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yall mad cuz kobe is the best player in the NBA...... stop making stupid ass threads to discredit him.......
What a bunch of haters. If he's shooting over 50% it's not ball hogging. Whos he gonna pass to? Lamar Odom, a 46% shooter? And it only goes downhill from there.
yall mad cuz kobe is the best player in the NBA...... stop making stupid ass threads to discredit him.......
And one last thing, Tim Duncan, back in 2003, put up 34 shots and ended up with 41 (or was it 47?) points. Point is, he didn't get 50.
The whole "The only thing that matters is championships" argument is so ing played out and cliche. Can't you people think of your own catch lines rather than just regurgitating what some other clown you saw on TV said?
Championships are important. We get it. I'm sure most players have the dream to win a championship, but only one team wins a year. Winning championships aren't the only reason people like basketball -- people also like basketball because it's fun sport to play and watch. Spectacular team performances are fun to see. Witness individual accomplishments are fun to see as well. Watching an player so skilled at his sport is amazing, especially when that player's team is winning as well.
If this doesn't impress you, do yourself a favor and turn off your TV until June.
im am sorry, but lebomb, you are just being ignant for trying to pretend what he is doing isnt impressive. Only one other player has done what he has done and that was a guy who averaged 50 for a season. They are 4 and 0 during this streak, what else is there. You guys have no argument, and your just trying your hardest to be haters. I dont like Kobe that much myself, but as a basketball fan, realize that this historical accomplishment is something I will tell my kids about one day. Either you are just hardcore Spur homers, or dont know about basketball, but either way you are coming off like an idiot
Dallas 12/20/2005 - 62 points
Houston 12/15/06 - 53 points
Phoenix (I include them, they're one of the best teams) - 04/07/06 - 51 points
Anyway, Duncan has scored 50+ points before and the Spurs lost (to the Mavs)...Dirk has scored 50+ points before and the Mavs lost (to the Warriors). As long as Kobe's winning those games, go for it! Plus, it's not just the points, some of his angles on the shots are ridiculous.
It's disappointing to me to hear (or read) anyone who purports to be a basketball fan blasting this sort of a performance by a player.
I thought the Jordan reference earlier in this thread was quite apt. When Jordan didn't have very good teammates, he had to score the ball for his team to win. It didn't really matter what Michael did, because his teammates just weren't very good -- when he made them better, that team still wasn't going anywhere. That wasn't a reflection on Michael; it was the truth. What was a reflection on Michael was his singular ability to lift those bad teams into the playoffs by playing the role of a single-minded scorer. He had to score for his teams to even have a chance, and opposing teams knew that, but Michael scored anyway. It's part of what made Michael Jordan great.
It's also part of what made Michael Jordan a champion. When the quality of his teammates improved, Michael remained the guy who was a threat to drop 50 on an opponent any night. That made opposing teams honor his ability with their defenses (e.g., the Jordan Rules) but as the quality of his teammates improved, Michael could exploit that by doing things to make his teammates better and having them actually succeed, which didn't happen sooner because of the lack of talent around him.
I'm not suggesting that the Lakers are on the cusp of the Bulls-like run, but I do think that Kobe is very much in a situation like Jordan was in the mid-80's. They were better earlier this year, but their injuries and the great attention that teams are playing to them now exploits just how thin that roster was at the beginning of the season. If the Lakers are going to win games, Kobe has to be the show. And he's shouldered that load in a way that has actually been beneficial to the team.
Should Kobe pass up shots just to be sure that some anonymous hater on the internets can't dispute that he's a team player? Absolutely not. The name of the game is winning and with Kobe's heroics, the Lakers are doing just that.
It's a wonderful performance to watch. Respect it. Don't hate him for it.
This Lebomb character is pure venomous hate.....
No one in 40+ years have went on a scoring binge like Kobe....and he throws trash, like...oh if any player attempts 30 shots a game they all score 50+....what a tool. In the last 40 years with all of the games, different styles, players, coaches, and media attention...why hasn't anyone duplicated this feat. Look Wilt's records will stand the test of time, different league and different players...only Kobe has approached these records...no one else. Respect....or stop watching the NBA.
