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I've seen them pull off better deals in their sleep.
Salaries have to match if the other team can't absorb the deal. Beno's deal is still small enough to make the returning salary immaterial.
I really don't think so. If anything it could move up from the end of the 2nd, the 50s, to the 40s. That's it. Udrih has a chance to pull something here or there - John Singleton or whatever in a one for one - but absolutely not to move up in the first round.
Using existing players to move up in the draft is difficult, too, I think, because you have to match salaries.
I've seen them pull off better deals in their sleep.
Salaries have to match if the other team can't absorb the deal. Beno's deal is still small enough to make the returning salary immaterial.
I dont see the Spurs moving up from 28 without packaging Scola. Their best prospect is to draft wisely at 28 and 33 and decide on what to do with Scola and Beno. I surely hope Beno isn't on this team next year as he is just taking up a roster space that could be used on someone who isn't completely dead in the Spurs' water.
It's just not going to happen. But I'll leave it there. There's no sense in arguing about it.
Tau offered him a 3 years extension (from 2008 to 2011) but he turned it down likely because he really wants to play in nba.
The 28th pick and Beno wil get you the 29th pick.
After seeing Garbajosa and Hermann I defintiely want to see Scola as a Spur next year. Then again, particularly after seeing the aforementioned two and Nocioni, his value in trade could be very high. A skilled vet, intense, leadership qualities, something a talented young team could use and there are a number of them, i.e., Atlanta, Memphis, Portland. Even Scola's rebounding has picked up, I believe he led in rebounding in the quarter finals Eurocup play.
BTW, Akindele just got 7 boards and at least one block in the 1st quarter of the D-League playoffs.
. If that's the case, then package his ass.
Deji's line
33:03 min
7-12 fg
5-5 ft
7 OR
13 TR
0 AST
6 PF
0 ST
2 TO
2 BLK
19 PTS
His team was like -28 when he was out of the game, as he was the only true big man playing for Fort Worth.
Of course Stephen Graham scored 40, but AFAIK we're not looking for another 6'6" guard who doesn't have a 3. Just remember Deji for summer.
I wonder if NBA teams are quietly told not to raid the rosters of the NBDL teams in the playoffs. Like right now, is a team like the Spurs truly free to waive Ely and sign Deji?
I don't see why the league would forbid or discourage that. Deji's season is over for one thing. The last pickup was exaclty one week ago and that was the league MVP on the team that shared the best record in the league, and he's just going to play four games for Seattle. I figure the more call-ups they get, the better the D-League looks -- they usually pimp the call-up number for the season in their press releases.
No but they will have a team next year :
http://www.nba.com/dleague/riograndevalley/
Looks like we'll get a chance to see the "rooks" in action again tonight. I wonder if their play in these two garbage game will earn them any playoff time...probably not.
hopefully not, unless it's playoff garbage time and one of them is active for the game. Otherwise, it probably means that someone in the PO rotation is down.
hey does any other team have 2 2nd round picks? maybe we can trade our 28th pick for 2
portland has 2 2nd round picks
bulls same
mavs have 3 2nd round picks.....
trade down and stack up the picks? draft and stash in europe?
oh, puke. I hope not.hey does any other team have 2 2nd round picks? maybe we can trade our 28th pick for 2
Even if the Spurs wanted to do what you suggest (trade down, then draft-and-stash), the international "makeup" of this draft isn't structured that way.hey does any other team have 2 2nd round picks? maybe we can trade our 28th pick for 2
portland has 2 2nd round picks
bulls same
mavs have 3 2nd round picks.....
trade down and stack up the picks? draft and stash in europe?
Most international prospects are either sure-fire first rounders (Yi Jianlin, Nicolas Batum, Rudy Fernandez, Marco Belinelli, Tiago Splitter, Ante Tomic), or mid-late second round picks like Koponen, Zabelin, Barac, Fesenko.
It would be ill-advised for the Spurs to trade down or out of this draft, as there probably won't be another one this deep for a long time.
