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    yeah he hates em so much, he used em to beat the Nets in 03.

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    PopCIA, bless his wineswilling heart, what are the rabbits-in-his-hat this playoff season?

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    Well if all goes right for my team we are going to force the spurs into small ball tonite.

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    so if he trots that out there with Duncan, Elson, and Ginobili, is everyone gonna have a hissy fit like they are now?


    Christ...

    No..I'd love to see that line up against the Mavs.


    I also am intrigued by a Parker, Vaughn, Bowen, Elson and Duncan lineup...to me that's the best defensive lineup the Spurs can have against the Mavs..and it isn't small ball.


    Pop says he's going to try a bunch of thing...but if we're in the final minute and have a 2 or 3 point lead...I am going to go ape if the Finley PF lineup is on the court...

    Because they'll get us on the rebounds and post us up at their leisure. Like they did in 8 of our 4 losses last year.

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    I love how manu homers spin that
    if tp did that they would have been thousands of trade tp threads
    Curious how little Tony homers have to say about Game 6. You know, the game where Manu and Fin basically bailed Tony out of a nightmare performance?

    Why do we continually rehash ancient history on here?

    People bring up one dumb Manu play over and over but ignore all that he's done before. Manu has had many heroic playoff perfomances for the Spurs. When exactly was Tony's big, breakout performance? When did that happen? I must have missed it.

    Tim and Manu are the two guys on this roster who have immunity for life, period.

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    so if he trots that out there with Duncan, Elson, and Ginobili, is everyone gonna have a hissy fit like they are now?


    Christ...
    Playing two PGs with Tim and Frankie is way different than playing it with smallball. I don't like the two PG lineup, but if it must be done, I'd prefer it with the bigs.

    And if smallball must be done, I prefer it sans Bowen.

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    When exactly was Tony's big, breakout performance? When did that happen? I must have missed it.
    I guess you miss a lot of games then.

    Both sides in the Manu/Tony wars are losers.

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    Well lets say elson gets in foul trouble.

    Do you feel comfortable with Oberto on Nowitzki?


    If Horry is healthy ENOUGH, sure you put him on him.


    But if Elson gets dumb fouls, then going big isn't an option.

    I thought Fab did a pretty decent job on Dirk the last time we played. Dirk had to hit some really tough shots. Fab was having a good game that day and Pop made a big mistake not using him more.

    And the game was tied with six minutes to go, Pop switched to smallball for the last six minutes (Tony, Manu, Bruce and Time with first Fin, then Brent)and we lost by five. It was a dumb decision. If you feel you have to play small, then at least take Bruce out.

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    Problem is DeBusschere was closer to 6-foot-7 and averaged like 12 boards per game. If Finley, Barry or Bowen averaged 12 boards per game, I'd be all for small ball. But they don't average half of that combined.

    Plus Walt Frazier was one of the best rebounding point guards of all-time.

    Close though, but I'd list DeBusschere more as more of a small forward who could steal minutes at power forward due to his rebounding.
    I inadvertently reversed Bradley's and DeBusschere's heights. DeBusschere was 6'6" 235 in has last 5 years in the NBA with the Knicks. I got to watch a lot of the Knicks' games back then. DeBusschere was the Knicks' Bruce Bowen. He was a premier defender with a nose for the ball. He was basically a SF who could out-rebound even Willis Reed. There were more 10+ rpg guys back then...not quite double what there are nowadays. Bill Bradley was very similar to what Mike Finley is today. Great at curling off screens and excellent catch and shoot scorer. He was 6'5" but he could score at all points on the floor.

    Anyways, the Knicks of 1970 and '73 had some similarities to the Spurs, except they were a better rebounding team. They predicated their success on Team Defense. They weren't a very tall team but they had some great outside scorers, as well as some guys who could create.

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    When exactly was Tony's big, breakout performance? When did that happen? I must have missed it.
    Hmm I think of game 3 of the NBA Finals where Parker schooled Jason Kidd, and won the game for them.

    But your not a Tony hater though

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    was that the same finals that he got benched for speedy in games 5 and 6 or a different finals?

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    dude tp was finals mvp after 4 games

    nets changed everything to stop him and he was very young then

    speedy is soooooooooooooooo overrated

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    You're devolving into self parody at this point.

