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    If it came down to nocioni or peitrus (which lately are the names being mentioned on this site) I would prefer pietrus only because he would cost the spurs 3+ million less and he is 3 years younger.
    Given the Spurs' need for a SF that can play the PF in small-ball sets, I think I'd take Nocioni. Also, the Spurs have Bowen, Finley, and White as G/Fs already...

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    IMO Bulls should let go of Gordon, before Nocioni.

    Gordon is a ballhog and chucker like Arenas,AI,etc
    Never a bad thing to have a guy that can put up 30+ points on any given night.

    But, if they featured him in a package to get a low-post guy that could get 20 and 10, then I'd do the deal.

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    What else do you want? These are realisitc options going into next year. Our biggest need is at SF, signing Nocioni or Pietrus would fulfill that. What do you want me to say, the Spurs should go S&T for Garnett?
    Clearly he was being sarcastic. The likelihood that the Spurs stretch their limited resources and come away with every player you mentioned is slim...dare I say, non-existent.

    The Spurs may be able to pull off one of those moves, but I doubt your dream scenario becomes a reality.

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    I dont think they need do go after any sf in free agency. I would like them to see what they have in the future of White, and they could always draft someone to fill that position. Dont know why they would have to go outside of those options
    While White is a good player & I would like to see him continue as a Spur, I am not sure he is our answer at the SF spot & drafting a SF at 27 is definitly not going to be the answer to our SF problems. Bowen, Finley & Horry are all about done, the Spurs most pressing need is finding a suitable replacement at SF, & I imagine the Spurs will look to fill that need by using the MLE this offseason, whether it be with Pietrus, Nocioni or someone else, the Spurs should be looking at a SF this summer.

    If you dont think that the SF position is our biggest concern, what position do you think is?

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    Clearly he was being sarcastic. The likelihood that the Spurs stretch their limited resources and come away with every player you mentioned is slim...dare I say, non-existent.

    The Spurs may be able to pull off one of those moves, but I doubt your dream scenario becomes a reality.
    So was he being sarcastic about preferring Pietrus over Nocioni if we had to make a choice?

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    While White is a good player & I would like to see him continue as a Spur, I am not sure he is our answer at the SF spot & drafting a SF at 27 is definitly not going to be the answer to our SF problems. Bowen, Finley & Horry are all about done, the Spurs most pressing need is finding a suitable replacement at SF, & I imagine the Spurs will look to fill that need by using the MLE this offseason, whether it be with Pietrus, Nocioni or someone else, the Spurs should be looking at a SF this summer.

    If you dont think that the SF position is our biggest concern, what position do you think is?
    Talented bigs. Bowen and Finley have another year left in them to me at least. Horry is gone, and that leaves us with Berrty and Elson. Butler might turn out pretty good, but right now he isnt a answer. I would love the Spurs to get a big that can grab 8-10 boards, maybe a block or 2 and another 8-10 points on a consistent basis. If we could get another big in there to take some pressure off of Tim, it just might keep Timmy around for an extra year or two. I do agree that we need a new wing player, Im just hoping that we can use next year to find out about White. And there will be a lot of sf/sgs around where we will pick available, its a deep draft at those positions

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    So was he being sarcastic about preferring Pietrus over Nocioni if we had to make a choice?
    All I was implying is the 2-3 million (at least) that could be saved by taking pietrus over nocioni could be used in other signings (such as pg). Lets not forget that peitrus is the same age as white (let you decide who is farther along in their BB skills). Oh, and yes I was being very sarcastic when saying "is that all?" due to the spurs not making that many moves over the last 2 years combined.

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    Why would Golden State not match a reasonable offer for this guy?

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    Why would Golden State not match a reasonable offer for this guy?
    Stephen Jackson
    JRich
    Matt Barnes
    Al Harrington

    They are notoriously cheap and have the whole "guy who can post up and shoot" thing covered.

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    Stephen Jackson
    JRich
    Matt Barnes
    Al Harrington

    They are notoriously cheap and have the whole "guy who can post up and shoot" thing covered.
    I don't remember their being cheap, just really stupid with the money they do spend. They spent as much money as we did this season, and have about the same obligations we have next season. Those four guys you mentioned are already playing alot of minutes already, so I don't see why Pietrus would be so expendable barring the drafting of a superior player.

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    Why wouldn't Golden State match any amount that's MLE or less?

    Especially why wouldn't they match a paltry sum of 3-4 per? That's nothing for an NBA bench player. Brent Barry makes more than that, and he was a million years old on the backside of his career when he signed his deal to be a bench player.

    Maybe if some other team broke him off $7+ after losing out on Gerald Wallace I could see Golden State being hesitant to pull the trigger with them needing to pay Biedrins and Ellis, but that's not something the Spurs can figure in on.

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    I don't remember their being cheap, just really stupid with the money they do spend. They spent as much money as we did this season, and have about the same obligations we have next season. Those four guys you mentioned are already playing alot of minutes already, so I don't see why Pietrus would be so expendable barring the drafting of a superior player.
    Two words, Adonal Foyle.
    Why wouldnt the Warriors just pay him his qualifying offer for next year?
    Maybe I just dont understand how the qualifying offers work

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    Why wouldn't Golden State match any amount that's MLE or less?
    I'd say because Pietrus isn't worth it. They have other wing players who do the same thing. Point in fact: they haven't needed him this series, although he did come through last night. If someone throws the full MLE at him, the GSW have a tough decision.

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    If we throw our full MLE at another 6'5" guard, I'll start a Hawks board.

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    guys who come through in one or two games in the playoffs make their money all the time (except stephen jackson, lol).

    Austin Croshere turned two twenty point games into 7 million a year.

    Pietrus is also good insurance in case Jackson has to go to jail.

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    If we throw our full MLE at another 6'5" guard, I'll start a Hawks board.
    hey, that's not fair. I thought he was 6'6"?

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    Yeah, that makes a difference.

    I apologize.

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    lol

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    According to hoops hype he is 6'6. Where are you getting 6'5?

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    Chump I thought you would enjoy the facts on this matter!!I think pietrus can be had 4 million..

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    Yeah, this thread is chock full o' facts.

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    Dude, its all in good fun...Try it some time you may enjoy it!!

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    "If we spend $4 million of our MLE on another 6'6" guard, I'll voluntarily edit a Woody Paige sentence."

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    Let's be realistic... what's Matt Barnes deal?

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