When did the West get inhabited by a bunch of Pussies?

[whottt]

I never said that. I said that America is in a vulnerable position due to ing dumbasses like you and W. that continue to push troops into a stupid war.

We are weak. Because of people like you.

No, we're weak because we a bunch of anti-war idiots that think this is Vietnam....

That protest our own soldiers...our volunteer soldiers, that are still volunteering...



Oh I agree the admin has weakened...but their weakness was giving a what Americans like you think...over the ones that put him back in office.

Just goes to show, the biggest whining always gets the most attention.

[whottt]

And by the way...

Strap yourselves in...because if you don't think we are going into conflict with Iran...you are an idiot.

It's always been planned to take Iran down...


The alliances they've made...the political pressure they've created. The strategic infrastructure they have created...


How many friends do you think Iran has?

I guess they've got Syria...


Idiots...no one thought we'd just waltz into Iran...


Well...I take that back, our liberal idiots that kept asking why we didn't go into Iran first thought that.


They can't seem to decide if they think Bush is a whimpering pussy or an apocalypic madman aspiring to Hitlerism.


ing morons.



Go protest our volunteer military(that is still volunteering), and draw Vietnam parallels(just let me know when you find a ing jungle)...it's what you do best.

[ggoose25]

No, we're weak because we a bunch of anti-war idiots that think this is Vietnam....

That protest our own soldiers...our volunteer soldiers, that are still volunteering...



Oh I agree the admin has weakened...but their weakness was giving a what Americans like you think...over the ones that put him back in office.

Just goes to show, the biggest whining always gets the most attention.

Bush gives a about protesters? since when?


And you're right. I think if you created one of those polls you love you'd find that you are the ultimate whining of STand therefore receive the most attention.

[ggoose25]

And by the way...

Strap yourselves in...because if you don't think we are going into conflict with Iran...you are an idiot.

It's always been planned to take Iran down...


The alliances they've made...the political pressure they've created.


How many friends do you think Iran has?

I guess they've got Syria...

we shouldve gone to war with iran in the first place. instead of ing around in iraq for nonexistant WMD. Yet again, another Bush up

[whottt]

Notice how on the one hand we're weak and getting ass ed...

Then when the nuke card gets pulled all of a sudden we're brutal madmen again.


In case you can't tell 101A...they're only happy when they think America is going to lose or is getting beaten....they celebrate it and talk about how weak we are and laugh about us getting our ass kicked...then when we take off the gloves they talk about how brutal and murderous we are.


They are ing hysterical morons, who time and time again prove their bias...

[George Gervin's Afro]

Notice how on the one hand we're weak and getting ass ed...

Then when the nuke card gets pulled all of a sudden we're brutal madmen again.


In case you can't tell 101A...they're only happy when they think America is going to lose or is getting beaten....they celebrate it and talk about how weak we are and laugh about us getting our ass kicked...then when we take off the gloves they talk about how brutal and murderous we are.


They are ing hysterical morons, who time and time again prove their bias...

In case you can't tell 101A...they're only happy when they think America is going to lose or is getting beaten....

Can you provide anything that remotely backs this claim up? Anything that states dems cheer when we lose etc.?

[whottt]

we shouldve gone to war with iran in the first place. instead of ing around in iraq for nonexistant WMD. Yet again, another Bush up

First of all idiot...Iran violated no cease fire agreement with us...like Iraq did.

Saddam = violated cease fire...

Iran = did not






SO tell me idiot...

Do you honestly think we are in a worse position for war with Iran now than we were prior to invading Iraq?

Is that what you think...idiot?

[ggoose25]

Dont pigeonhole me into anything. America needs to be strong. theres nothing wrong with going to war if its necessary. Iraq was just the least necessary war of all time. It has done nothing to strengthen our country, and everything to weaken it.

For you its cut and dry: liberals hate a strong america, hate war, are tree huggers and conservatives love america, fight everyone, and pollute whenever they goddamn please.

Dont you ing lump me into anything with your sweeping generalizations. Just because I say Iraq is an ultimate up, doesnt mean I'm against war, and that I recycle all day.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Dont pigeonhole me into anything. America needs to be strong. theres nothing wrong with going to war if its necessary. Iraq was just the least necessary war of all time. It has done nothing to strengthen our country, and everything to weaken it.