Nobody's asking you.
I agree with Lebomb. Basketball is meant to be a team game. Something Kobe can't seem to do. He has to resort to hogging to get wins. Dirk Nowitzki is the opposite of Kobe as he lets his teammates get their confidence up and if they need him to come up big late in games he'll be there. He's not a ball stopper though.
You have no idea about what you are talking about.
Did you watch the NBA Finals last year? 2005 WCSF?
I like Dirk and all and probably want him to win MVP, but what you're saying is crap.
You trying to talk Kobes teamates up is like Spurs fans trying to talk Dirks team down, you havent seen any games. If Dirk was on this Lakers team he would be taking all the shots as well. Kobe doesnt have anyone on his team that can be a scorer, maybe Lamar but not even him. I watvhed the game last night, and when Kobe decided to start passing, his teamates kept missing wide open shots when he passed to them , and the Hornets got back in the game untill Kobe took over a game. I dont understand how people can hate on this guy when theyve won 4 straight, just going out of your way to hate
You're right. Kobe should share the ball and the Lakers should just accept the losses that come with that. Never mind doing whatever you can to win the game -- that's so passe.
So you missed when Kobe was passing the ball, getting assists, and they were still losing?
Yeah Dirk makes his teammates better, it's not like they have talent and work hard to improve their skills. It's all Dirks doing. Howard, Terry, Stackhouse, Harris, would all be bums without him.
Kobe was involving his teammates all year round...it's lately that he's taken it upon (under direction of Phil) to get off early. The Lakers were falling behind in the standings and were at risk to slip to 9th. These last 4 games are historical scoring outbursts not seen in 40+ years. Give him his props....as long as they win, who cares. Also, it's no secret that since Odom and Walton returned this is the result....when they were out, he wasn't scoring like mad.
It's a double edged sword. If you point to the fact Kobe has won 3 rings on a finely constructed team while coming up big in the playoffs, you'll attribute all the success to Shaq. If Kobe takes over a game and wins, he's not playing a team game.
By the way, like Ive said, he is a SHOOTING GUARD, its his job to shoot. And by the way, he is still averaging 5 and a half assists and 6 rebounds a game this year.
Like I said before...people see what they want to see. I have been pissed when kobe chucks 25 shots and makes 9 or 10...it pisses me off. But when the man hits 50% you feed the hot hand. Usually in a game the hot hand is fed until it's out...but it's been 4 games...no difference, his team is feeding the hot hand. They are still injured, they have no bench, Mo evans, radman and cook are all out right now.
Keep thinking that Suns fan. Lakers will win another one before the Suns win their first one.
Did you really watch the game? Yes he does hog the ball, but he does pass it. I know you hate anything Laker, but at least recognize that he does pass the ball, and sets up his teammates for scoring chances.Once you get past the fact that he won't pass the ball, it's kind of impressive to watch in action because he is nailing some difficult jumpers out there. Then you also realize that he has to pass the ball to Shammond Williams, Smush Parker, and Kwame Brown... haha.
Tyson's game was impressive, but it has more to do with the Lakers weak defense and rebounding than it was Tyson dominating.Most impressive last night was Tyson Chandler's 20-20 game - he played incredible last night and it was really fun to watch a guy genuinely love the game and want his team to win - it was the complete opposite of Kobe's performance.
As for knowing that Kobe doesn't "genuinely love the game and want his team to win", I would like to know how you know this. What great insight has lead you to this realization? Do you know Kobe personally? Are you some type of Shaman? I'm interested in knowing how you know so much about the inner workings and thoughts of basketball players. Share with us your great insight Ron.
This is your opinion. Don't try to talk about it like it's a fact.
Its no wonder other temas fans hate Spur fans when trash like this gets posted. By the way, one of the top 10 worst threads of the year
mavsfan1000 do us all a favor.... take yourself, your dirk nowitzki blow up doll, your re ed down syndrome girlfriend ponky, your dallas mavericks 2006 western conference champs t shirt and learn something about basketball before you post again........
DarrinS avatar is perfect.
I honestly think it's Ron Burgundy talking whenever I read his posts.
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