Heat from tanker truck collapses steel reinforced overpass

[Nbadan]

How many nearby collapsing skyscrapers crashed into the building shown above?

Which tower directly collapsed on WTC7 again?

[Nbadan]

Originally Posted by Fox News

[Yonivore]

The quote from from CalTrans, you idiot.

[Nbadan]

(ofcourse that is so relevent and shouldnt the bottom level have been pancaked by the weight of the second level falling on it?) dripping with sarcasm[/U]

Did you see the falling concrete crumble into millions of pieces too?

[Nbadan]

The quote from from CalTrans, you idiot.

How hot did the WTC fires get again?

[RandomGuy]

http://www.school-for-champions.com/science/density.htm

One cubic centimeter of Iron weighs 7.8 grams.

This means that a pound is about a 1.5 inch cube.

So for every two inch cube of steel, it would require 1/10 of a pound of thermite.

CTers LOVE to go on about how thick the columns were, and here is where it bites them in the ass.

If it takes .13 pounds of thermite to get steel to 700 degrees, then to get to melting point (2000 degrees if memory serves) would take about two and half times that.

Call it about a third of a pound of thermite PER 1.5 INCH CUBE melted.

Notice that none of the CTers have ever gotten even this far into calculating what their happy fun theory posits.

HOW MANY 1.5 inch cubes are in those "MASSIVELY THICK" columns? Multiply that by the number of columns.
Multiply that by the number of floors.

WHERE THE CHRISTLY DID ALL THAT THERMITE COME FROM?

Waitin on the answer to this gem...

[Nbadan]

Since they contend the steel MELTED, you are talking enough thermite to melt a LOT of steel.

It wouldn't have taken as much termite, or other extremely hot burning material, as you might think. I've seen estimates of a 3" wide layer of thermite either sprayed or applied to steel beams would have been sufficient.

[Yonivore]

How hot did the WTC fires get again?

Hot enough to affect the structural integrity, I would imagine.

[Nbadan]

Hot enough to affect the structural integrity, I would imagine.

Hot enough to affect the structural integrity of basement floors?

[Extra Stout]

ahhh you figure the 4 5 6 would fall from the damage before number 7 since you know...sorry just look at the map

Did you know that a 47-story building weighs more than a 9-story building?

[RandomGuy]

It wouldn't have taken as much termite, or other extremely hot burning material, as you might think. I've seen estimates of a 3" wide layer of thermite either sprayed or applied to steel beams would have been sufficient.

How many man hours would this have taken?

[Extra Stout]

and as for your "governement reports" you expect me to believe that when people within the government did 911....goodness ignorance is bliss

Oh, I see, you already have your mind made up, we shouldn't confuse you with facts or evidence.

[RandomGuy]

It wouldn't have taken as much termite, or other extremely hot burning material, as you might think. I've seen estimates of a 3" wide layer of thermite either sprayed or applied to steel beams would have been sufficient.

Tell me then, a rough approximation, how much per column would it have taken?

1 pound?
10?
20?

[Nbadan]

Tell me then, a rough approximation, how much per column would it have taken?

1 pound?
10?
20?

Nah, that's too high...I'll have a looksy for the article..

[RandomGuy]

It wouldn't have taken as much termite, or other extremely hot burning material, as you might think. I've seen estimates of a 3" wide layer of thermite either sprayed or applied to steel beams would have been sufficient.

How would this thermite have been kept in place instead of running down the column when it started burning?

[Nbadan]

How many man hours would this have taken?

Let's not forget the unprecedented power-downs and reports of strange workers in both towers prior to 911.

[RandomGuy]

Let's not forget the unprecedented power-downs and reports of strange workers in both towers prior to 911.

You didn't answer my question.

How many labor hours?

[The_Worlds_finest]

Oh, I see, you already have your mind made up, we shouldn't confuse you with facts or evidence.

It would be so much easier to disprove all the 911 complication had all the evidence not been recycled or pressed into commemarative coins in such a rushed manner..

[RandomGuy]

Nah, that's too high...I'll have a looksy for the article..

NIST researchers estimated that at least 0.13 pounds of thermite would be required to heat each pound of a steel section to approximately 700 degrees Celsius

Melting point of steel 2000 degrees

.13*2000/700=.37 pounds of thermite per pound of steel to melt steel.

1 pound of steel is 1.5 cubic inches.

so this would be 1 pound of thermite per 4 square inches of steel assuming that one applied that in a 1 inch band laterally, and only melted the first cubic inch. (I assume the column is more than an inch thick, so this would not be sufficient to melt all the way through)

It would then be a simple matter to measure around the column with a tape measure say at least 3, maybe 5 feet in cir fence?

Five feet divided by 4 inches would yield 15 pounds of thermite per column, just to melt a ring of one cubic inch and not all the way through.

if the column is further around, it is more, if the column is thicker than an inch, it is more.

15*47 columns=705 pounds per floor
705 pounds per floor times 100 floors=77550 pounds per building
times two buildings =77.55 TONS of thermite AT A MINIMUM.

Tell me again where the invoice for all this is?

Surely that much thermite would be a MAJOR order for the company that made it.

Find that invoice, and you convince me.

[Extra Stout]

It has already been shown by photographic evidence that the agencies investigating the disaster held on to steel beams and other debris for quite a while, but I choose to ignore that because it doesn't fit what I want to believe.

[Nbadan]

How would this thermite have been kept in place instead of running down the column when it started burning?

the amount of burn down would be dependent on the amount of thermite applied and the angle and method of application. It's more likely thermite would be used to weaken the steel, much like your theory on fire.

[The_Worlds_finest]

ofcourse you cant post link

[The_Worlds_finest]

ofcourse you cant post link to the alleged photos

[Nbadan]

thermite would pull into liquid metal....



Shortly after this, the liquid iron flows into the mold around the rail gap.

[RandomGuy]

the amount of burn down would be dependent on the amount of thermite applied and the angle and method of application. It's more likely thermite would be used to weaken the steel, much like your theory on fire.

Remember my calculations provide a very minimal figure, so you are still talking something on the order of a hundred tons to realistically be able to do what you say happened.

There were a few reports of "odd" work crews, but if there were guys constantly going in and out of EVERY floor, surely that would have been remarked on a bit more than it was by survivors, wouldn't it?

There is no "angle" for a vertical column.

If that layer of crap was everywhere it would have taken one small crew MONTHS to wire the buildings in the manner you describe. Say 10 minutes per column*47*110*2=103400 minutes= <b>43 solid days of 8 hour work for a five man team.</b>
TIMES TWO.

IF no one really noticed the stuff sticking to the columns with detonators attached to it in that month.


This never pans out when you actually think about what would have been involved.