Joey Goes Out Swinging at Bavetta?

[timvp]

Bennett Salvatore has taken the "Whistle while you work" idea a bit far. Game 1's 72-foul explosion was no surprise to those in the know: Since the second round began, there have been four playoff games with 57 or more fouls, and ol' B.S. worked all of them. His games have averaged 58 fouls -- the most in any other game is 56. Please, David Stern, stop the madness.

You'd think the NBA could crunch its own stats and start eliminating officials that stand way out from the norm. When BS refs a game, stats show that the team with the better free throw percentage usually wins. And it's been like that for years now.

[T Park]

How many salvatore reffed playoff games did the spurs do

[picnroll]

Anywhere where there's stats on Spurs playoff games since '99 and wins - losses for the Spurs and who reffed?

[timvp]

Spurs versus the Mavs last year in the playoffs, the Spurs lost Game 2 with Steve Javie, Game 3 with Joey Crawford, Game 4 with Knick Bavetta and Game 7 with Javie and Bavetta

Javie might be the ref most likely to hold a grudge because of this Crawford situation. Not only does Javie hate David Robinson, he lists Joey Crawford as his mentor.

I think the only San Antonian who loves Javie is T Park.

[spurtime]

Anywhere where there's stats on Spurs playoff games since '99 and wins - losses for the Spurs and who reffed?

Yes...I saw one going into the playoffs last season...I'll see if I can find it for you.

[T Park]

I don't love him.

But hes fair.

He doesn't blow any more calls than Jim Clark, Monty friggen McCutcheon, or Greg Willard.

My all time favorite ref though was Blaine Reichelt, 1, he was VERY fair. 2, that hair sometimes was out of control

[whottt]

Spurs versus the Mavs last year in the playoffs, the Spurs lost Game 2 with Steve Javie, Game 3 with Joey Crawford, Game 4 with Knick Bavetta and Game 7 with Javie and Bavetta

Javie might be the ref most likely to hold a grudge because of this Crawford situation. Not only does Javie hate David Robinson, he lists Joey Crawford as his mentor.

I think the only San Antonian who loves Javie is T Park.

I don't think Javie's a bad ref.

Quick whistle does not = a bad ref.

[T Park]

Javie whenever hes miked, also explains his calls to the coaches the best.

I can remember in 02 against the Lakers, when Bowen go a T, he went right over to Pop and explained "George got a T for the same move with the elbow, and I had to call it."

I had a tremendous amount of respect for him after that game

[picnroll]

In terms of incompetence Salvatorre has to top the list. , even Palmer has to clean up his messes sometimes strightening out his calls. How he has attained finals reffing status is way beyond me.

[timvp]

I don't think Javie's a bad ref.

I always knew you were a closet DRob hater.

[T Park]

Yeah Javie's thing against Robinson was always puzzling.

[whottt]

I always knew you were a closet DRob hater.

Why, did I make a post saying AJ lead us to the le or something? Crap...not my day.




I didn't say I liked Javie...I just don't think he's a bad ref. I still don't think Crawford is a particularly bad ref...I don't get a sickening feeling when I see hm reffing Spurs Games.

[timvp]

Why, did I make a post saying AJ lead us to the le or something? Crap...not my day.




I didn't say I liked Javie...I just don't think he's a bad ref. I still don't think Crawford is a particularly bad ref...I don't get a sickening feeling when I see hm reffing Spurs Games.

Whatever, hater. For a supposed DRob fan, siding with Javie is like siding with a Karl Malone elbow.

Took a while, but all DRob haters expose themselves after a while.

[mavsfan1000]

With Joey suspended, Danny Crawford is the best, hands down.

Danny Crawford. Worst official of all-time.

[T Park]

[whottt]

Yawn...that's like saying I hate Tim Duncan because I don't think Crawford is a ty ref....


Get back to me after we get a nice healthy dose of Bavetta and Salvtore...then you'll get it.

[Tek_XX]

Isn't Bavetta rep that he likes to help the home team?

I think Javie is considered by most (outside spurstalk) the best ref.

[RonMexico]

I always liked Joey Crawford - that was ridiculous, though. He's still a little hot-headed two days later. Like last year when he threw Haslem out for throwing a mouthpiece near him.

Secondly, I'm not a big fan of Javie's decisions out there, but he does have a pretty good personality when he's miked up.

Bavetta has grown on me as a character over the past year... off the court. On the court, his "character" can grow pretty thin.

Nies... gahahklhglkjda

That's it for now - I have no mental capacity left.

[timvp]

[schadenfreude52]

I kinda like Javie...

I was alright with Crawford until Sunday. Then he became a huge .

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

He may suck. I always look for consistency.

And hes consistent in his calls alot of the time.

Yeah, consistently ty

[T Park]

Yeah, consistently ty

I disagree.

Hes consistent in how he interprets the game, and hes fair across the board to both teams.

[DaMavs02]

As a Mavs fan, I'd also like to voice my disapproval of Dan Crawford.

I think in playoff games over the past 5 or 6 years, the Mavs have a horrendous record when he's on the crew. I think it was 0-11 before last year's playoffs, and they maybe bumped it up to 2-13 or something. Given that the Mavs have won a decent percent of playoff games, it seems off enough to look into.

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Sports betting sites do keep track of some refereeing statistics. Joey Crawford is pretty neutral against the spread overall. Dan Crawford on the year only has the home team outscoring the road team by .3 points, where normal expectations are closer to 3 points.

[picnroll]

Mavsfan want Slavatorre to ref everyone of their games. A guy who likes hard nosed play like Dan Crawford is definitely not good for the flailing fraulein.

[polandprzem]

so, who is the best ref in the game?

Danny Crawford