For you its cut and dry: liberals hate a strong america, hate war, are tree huggers and conservatives love america, fight everyone, and pollute whenever they goddamn please.

Dont you ing lump me into anything with your sweeping generalizations. Just because I say Iraq is an ultimate up, doesnt mean I'm against war, and that I recycle all day.

Hey Goose people like whott have to make broad, blanket generalizations because that is the only way they can justify any disagreement with Bush.. ie. 'Dems are happy when we lose', 'libs think the USA is evil..' etc..

[smeagol]

Looks like all is about to break loose in the ME.

[whottt]

Iran only has an army of 8 million people or so...

I'm sure they just figured they'd charge right in there through the Persian Gulf or something.


WHy do you guys expect anyone with intelligence to full on announce their plan?



I look at the Mid-East Map and if there is one country I would least like to be...it's Iran.


The Saudis hate them.
The Israelis hate them.
The USA hates them.
And Europe is about fed up with them.




One day...a liberal is going to look at a map of the middle east...see where our military and logistical support is now, in relation to Iran, compared to where it wasn't prior to Iraq....

Lebanon has no infrastructure for Iran to attack Israel though. The pulled out of the settlement that weakened their defensive ability.

Iraq and Afghanistan have no military infrastructure other than what is controlled by the US or Nato.




I am asking you guys...what can Iran do?


They can't get to Israel...

If they go into Iraq....well, it'll all be over quick then...everyone will allign against them. Particularly the other mid-eastern countries.

They can go into Afghanistan all they want...all that's there is the UN and Nato..


There's just no place for them to go.

Every means of outside support they have can be cut off by the US via air in a matter of hours...add in Israel's might Airforce.


I mean you guys are idiots if you don't see the position Iran is in....they better have nukes...that's all I got to say for them.


Put it this way...at the very least, the US is in positin to enforce the mother of all sanctions against them.


Iran is ed...you gotta be a huge pussy to consider them the favorite here. Air Warfare rules.

[whottt]

Can you provide anything that remotely backs this claim up? Anything that states dems cheer when we lose etc.?

Sure, do a search in this forum...type in Iraq. Read.


Period...you guys hate Bush more than you like America. You are owned.



And just plain old sellouts.

Sold
Out

To the court of world opinion....well, world government opinion, and their useful idiots(your international siblings).

[whottt]

Looks like all is about to break loose in the ME.

If by Middle East you mean Iran...it probably won't be that big of a deal.


They'll go down faster than a Spurstalk Lib on Usama.



They've got no allies to support them in a war and I mean you want to talk about the potential for some crippling sanctions...they aren't even popular in their own country...much less the other mid-eastern countries like Saudi and Jordan.


They just don't have a very bright future....they better have nukes, that's all I am saying.

[Oh, Gee!!]

they better have nukes, that's all I am saying.

Uh-oh, tough guy alert.

[DarkReign]

I own you because I said so....proof, intelligence, decency be damned.

I dont think I have met a person to declare himself the winner more than whott. Most things of either winning or losing are either a) guided by rules or b) judged objectively by people outside the participants.

Not so in whotts world, Spurs would win every game just because he said they did. Youre an amusement at best, whott.

[whottt]

I own you because I said so....proof, intelligence, decency be damned.

Link to where I said I owned you in this thread? Or are you just hijacking on general principles?

Mr. Proof, Intelligence and Decency?

By the way...now, I do own you. The proof is your tripping over your own reading INcomprehension.

And yes I know what you meant...you just can't read.

I dont think I have met a person to declare himself the winner more than whott.

I agree....it gets tedious. But the simple fact is most liberals have weak historical knowledge and tend to rely on newsblurbs and propaganda as their backing.

It's not hard to win...nor is it particularly rewarding....you can't cure stupidity.

Most things of either winning or losing are either a) guided by rules or b) judged objectively by people outside the participants.

Who died and left you god?

Not so in whotts world, Spurs would win every game just because he said they did. Youre an amusement at best, whott.

And you are clueless at best.

[whottt]

Uh-oh, tough guy alert.