One caveat: The Spurs could still draft-and-stash an international player if one falls to them at 28. Guys like Rudy Fernandez and Tiago Splitter with buyout concerns have a chance, and if either one of them is there I think the Spurs will have a hard time passing on them.hey does any other team have 2 2nd round picks? maybe we can trade our 28th pick for 2
portland has 2 2nd round picks
bulls same
mavs have 3 2nd round picks.....
trade down and stack up the picks? draft and stash in europe?
If an international player doesn't fall to them though, they'd be better off getting the best player available and working out the roster crunch issue later in the off-season.
I just wonder if the Spurs would sit Beno in favor of Butler or White depending on the matchups. I know they're not likely to dress out, and even less likely to play...but I was just wondering.
I'm actually kind of glad that the Spurs don't have to rely on "rooks" like these two for key playoff minutes.
Having said that, if Butler plays well in the off-season and still isn't given an opportunity for PT over Oberto and/or Elson...I'll be pissed!
Yeah, what the Spurs need to do is trade up. They may not even know what to do with the Chicago pick, if they have it, unless they have some 'magical, can't miss' player no one knows about yet.
But this draft absolutely, positively has to be about the present, not the extended future.
Although I hate the thought of Beno getting any kind of PO minutes (and I wouldn't mind seeing what White could do in a short stint or two), the Spurs are not likely to deactivate him for a game and dress only 2 PG in favor of dressing another wing.
Thoughts from the last game of the year:
James White - Again, very nice job on the defensive end. He moves his feet well, is willing to take charges and knows where to be in terms of team defense. I've been very impressed with his defense.
Offensively, he had an off night but still showed a couple glimpses. He did a nice job of penetrating and drawing contact. If he could ever use his athleticism to his advantage to help him finish in traffic, he'd be pretty damn good off the dribble. His jumper was off, but that's to be expected for a guy who is reworking his shot.
He was drop dead tired by the end of the game. He started cramping up in the fourth and couldn't finish the game. But overall, you have to be impressed with how he played. He made the most of his minutes and showed that he could have a good future with the Spurs.
Jackie Butler - Butler had another good performance, scoring 10 points and pulling down 9 rebounds in 28 minutes while shooting 4-for-7 from the floor. I was again impressed with his good hands and good touch around the basket. He has that innate ability to score around the basket, a la Al Jefferson and Zach Randolph.
Defensively, he still has a long ways to go. When he's getting posted up on, he doesn't put up a good enough fight. His perimeter defense is also lacking. But he's already further along than someone like Melvin Ely and it's debatable whether he's a better defender than Matt Bonner.
He looks to be a pretty good rebounder. Can't really complain with a double-double and then another near double-double in the two games he got to play. Elson had one double-double all year.
Butler was also extremely tired in the second half. He was barely running up and down the floor. It looks like Pop has run Butler and White hardcore in practices recently. They both could hardly move come the fourth quarter. Going into the fourth, Butler was 4-for-4 form the field but missed all of his tired shots in the final stanza.
Being only 22-years-old, he still has a lot of time to improve. With dropping all the weight he did, he's going to have to really rework how he defends and battles for rebounds. He can no longer rely on being the widest body on the court.
I like his potential and if he continues to work hard over the summer, he might be able to stay on the active roster next season. His time to shine will be 2008-09 when Oberto, Elson and Horry all come off the books.
Melvin Ely - He came off a bad performance with a rather decent performance. He was much better on the block offensively and was a little better defensively.
This main problem is he can't rebound well enough to be an everyday NBA bigman. He tries and seems to be a good guy, but without being able to rebound or defend at a high level, he's never going to be much other than a hired gun who can come in and score down low. Think Antoine Carr without as good of a jumper.
I don't expect the Spurs to re-sign him unless a lot of other things fall thru and he's left as the only viable option. He'd be a decent investment but honestly, Butler brings a lot of the same characteristics and is six years younger.
Last edited by timvp; 04-19-2007 at 05:00 AM.
32 points, 19 rebounds on 54.2% field goal percentage in 64 minutes after the All-Star break for Jackie Butler. Translate that to Francisco Elson minutes and that is still 9.6 points and 5.7 rebounds per game.
Perhaps the Spurs finally have hope for a real center.
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