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UA didn't pass on Turgeon, he pulled his name from consideration because he wanted to be at A&M.
Turgeon is much better than Pelphrey and was A&M's #1 choice while Pelphrey was UA's 792nd option.
As to ATM hiring Turgeon all I can say is good luck. I'm glad UA passed up for Pelphrey at the least even though both haven't proven with a major either. In reality now, I would like a series with AnM like old time. You guys used to take beatings at Barnhill like champs. A new series would be nice with two first time coaches ya know.
UA didn't pass on Turgeon, he pulled his name from consideration because he wanted to be at A&M.
Turgeon is much better than Pelphrey and was A&M's #1 choice while Pelphrey was UA's 792nd option.
i think its funny, all this talk about Turgeon...dude is a great coach. is he as good as Gillispie?...no. but he's a damn fine coach and he has a lot of talent to work with next year.
...sweet 16, at least.
He has yet to prove himself to be great. He did a good job at WSU, breathed life back into the program. But he never made an MVC final, only made one NCAA tournament, and his best season was bookended by heading two teams that enjoyed massive meltdowns in the second half of the season (Sean Sutton style...).
If he achieves greatness, it will be at A&M, because he's not there yet...
I guess I saw fake pictures of him cutting down nets for an MVC championship, then...
Yeah, ok, pal.
(1) CaptMike deserves everything he gets on this board, and there's plenty on this board that give him .
(2) So we can talk about "eras" of basketball when teams like Kansas and Kentucky racked up Final 4 appearences against no compe ion in the 40s and 50s, but not when it comes to coaching loyalty? I'll remember that.
haha, aggie fans will tout anyone they got in there. If they hired Bob Hill they would be touting his record season of 1995 with the Spurs
jeffdrums invades the college sports forum!
no, we can consider different eras when speaking about different subjects. the way coaches are hired and how their contracts are honored or broken have changed quite a bit since most of the coaches on your list were hired. everyone deserves to get on a board, but making the same stupid post after every one of his posts has become tiresome over, say, well, the last 7 months.
He won 1 regular season le (and they cut down the nets following that game). In 7 years, he never made it past the semi-finals of the MVC tourney. If there are pictures of him even coaching in an MVC final game, they have been photoshopped.
No, he didn't buddy. He even freaking tried to interview for the job dude. Lay off the smoke. Him, Mike Anderson and Sutton all spoke to the search firm and gave a phone interview before an offer to visit.
Turg isn't better than , they both came from schools and haven't proven... .
Tired of replying to ignorant crap in this forum, captmike and a couple others seem to be the only ones with a head screwed on forward on their shoulders.
Just doin' what I can to make the world a more factual place to live in.
MVC basketball has been very compe ive in recent history. The MVC sent as many teams to the tournament (four) last year, as the B12 did this year.
Very true, and can't take anything away from them. However, it must be noted that the MVC hired a numeroligist to 'break' the NCAA's RPI system and find out how to rank themselves higher last year. I'm in no way saying that their teams got in but didn't deserve it, I'm just saying that last year, they made schedules that were purposely geared to make themselves look more appealing to the selection committee in regards to RPI numbers. So much so that the NCAA made 'secretive' changes to its own formula for this year that dealt with some of the advantages that it perceived the MVC was getting.
maybe they'll break out a ouija board next season
Make no mistake, the MVC is quality basketball. And Turgeon had a decent run in the league. He will be missed here in Wichita.
But while I think everybody would agree that he has done a good job with the Shockers, I don't know if anybody can really say that he has done a great job.
Altman, Lowery, and arguably Les have all done a better job with their Valley programs. And McDermott might have been the best of the group before taking the ISU job last year.
Turgeon certainly brings some good things to the table, I'm just a little skeptical of this one for the aggies for the following reasons:
1) He made the tournament once in 7 years. That's solid, but not spectacular.
2) He had two other teams that were locks for the tournament and completely collapsed down the stretch.
3) In terms of fan support, administrative support, facilities, tradition, and proximity to a recruiting base, no other team in the conference could match the combination at WSU. Wichita State SHOULD be competing for Valley les every year.
4) He hasn't recruited worth a damn in 3 years. The last 2 recruiting classes have produced a back-up PG and that's about it. He got out while the getting was good because WSU is looking at fairly bare cupboard within 2 years.
Uh, yes he did withdrawl from consideration - here's the link:
Now who needs to screw their head onto their shoulders?According to a source, the tentative schedule is for Turgeon to see the campus before returning to Wichita State to meet his team and inform them of his decision. He would then be introduced as Billy Gillispie's replacement at a Tuesday press conference back in College Station, this after spending Sunday in contact with both A&M and Arkansas.
According to a source, Turgeon actually pulled out of the Arkansas search Sunday to seriously pursue A&M's opening. Arkansas ultimately turned to South Alabama's John Pelphrey, who accepted an offer and will be introduced as the Hogs' next coach Monday afternoon.
According to a sourceArkansas fires Heap; eyeing Gillispie
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According to sources within the University of Arkansas athletics program, men's basketball coach Stan Heap was fired Monday, FOXSports.com's Jeff Goodman reported.
Texas A&M coach Billy Gillispie, according to sources, is front runner to replace Heath at Arkansas.
Gillispie has led Texas A&M to a 70-26 record over the past three seasons. The Aggies reached the second round of the NCAA tournament last year and were eliminated in the Sweet 16 this season.
In five seasons at Arkansas, Heath has led the Razorbacks to an 82-71 record. His team reached NCAA tournament last two seasons, losing in the first round both years.
Haahaha - such is the state of your stupidity.
CaptMike, mine was from CBS that doesn't BS when it comes to sources.
All of us know that FoxSports will report anything off a message board as a "source" whether it be BCG to Arky or Barnes to UK, they have no sources.
CBS, like ESPN, generally have something more concrete if they are going to print it.
so you make a baseless, irrelevant correlation between the state of coaching in the NCAA now vs what it was even 10 years ago and final 4 appearances by kansas and kentucky in the whiteout era, and i'm the one that's stupid? niiiice. i expected something more from someone who used "pithy" in proper context.
No, basically that you're sticking up for CaptMike.
Such is the state of your sexual relationship together.
i'm not sticking up for CaptMike, i'm just tired of reading the drivel that follows every one of his posts. CaptMike and i have no history except arguing about baseball for the last 2 years.
However, you seem to attack me for posting "the same thing" even though he will post the same stuff 3 or 4 times in the same thread because he has no valid points to make.
Such is the state of the college forum (I hope you've noticed by now that I've been emulating his BS about the "state of Aggie basketball" from a page or two ago)...
ESPN, like any other news outlet, runs with "sources" then amends it later when something is officially released. "sources say" doesn't mean too much, especially when the source isn't named.
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