If he's in SA with Duncan, Manu, Parker, and Pop surrounding him, he never is a party to anything like the Palace brawl, and he's not firing guns at some club in downtown SA.
When in Rome, do as the Romans do. It applies to Jax. When he was here in SA, he was kept in check. He was on a team in Indy with Jermaine O'Neal, Ron Artest, and Al freakin' Harrington. Come on!
Given the arcanity of the Spurs system, we should have valued the two years he had already spent getting acclimated and reinvested in our "product". Finley only now is getting used to the Spurs system. Hopefully White will pan out because we're running out of time for players to suck when they first get here.
Man. This was going to be my thread to make.
The type of offense the Spurs run isn't one Jackson excels in. Just look at his production with the Pacers compared to what hes doing on the Warriors.
I still don't understand how Jackson didn't retire as a Spur. If you are into winning championships, you might want to have a proven hard ass shooter who isn't scared to drop threes when the playoff lights are on.
Instead the Spurs have Brent Barry passing it right when he gets it to pretend he isn't actually wide open.
Exactly. Under Nellie's system he can chuck threes til his arms fall off and still be in the system.
You can play the what ifs til the cows come home. Maybe the Spurs can't resign Manu if Jax stays. Or if they both stay here Jax winds up in Manu's shadow and shoots him. Or he just gets toxic and the Spurs find themselves exactly where Indiana did. Maybe he becomes a six time all star. I think given enough time he'd have found his way into Pop's dog house and there's few who ever get out of it once they are there.
And I know stats don't tell the whole story about being clutch, but given his shooting % I'm guessing that he's shot his teams into just as many holes as he's shot them out of. 31% in the playoffs for his career from behind the arc.
So 2003 was a dream?
2003.
Game.
its in the past.
Move on.
Yeah, he was definitely a streaky shooter, no doubt about it, but my god did Sjax have balls. he THRIVES to hit those pressure shots, and anytime the clock was winding down he always seemed like he wanted the ball more than TD and Manu combined
Every team needs a player like that.
People who quote stats in regards to SJax are ridiculous. His playoff worth isn't about stats - it's about having a guy who has the balls to step up and take big shots. A player who isn't afraid to step on a team's throat and put them out of their misery *insert stupid criminal/arrest joke here ha ha* with a big dagger 3. He can also be the small ball lineup PF.
I'm not moving on Tpark. Steven Jackson should have been leading the way to us eeking out game one verse the Nuggets instead of starting one of the biggest upsets in sports history tonight.
We need someone with some toughness to go along with our pysch major that out pyches himself and plays powder puff basketball.
The nuggets winning this series wouldnt be one of the biggest upsets in sports history.
Hes not here.
He hasnt been here for 4 seasons now.
Yeah, its time to move on.
Told ya back then that letting go of Jack for nothing was a big, big mistake.
you cats are so funny man.... how come i never seen one of these threads when dude was shooting the club up?
You must have missed them. A big group of Spurs fans (myself included) have been wanting Jack back since he left. I cried when he left the Spurs
The Spurs dissed Jack. They tried to low-ball him and then took that contract away about a week later.
That's not how it went down. They didn't take any offer back from him. His ass agent didn't even respond to the Spurs offer and went searching elsewhere.
i like stephen jax when he was here and was upset when they didnt sign him.....with that bein said
ive continued to wanna see him doin good things on the court and tonight was no exception...watch the championship DVDs he hit big shot after big shot and if he was on this team he would be guarding Carmelo right now....But he isnt sooooooo
with the spurs FO makin so many good decisions you cant say much about this 1 except OOPS
That's called negotiating. Jack loved SA, he played here for a couple of great years for almost free, but Pop doesn't like offensive minded swing-men. Witness the whole fiasco with Sean Elliott.
WTF? Are you kidding me? Do all of you not remember who Jack's agent was? Do you not remember hearing from him that he wanted to stay here then his agent screwing him into taking crap for money from the Hawks?
Spin this however you want, and ignore the fact that had we kept Jax for waht he wanted there was no way we would have Manu today, but all of you hating on the Spurs for this are rewriting history and rewriting it poorly.
Jax is a of a player, but lets not just spew bull here.
Well, shame on us. Paying Jack for helping SA win a Championship would have been wrong. The dude was making bread crumbs here for two years just to get out of NJ.
It was brought up, but not emphasized. Keeping Jack would have made it much more difficult to keep Manu. no one else offered Manu a contract because the Spurs had the ability and the will to match any reasonable offer and let everyone know it. I suppose one could argue that we shouldn't have signed Rasho, but then who and how much?
My "what if" is what if we had made Manu's first contract for three years instead of two. That would make either of the Manu-or-Jack or Manu-or-Hedo choices we had to make unecessary.
But ultimately, so what?
I don't buy the case that Jack and Manu couldn't have both fit under the cap. Jack could have been had for a long-term contract that would have fit in the same slot that Barry's contract eventually fit.
This conversation has already been played out in too many Balla threads in this forum through the years. It's the philosophical coaching weakness for POP that matters, he doesn't like Balla's like Jack, never has.
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