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I am interested in the Spurs getting a guy who can swing from the 3 to the 4, not the 2 to the 3. That's why I prefer Outlaw or someone of that nature.
I think Pietrus is as solid a defender as outlaw minus the blocks, better scorer and shooter, and unfortunatly for him he is -2 inches from what some people think we need.
I am interested in the Spurs getting a guy who can swing from the 3 to the 4, not the 2 to the 3. That's why I prefer Outlaw or someone of that nature.
Well, in the next 2 years or so, we'll have to replace Bowen, Fin, and Barry. So far, we have White, who has hit exactly two jumpers...THIS YEAR. I think we'll need at least two young wings, if not three of them.
Agree wholeheartedly with this post. The Spurs do have Barry, Finley, Bowen, and White to play the 2/3 spots until at least 2008....but the long 3/small ball 4 is something the Spurs are seriously lacking.
I suggested Outlaw a few months back and I guess Nocioni wouldn't be a bad option either....though he's not exactly athletic and the Spurs would have to S&T for him.
Travis Outlaw or Jeff Green. I will accept nothing less. You hearing me Pop, R.C., Sam?
EXACTLY. Pietrus is more athletic than anyone currently on the wing for us. Yeah, he's a 37% 3Pt shooter. o, Duncan effect...
It'd be nice to actually have a wing player besides Manu that doesn't wear adult diapers to start next season. And Pietrus >> White.
We need to bring in some youth on the wing. Sign Pietrus, AND get a long SF.
Do both of those and get rid of Beno (even if we have to bring Steve Smith out of retirement and trade for him, it would be an upgrade), and it's the perfect off-season.
So, it's their fault if Portland won't part with Travis? Okay
Jeff Green?Dude's a lotto pick. So who do you want to get rid of to get him? Manu, Tony, or Tim?
We've come a long way from Roberto Javtokas.
Spurs Need Brewer
Pietrus is a good defender and when he is focused he can become a lockdown defender. I believe playing with one of the worst defense in the league hurt his defensive mind. But with the spurs I am sure he would become a "French Bulldog" on defense. On the ofensive end I am not a big pietrus fan. His BB IQ is not very good. But if you give him some corner 3s he could be valuable. And finally he could challenge White in a dunk contest... Actually White would win but it could be fun.
IMO the big issue his that he can't stay healthy for long periods.
Why sign a young developmental player that plays exactly the same position as one of the Spurs' two other young developmental players? The Spurs have limited roster space, limited $$ (MLE), and bigger holes than the swing position.
White may not be as good, but would come at 1/5 the price and be a short-term deal.
The Spurs also still have Barry and Finley at that position, so having two developmental G/F not playing probably wouldn't be smart. And you're solution to dump Beno has one main effect....it leaves JV (or other old vet) as the only insurance behind Tony, and that's not smart either. The Spurs will have 3 PGs on next year's roster...book it.
And lastly the point about bigger needs. The Spurs don't have an answer for the "other" big next to Tim Duncan, will need to replace Horry (if Bonner isn't that guy), will need to find a long-term solution to PG, and of course will need to find that long 3/small ball 4....the Spurs should look to these more immediate needs before addressing a problem that shouldn't hit until '08...when they have cap space to do so.
Phat - Fin and Barry will be here for exactly one more season, each, and Bowen is only signed for one more season. I think "swing" is our position of need, in a MAJOR way, especially if Pop brings them along slowly like he is wont to do with newbies. Think of Outlaw as an Horry or Eric Williams replacement (since Ely will be leaving), if you must, that combo forward type. He's 6'9".
Ah, sarcasm, my woefully inept friend. Wow, you really are an imbecile. I can't say I missed you.So, it's their fault if Portland won't part with Travis? Okay
Jeff Green?
We've come a long way from Roberto Javtokas.
