Crawford & Spurs' losses

[Phenomanul]

I agreed with you up until this re ed point. Remember back a few seasons when Duncan was out a good chunk of the season? I remember thinking we were doomed, but the boys in black stepped it up and went on a run that would make any fan proud.

The Spurs aren't as good without Tim as they are without him, but I'd never go so far as to say we aren't contenders with him riding the pine. Tim is not the whole team and to believe that undermines the skills of everyone else on the team. Likewise it implies that we are totally screwed when he starts to get too old to play.

It also depends on the level of compe ion... and when you factor that into the equation... one could say with a pretty good certainty that the Spurs can't beat the Mavs without Duncan on the floor.

Besides people seem to forget that in that particular game the game plan was geared through Duncan... What, he had like 6 assists up to that point? He could have ended up with a triple double. Our strategy was completely foiled when he was thrown out. And everyone and their momma knows that Pop isn't good with adjustments on the fly.

[nkdlunch]

rofl at ppl trying to call fwd a moron for being reasonable. the spurs were still in the game and leading until very late. they still could have won if they knocked down a few shots.

they had trouble knocking down the shots because they were contested. they were contested because Mav defense did not have Tim to worry about. I am surprised ppl are having trouble comprehending this logic.

[peskypesky]

I agreed with you up until this re ed point. Remember back a few seasons when Duncan was out a good chunk of the season? I remember thinking we were doomed, but the boys in black stepped it up and went on a run that would make any fan proud.

The Spurs aren't as good without Tim as they are without him, but I'd never go so far as to say we aren't contenders with him riding the pine. Tim is not the whole team and to believe that undermines the skills of everyone else on the team. Likewise it implies that we are totally screwed when he starts to get too old to play.

Duncan's ejection was a major contributing factor in the Spurs' loss.

[peskypesky]

they had trouble knocking down the shots because they were contested. they were contested because Mav defense did not have Tim to worry about. I am surprised ppl are having trouble comprehending this logic.

Don't be surprised. Idiots have always existed, and probably always will.

[SBGamesCone]

Duncan's ejection was a major contributing factor in the Spurs' loss.

I am not arguing that. I was as pissed as the rest of us, but essentially saying the spurs are nothing without him is just not true. If it were, Tim would play the entire game or we'd fall apart while he was resting.

[peskypesky]

I agreed with you up until this re ed point. Remember back a few seasons when Duncan was out a good chunk of the season? I remember thinking we were doomed, but the boys in black stepped it up and went on a run that would make any fan proud.

The Spurs aren't as good without Tim as they are without him, but I'd never go so far as to say we aren't contenders with him riding the pine. Tim is not the whole team and to believe that undermines the skills of everyone else on the team. Likewise it implies that we are totally screwed when he starts to get too old to play.

How many times have the Spurs been in the Finals? Three times.
Who were the MVPs in those three Finals? Tim Duncan.

You're a complete moron if you think Tim isn't crucial to our chances of winning it all....

[aaronstampler]

Crawford's call last year when he fouled out Tim because Dirk stepped on his foot was a worse call than throwing Tim out for laughing. Why that call isn't brought up more after this incident is beyond my comprehension.

That was one of about ten calls they made in Games 3 and 4 that were terrible and gave the Mavs a 3-1 lead. Don't forget, in Game 3 Dirk scored 27 points on 3 FGs. He was 21-24 from the line. Just about every point they scored in the 4th quarter that game was from the line.

And Mavs fans have the nerve to complain about Wade.

In game 4 they fouled out Manu by having Terry jump backwards into him when Ginobili was on fire that game. And when we had a 2 point lead late, they let Dirk tie it from the line without even having to draw a foul. Bowen literally just stood still and they whistled him.

Those two games were a bigger joke than any thing that happened in the finals. For all the BS controversy about the "phantom foul" on Dirk against D-Wade, there is photographic evidence that he fouled him. But Mavs fans (and their owner) don't want to hear that.

[Holt's Cat]

Likely Crawford won't ref any Spurs playoff game and the Spurs will get the Bavetta & Salvatore duo for the entire WCF.

[ShoogarBear]

Crawford's call last year when he fouled out Tim because Dirk stepped on his foot was a worse call than throwing Tim out for laughing. Why that call isn't brought up more after this incident is beyond my comprehension.

Have we confirmed this was Crawford? Somebody said in another thread it was Bavetta. To be honest, the only thing I remember from that game is seething rage.

[nkdlunch]

Have we confirmed this was Crawford? Somebody said in another thread it was Bavetta. To be honest, the only thing I remember from that game is seething rage.

that was Crawford

[ShoogarBear]

rofl at ppl trying to call fwd a moron for being reasonable. the spurs were still in the game and leading until very late. they still could have won if they knocked down a few shots.

Absolutely true. The Mavs were primed to blow the game if just one person would have stepped up.

[FromWayDowntown]

Have we confirmed this was Crawford? Somebody said in another thread it was Bavetta. To be honest, the only thing I remember from that game is seething rage.

Yeah, it was Crawford. Bavetta wasn't there that night. The crew was Crawford, Derosa, and Spooner.

[ShoogarBear]

I'm pretty sure I actually started a thread right after that happened . . .

. . . but I can't search for it now!

[temujin]

Anyone believing that Refs CANNOT decide who wins a game closer than 20 points,
has never played basketball.

Anyone claiming that playing without one of the top 5 NBA players over the last 10 years,
the entire last quarter,
against a very good team,
on the road,
is NOT a factor in determining a loss
has no clues whatsoever about any TEAM sports.

If this Crawfoerd chap officiates any game in the playoffs,
I'll place a good bet on Dallas to win it all.