Idiot alert

[101A]

Damn Whott, just damn.

And anybody who doesn't think there are plenty on the left in this country who have MUCH riding on the U,S. pulling out (and therefore losing) in Iraq, are simply deluding themselves.

When have you ever had a politician say, "Boy, I'm damn glad I was wrong about that!" Well, just about never. There are SO MANY pundits, celebs, politicians, etc...who are ON RECORD as having said that Iraq is "impossible", "unwinnable", etc...that if it DOES turn, and that democratic government becomes capable of defending itself and its cons ution, there is going to be MUCH backtracking and equivocation - and politicians HATE that. Trust me, they'd rather we just lose.

[clambake]

Israel is paying for reconstruction of lebanon while Hezbollah is stronger and more popular than ever. They were looking for an out more than Hezbollah. All the rubble in the world couldn't buy them a victory. They were more than happy to pull back. A powerful military stuck in a stalemate equals failure. Mental cripple.

[smeagol]

Why were the 15 soldiers abducted in the first place?

I'm not advocating for a full scale attack on Iran, but these Iranians are damn idiots.

Don't they realize their actions will have consequences?

And what if somehing happens to the British soldiers during their "stay" in Iran?

Man, foreign policy is complicated . . .

[spurster]

Is Iran keeping hostages to avoid getting their nuclear facilities bombed? Is this a coincidence just after Russia is starting to get tough on Iran>

[whottt]

Why were the 15 soldiers abducted in the first place?

Either to try and get info or in retalliation for their key personnel that have been mysteriously disappearing.


And because thier President is good at taking hostages...

I'm not advocating for a full scale attack on Iran, but these Iranians are damn idiots.

Don't they realize their actions will have consequences?

Oh they already realize it...this is an act of desperation...hostage taking always is.

They don't like those sanctions about to be imposed, they don't like that they suddenly have no allies and are surrounded by the most powerful military in the world on just about all sides.

And what if somehing happens to the British soldiers during their "stay" in Iran?

Man, foreign policy is complicated . . .

I don't know why suddenly everyone seems to think the British are wimps...

You can question their bloodthirst all you want...but they aren't wimps, they are tremendously prideful.
(and BTW, these comments aren't directed at you smeagol)

If push comes to shove the British will take action for no other reason than to not do so would erode their status as a world leader, and a potential EU leader, something very important to them, in fact it was so important to them that they helped us in Iraq priamarily for that reason. And now people think they'll let that go because some of their own soldiers were taken hostage?

You can alway count on the British to do just about anything to confirm their own belief that they are one of the most important and powerful countries in the world.

[whottt]

Israel is paying for reconstruction of lebanon while Hezbollah is stronger and more popular than ever. They were looking for an out more than Hezbollah. All the rubble in the world couldn't buy them a victory. They were more than happy to pull back. A powerful military stuck in a stalemate equals failure. Mental cripple.

Where would you rather live?

Choose your answer wisely... sucker.


We already know that you consider Iraq victorious in their war with the US....which makes you an idiot.

[ggoose25]

First of all idiot...Iran violated no cease fire agreement with us...like Iraq did.

Saddam = violated cease fire...

Iran = did not

SO tell me idiot...

Do you honestly think we are in a worse position for war with Iran now than we were prior to invading Iraq?

Is that what you think...idiot?

Who cares about a cease fire agreement? does a cease fire agreement = WMD present? cause that is sure how bush sold the war to everyone.

And you ing idiot... Iran has been and continues to be the #1 financier of terrorism across the globe. Its been that way even before 9/11. But do we go after the $$$, the thing that is ultimately responsible for terrorism. NO. We invent intelligence to go after Iraq, when we shouldve been finding a way to cut the money that finances the global jihad against us.

and yes we are in a worse position. less money, less equipment, less military reserve to wage a full out war with Iran. and less public support. who gives the about geographical position. you really are ing useless at life. and you are responsible for making this country weak

[ChumpDumper]

Looks like all is about to break loose in the ME.

Actually it kinda looks like both sides are doing some last-minute posturing before coming back to the negotiating table. Iran really doesn't have a choice now that Russia and China are turning on it.