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    was that the same finals that he got benched for speedy in games 5 and 6 or a different finals?
    He had 35 last game, what the are you talking about? How could anyone that claims to be a fan of this team hate one of the best parts? Its re ed to love one player on a team so much that it blinds you to the greatness of the other players

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    Man, enough with the re-hashing of crap from years ago just to talk crap to each other. It's almost time for the Spurs to start the playoffs. Spurs fans need stop ing at each at each other and get ready to start ing at Lakers/Suns/Mavs/Pistons fans on the road to a Championship.

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    Curious how little Tony homers have to say about Game 6. You know, the game where Manu and Fin basically bailed Tony out of a nightmare performance?

    Why do we continually rehash ancient history on here?

    People bring up one dumb Manu play over and over but ignore all that he's done before. Manu has had many heroic playoff perfomances for the Spurs. When exactly was Tony's big, breakout performance? When did that happen? I must have missed it.

    Tim and Manu are the two guys on this roster who have immunity for life, period.

    tony played well last year in playoffs when he was healthy
    against mavs he was not healthy


    manu against pistons sucked ass shooting on the road

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    dude tp was finals mvp after 4 games

    nets changed everything to stop him and he was very young then

    speedy is soooooooooooooooo overrated
    By change everything you mean "make him shoot the ball."


    Thankfully Tony's game has improved a lot since those days.

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    By change everything you mean "make him shoot the ball."


    Thankfully Tony's game has improved a lot since those days.
    no kidding

    the point guard is the hardest postion to learn
    tony's jumper >>>>>>>>>>aj jumper

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    Man, enough with the re-hashing of crap from years ago just to talk crap to each other. It's almost time for the Spurs to start the playoffs. Spurs fans need stop ing at each at each other and get ready to start ing at Lakers/Suns/Mavs/Pistons fans on the road to a Championship.
    I agree I am putting
    aaronstampler on my IGNORE list

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    The more I think about '03 the more I realize it was like a miracle that team won. They were so flawed. Tony was young, Manu was just a rookie and was running around like a chicken with his head cut off most of the time, Robinson was practically an invalid and S-Jax was giving me a heart attack every night.

    The team absolutely peaked in the playoffs against LA and kind of just hung on against Dallas with no Dirk and a flawed NJ team that couldn't throw it in the ocean. That was a weak year. I think both the '04 and '06 teams were better and the '05 team were WAY better. Basically all we had going for us in '03 was Tim at his absolute peak and maybe Malik too. But that was a lucky team.

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    The more I think about '03 the more I realize it was like a miracle that team won. They were so flawed. Tony was young, Manu was just a rookie and was running around like a chicken with his head cut off most of the time, Robinson was practically an invalid and S-Jax was giving me a heart attack every night.

    The team absolutely peaked in the playoffs against LA and kind of just hung on against Dallas with no Dirk and a flawed NJ team that couldn't throw it in the ocean. That was a weak year. I think both the '04 and '06 teams were better and the '05 team were WAY better. Basically all we had going for us in '03 was Tim at his absolute peak and maybe Malik too. But that was a lucky team.

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    I agree I am putting
    aaronstampler on my IGNORE list
    I was talking to you too. Not just aaron.

    Actually I wasn't talking to either of you particularly, just in general, it's time for Spurs fans to band together and stop bickering.

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    The more I think about '03 the more I realize it was like a miracle that team won. They were so flawed. Tony was young, Manu was just a rookie and was running around like a chicken with his head cut off most of the time, Robinson was practically an invalid and S-Jax was giving me a heart attack every night.

    The team absolutely peaked in the playoffs against LA and kind of just hung on against Dallas with no Dirk and a flawed NJ team that couldn't throw it in the ocean. That was a weak year. I think both the '04 and '06 teams were better and the '05 team were WAY better. Basically all we had going for us in '03 was Tim at his absolute peak and maybe Malik too. But that was a lucky team.
    Yeah I think it was my favorite le team even though it wasn't the most talented. But all three of the les were a great ride.

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    I'm getting more than a little tired of people bring up the foul in game 7 constantly.

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    Robinson was practically an invalid


    If Robinson was an invalid, what do you call the centers the Spurs have had since then?

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