Ex, I'm all about signing Outlaw because I think he fits the long 3/small ball 4 need. I'm also aware that the Spurs will have a need for G/F types in '08 and if the cap situation allowed for it, I would love to sign Pietrus....I just don't see it logistically happening because of lack of $$ and roster spots.
Still, I see that it could happen if the Spurs answer the Long 3/Small 4 question in the draft....then again, they could also answer the future swingman question in the draft (Fernandez, Belinelli, Stuckey, Rush, Almond, Byars).
I think it's possible that the Spurs get one or the other, just not plausible that they get them both....that was AHFs argument. And given a choice between the two, I would take the player that is a more immediate need.
yeah and somebody should tell you that before to post, based on a famous translation by Extra-Stout ( clap clap, well done, at least someone has taken for granted your "asshole" translation ( if you excuse me to post so !),
you should be able, with you posting experience to verify the "SOURCE", and to realise, that some other poster have been before, correctly translating the thing !
come on, ARE YOU REALLY SERIOUS when you think french website would have written that ?
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Dobri.
Statistically speaking shooting 33.3% from downtown is like shooting 50% from 2 point range. Although 3 point shots sometimes ignite fast breaks so they would be slightly less valuable.
Why aren't some posters realistic about the possibilities? Reading some of their is like reading the infantile wailing of a three-year-old. I WANT (fill in blank here) and I want him now!
We CANT get a lottery pick guy and probably can't even get into the top 20 with what we could trade unless you want to get rid of Tim, Manu or Tony. But we can get a serviceable talent maybe, but don't be surprised if the #28 pick or one in the 2nd round turns out badly.
Because often their coveted draft picks don't really fill in the needs. It's like they think a good college player at 6'5" is going to be a great NBA player at the 3-4 because he has 'heart' or "a good basketball iq" or a "7' wingspan."
Nice rant, bill. Who are you talking to? I don't think anybody has overly unrealistic expectations. There aren't even people who pop up to say "Why don't we trade up to draft Kevin Durant?" Someone got upset because I posted Outlaw or Green or bust, but clearly I was joking. Proof? Read the general comments in the draft thread.
But you are wrong on some stuff. The Spurs clearly can trade up into the late teens or earlier in the 20s. The likelihood of doing so has been a topic of ongoing interest for months, often centered around one Luis Scola. You may have heard of him.
Nobody has any real illusions the Spurs can trade up to get Corey Brewer or someone like that. There is a lot of speculation about who may drop into a range where the Spurs might nab them. I'm not sure who would say those are worthless posts, but maybe you would. I suggest not reading them.
As it stands, and the Spurs keep and use their picks, they are looking at players like Alando Tucker, possibly Derrick Byars, Nick Fazekas, Arron Afflalo, and some others. Pretty much everyone understands this.
I don't even speak French. It's funny because somebody actually fell for it.
Sorry, not all of us are stupid enough to be able to decipher your vagina monologues.
At this moment our swing man rotation consists of:
Manu, age 30 in July
Bowen, 36 in June and only 1 year left on his deal
Finley, 34, probably here for only one more year
Barry, 35, only under contract for one more year
I guess the fact that our swing men are practically card carrying members of the AARP is lost on you. Maybe when the Mavs are blowing by those guys when they're playing at the offensive end it'll click for some of you.
We need some damn youth on the perimeter.
And how many long forwards do the Spurs have that are capable of playing the small ball 4? Try this formula...the number of players you mentioned above minus 4.
The age of Spurs guards is not lost on me, but what seems to be lost on you is the understanding that the Spurs have MORE IMMEDIATE needs and not all of their needs (to include "other" big to play alongside Duncan and future backup PG), can be solved in this off-season....not enough $$$ or roster spots.
All three players mentioned should be available with the early second round pick....for the late first rounder, I think there will be better talent based on the number of players that have already declared and are likely to declare. A future starter and/or key reserve should be found with one or both of the picks in this upcoming draft for the Spurs.
I think it's obvious we need a long SF, and that's priority one. That doesn't mean you can't pick up another wing along the way.
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