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Spurm, what about an, "equal and opposite reaction"?
I'm not a relative or a friend...this guy needs to be smoked.
him getting a chance to rehabilitate...he murdered a man for absolutely no reason and ruined the life of that man's family....you want to be sensitive to someone be sensitive to the pain and anguish they will go through for the rest of their lives over this heads actions.
I can just imagine the warm feeling his family would get stopping by the jail to see old Troy kicked bakc in the cot reading a book and talking about how he didn't get a fair trial...
How about the fact that he didn't give the man he murdered a chance to see his kids grow up....
13 dollars? I'm sure the guy would have probably given him the 13 dollars to keep from being shot in the head.
This er was a joy killer. It's not real hard to live life without killing someone...you have to actively be wanting to do it in most cases...forget vengeance...what has this man done to deserve the chance to be a party of society or have society pay for his life..
Smoke this reject.
Spurm, what about an, "equal and opposite reaction"?
Hang 'em high.
How about the notion that if life is so precious we must protect it broadly at conception, then we should also be so inclined in other situations?
I don't follow...Spurm, what about an, "equal and opposite reaction"?
Waits for MB's gleeful reponse saying he's ignoring me and that my post agreeing with his is crap]
Punishment that suits the crime. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.
"The first soap was made from the ashes of heroes, like the first monkey shot into space. Without pain, without sacrifice, we would have nothing."
Um this guy is a good argument for abortion as well as the death penalty. Some people have no business being parents and his parents sound like a prime example of that.
So perhaps if people weren't religiously guilt tripped into having and raising children they are incapable of caring for this sort of thing would happen less often.
Well, as one who is against Capital Punishment, I would respond by saying "Two Wrongs Don't Make a Right."Punishment that suits the crime. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.
I understand what you are saying. I was looking at it from the point of, if convicted, that CP was the reaction for the crime. It was not a decision to be made be the justice system, it was the end of a series of events which began with the crime being commited. The justice system in this case, simply provides the reaction. This may not be applicable to other types of crimes.
He killed a man for absolutely no reason...he will be executed for doing that.
I don't see that as a case of 2 wrongs. I see that as a case of 1 wrong and 1 right.
I see that as a man guilty of the ultimate crime being eliminated from the gene pool and not being allowed to do so again. I see that as the government performing one of it's true functions...to protect the population. And hey, lots of guys in prison continue to be murderers because they have reached a point of no pentalty...some of those guys in prison deserve better than to be locked up with a guy who would murder someone for 13 dollars.
Sure whottt, but there is a "moral" objection to the death penalty, as well as what I would call a "political" one. The moral one is basically what I outlined and of course is somewhat reliant on faith. The political one is somewhat basic: do we want to give the government the power to kill its own citizens?
Gene pool? What does this have to do with his genes?
The government doesn't kill it's own people...people kill it's own people. Thats why they have jurys.
Kind of an "eye for an eye" argument. It's tricky, though -- if you throw in all the other Christian trains of thought like redemption and forgiveness. Are these things even truly possible with a guy like this? If so, the only thing we can really hang our hats on is vengeance and punishment in regards to CP. If not, I guess we don't kill enough people then.
Which body enforces that judgment? Which body sets the scale and scope of potential punishment?The government doesn't kill it's own people...people kill it's own people. Thats why they have jurys.
Which can also be accomplished by locking him up, and giving him the opportunity to CHOOSE not to do so again.I see that as a man guilty of the ultimate crime being eliminated from the gene pool and not being allowed to do so again.
Also accomplished by locking him up.I see that as the government performing one of it's true functions...to protect the population.
Well, if they're on Death Row they have reached that point... But not if they have a chance of parole, or a better cell, or (if I had my way) avoiding (edit) corporal punishment...And hey, lots of guys in prison continue to be murderers because they have reached a point of no pentalty
Yes, but it's not a natural reaction. The government steps in, separates the criminal from the society and does what it can to reform the criminal... or keep him away from society forever.I was looking at it from the point of, if convicted, that CP was the reaction for the crime. It was not a decision to be made be the justice system, it was the end of a series of events which began with the crime being commited. The justice system in this case, simply provides the reaction.
They enforce the judgment...but they don't judge. That's for a jury to do.
The government has to facilitate the jury's decision. Otherwise, we have Salem.
Doesn't matter. The government certainly directly kills citizens.
Darwinism at it's finest, the reason your skin tone allows you to survive in hot environemnts better than mine...because he was caught at 18 he won't live to pass on his ed up genes or the biocultural, abusive, non respect for other living things evolution his parents passed on to him.
LMAO this debate is a perfect example of why I have never totally embraced one party over the other...
On the one hand you have the right...pro-life...yet they are also pro death penalty, and most will fight wars like there is no tomorrow.
On the otherhand you have the left...pro-choice, yet raise over people killing animals, and forgive murderers.
Ahh the contradiction...but even worse I see an almost homicidal linear quality to my feelings on these issues...but hey, consistency should count for something.
Why would it not be a natural reaction? What if some one who murders a person is sent to jail and kills a guard? Should he be put to death then?
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