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Ah well. Here is the first.
If I can get there from here...
If you are going to post the gifs of the manifests, just give the address to that page.
http://www.911myths.com/html/officia...st_images.html
all of the rest of the images can be found here.
UNLIKE THE CONSPIRANUTS THIS WEBSITE LISTS ITS SOURCES, INCLUDING WHERE IT GOT THE GIFS, SO YOU CAN FACT CHECK IT.
heh. already figerred that out for myself. I was typing that post before I read this one.
That just means that the LA Times is also in on the conspiracy.
DAN?
MOUSE?
MOUSE ALIASES?
MISC MOONBATS?
Things I've learned today:
There was no fire in the WTC towers.
Five story buildings that cover 29 acres of land are difficult to see twice.
The LA Times is behind 9/11.
Let me make things a little easier for you internet research disadvantaged...
WikipediaThe plane was a Boeing 757-222 on a morning route from Newark International Airport (now known as Newark Liberty International Airport) in Newark, New Jersey, near New York City, to San Francisco International Airport near San Francisco, California (EWR-SFO). It had 182 seats but was carrying only 37 passengers (33 regular passengers and four hijackers) and seven crew members: two pilots, the captain Jason M. Dahl and his first officer, LeRoy Homer; and five flight attendants. Because one passenger had booked two seats, some early accounts said there were 38 passengers on board. The four hijackers were seated in first class.
A flag flies over Gate A17. United 93 pushed back from this gate at 8.01AM on September 11, 2001. Two hours later it crashed into a field in Pennsylvania
A flag flies over Gate A17. United 93 pushed back from this gate at 8.01AM on September 11, 2001. Two hours later it crashed into a field in Pennsylvania
The aircraft was scheduled to depart at 8:00 a.m. but did not lift off until 8:42 due to routine heavy morning traffic.[2] Had the flight departed on time, it would likely have been hijacked around the same time as the other flights, and there is little chance the passengers would have had time
38 passengers on a flight of 182 possible seats, on a morning flight from two major hubs?
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Did CNN have the full manifest at noon on 9/12?
Yes or no?
American Airlines Flight 11: A Boeing 767-223ER -- Seating Capacity 181 -- Fatalities 92 including 11 crew....81 out of 181 seats fullAircraft type Boeing 767-223ER
Operator American Airlines
Tail number N334AA
Passengers 81 (incl. 5 hijackers)
Crew 11
Survivors 0
Wikepedia
81 out of 181 seats full
Why did you completely change your source from CNN on 9/12/2001 to anonymous wiki author?
Aircraft type Boeing 767-222
Operator United Airlines
Tail number N612UA
Passengers 56 (incl. 5 hijackers)
Crew 9
Survivors 0
American Airlines Flight 77: A Boeing 757-223 -- Seating Capacity 200 -- Fatalities 64.
United Airlines Flight 93: A Boeing 757-222 -- Seating Capacity 200 -- Fatalities 44Boeing 757-223
Operator American Airlines
Tail number N644AA
Passengers 58 (incl 5 hijackers)
Crew 6
Survivors 0
Anyone seeing a pattern developing here?Aircraft type Boeing 757-222
Operator United Airlines
Tail number N591UA
Passengers 37 (including 4 hijackers)
Crew 7
Survivors 0
Here's the link you gave, in case you forgot.
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/1...nology.attack/
Your pattern of not answering questions is well-established.
..of airlines over-scheduling a major hub?
THIS proves what exactly?
That US airlines make bad decisions?
Tell me something I DON'T know.
Tell ya what.
Why don't you look at the balance sheet and statement of cashflows of those airlines from 2001.
Better yet, do it by the first two quarters of that year. You can look up their SEC filings.
US airlines were waging a rather brutal turf war over hubs. The best way to do that is to overschedule flights.
THAT
and the combination of a the beginnings of an economic slowdown, meaning that not only were they over scheduling flights, their predictions about how much they could fill even then fell short.
Anything else?
Let's summarize...
American Airlines Flight 77: A Boeing 757-223 -- Seating Capacity 200, carrying 58 passengers (5 hijackers) and 6 crew.
United Airlines Flight 93: A Boeing 757-222 -- Seating Capacity 200, carrying 37 passengers (4 hijackers) and 7 crew.
American Airlines Flight 11: A Boeing 767-223ER -- Seating Capacity 181 --carrying 81 passengers (5 hijackers) and 11 crew.
United Airlines Flight 175: A Boeing 767-222 -- Seating capacity 181, 56 passengers (incl. 5 hijackers) and 9 crew.
Fascinating. Do you have the capacities and passenger and crew counts for every cross-country flight that morning from Dulles, Logan and Newark airports for comparison?
To complete your analysis, you'll need to produce occupancy data for those routes on dates leading up to 9/11, in order to demonstrate that the light passenger numbers are unusual.
FOR THE QUARTER IMMEDIATELY PRIOR TO 9-11
United Air Lines, Inc. and Subsidiary Companies
Statements of Consolidated Operations (Unaudited)
(In Millions)
Three Months
Ended June 30
Operating revenues:
Passenger [2001 $ 4,028] [2000 $ 4,567]
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/da...008/bodyua.htm
Hows that for a summary AND a pattern?
American Airlines Flight 77: 29% of capacity.
United Airlines Flight 93: 18.5% of capacity.
American Airlines Flight 11: 44.9% capacity
United Airlines Flight 175: 39% capacity.
Can anyone tell me the national avg capacity rate for all airline flights from one coast, major hub, to another coast, major hub?
Can anyone tell me the capcities of all the cross country flights originating from Dulles, Logan and Newark airports on the morning of Tuesday, September 11?
Granted this doesn't speak for that hub, but it STRONGLY suggests that low occupancy rates were more a function of overall industry and economic conditions.
DOES ANYBODY REALLY DOUBT THAT I COULD LOOK UP EVERY DAMN AIRLINES' QUARTERLY REPORT AND BACK UP THIS ASSERTION?
So much for "scientific method".
First thing you do is examine wider contexts for confounding variables.
Nah, the obvious answer is "They did it".
I can.
Give me a time period and a few days for research.
It is in the financial statements if you can trick out the numbers.
I did a report comparing airlines for one of my accounting classes.
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To REALLY answer this question you need to give a time period though.
I assume the data you have/are looking for was from that time period, and not a few year after, when airlines started cutting back on unprofitable flights.
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