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Not a fight...no suspension will come.
ding...nellie would not approve, this fan was just taking a book out of nellie's tricks of the trade. remember when monta ellis fell down in the first mavs/warriors game of the regular season? he was getting ready to jump back up and continue in the game and nellie ran over and told him to stay down in the hopes that he would get the call
Not a fight...no suspension will come.
link to the clip of this? i was at the game so i didn't catch it and i forgot to tivo the game. i know it wasn't a fight but neither was the action that mbenga took last season which garnered him a six game suspension...he didn't even talk or do anything to the fan, he just stood there because cuban asked him to. anyway, i'm assuming you saw the clip since you're saying it was no big deal, please link, i'd like to see it, thanks.
Just responding to a guy who claimed Terry was attempting to break Baron's neck. my post was no more ridiculous than that claim.
BTW i'm not saying that Terry wasn't making a dirty punk move. He did. But attempting to break his neck?
Yeah JET was just plain foolish with that move. But Davis blatantly flopped, he tried to sell it for more than what it was. Even from the TV angle, looks like JET tried to get him down, but not knock him out. JET does this kinda stuff all the time and I never noticed it or what?
I still am looking for something about the altercation bc on the radio, RICH denied any altercation, in the SF paper he doesnt know what happened. So any further news? Or are we all just speculating?
I would want JRICH in the game bc that will be just one more reason why the Mavs are being bailed out... blah, blah, blah...
BTW - I didnt think SJAX deserved either techs really, def not to be ejected. I didnt think BD deserved that last foul call on him either, it was incidental contact...
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slu...yhoo&type=lgns
War of words
By Adrian Wojnarowski, Yahoo! Sports
May 2, 2007
DALLAS – They were walking past the windows of the Old No. 7 Club in the corridor between the home and away locker rooms, the three stragglers shuffling past the postgame bar and grill of Dallas Mavericks fans. Long past midnight now, these people started standing and screaming through the glass, barking at Baron Davis and Don Nelson, clutching his Bud Light, and finally the most hated Warrior in the house, Stephen Jackson.
Davis and Nellie smiled and nodded on the way out of Game 5 on Tuesday night, but Jackson is Jackson and this wild series has brought out the best and worst of him. He wore his Yankees cap sideways along with his diamond studded crucifix, and finally he reached into his pocket, pulled out his money clip and waved a big, fat wad of the Golden State Warriors house money at those cursing him.
They were playing with it all the way into the final, fatal minutes when, within a whisper of one of the greatest upsets in NBA history, the Warriors unraveled in a 118-112 loss at the American Airlines Center.
Golden State made the mistake of letting Dirk Nowitzki get back into this series. All at once, Davis did a double-clutch, off-balance three-pointer with 3:21 left – "A horse shot," Mark Cuban called it – to take a 112-103 lead, until Nowitzki, the embattled Mavericks star, vowed to validate his front-running MVP candidacy with Dallas' championship hopes fading.
With much of basketball calling him a fraudulent superstar for his performance in the series, with his own coach, Avery Johnson, finally demanding that his All-Star's disposition stop drooping and start delivering, Nowitzki dropped 12 of his 30 points in the final three minutes and seven seconds.
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This had all the more stunning of a turn of events considering that Nowitzki didn't have a shot – never mind a basket – in the fourth quarter until the season was on the brink and he pulled it back. "Dirk popped the spinach on the sidelines and said, 'I am what I am,' " Cuban marveled.
And so started a blur of 15 straight Dallas points to end Game 5, pulling the Mavericks within 3-2 of the Warriors in the best-of-seven series. Nowitzki's rush of three-pointers and free throws set into motion an unraveling of Golden State in those final minutes that included nine straight missed shots, Jackson getting ejected and Jason Richardson inviting an NBA security probe into a possible pushing incident with a courtside fan late in the game.
Davis, the best player in this series, fouled out, and Jackson, the series' biggest headcase, was tossed for the second time in the series for clapping too vigorously in the direction of an official.
"Life of Stephen Jackson," he grumbled. "That's all I've got to say. Life of Stephen Jackson. That's all I'm saying."
Of course, Jackson can't help himself, and he went on to essentially call himself a target. Yet he still promised that, "We're going to go home and close it out."
Perhaps, but commissioner David Stern may first have to make a decision on Richardson's availability for Game 6. After Richardson's momentum carried him out of bounds late in the game, he found himself in the lap of a Dallas fan. They were briefly entangled, witnesses said, and Mavericks and NBA security interviewed the fan later for his side of the exchange.
What team and league sources were told, according to two high-ranking league officials, was that Richardson said, "Push me again, (expletive), and I'll beat your ass." NBA security's Dwayne Bishop was on the telephone with the fan late Tuesday night in the arena dining room, apparently reaching the man after he had talked to Mavericks security. At the least, Richardson probably bought himself a fine.
"I can't remember (what he said) in the heat of the moment," Richardson said of the fan. "All I know is that I pushed him back, trying to see who he was. But it's over." Despite the Mavericks' breathless bid in the final minutes to spare themselves a long, shocking summer, the biggest burden is still on Dallas to get out of this series alive. Before the game, Cuban blew off steam on the Stairmaster in the Mavericks' locker room, defending Nowitzki and ripping his ever-growing nemesis, Nelson, the deposed Dallas coach.
"Some people are afraid to lose," Cuban said. "You can't be afraid to lose if you're going to be a winner. You see it in business all the time. No balls, no babies, right? You've got to go for it. I don't think Nellie's got that at ude and that was a conflict between us."
Cuban was trying hard to spin some pressure back on Nelson, who has been living large as the eighth seed against these Mavericks with a championship-or-bust mandate on the season. "… Whatever happens, (this series in the future) changes him from the underdog to the favorite in a lot of respects. And then all of the expectations change," Cuban said. "You just can't be in hiding. It couldn't happen to a better guy. Now the entire (Bay Area) is going to think he's got to win 60 games and contend for a championship every year. It will be fun to watch."
Someday maybe, but for now the Mavericks must find a way to survive Oracle Arena in Oakland, the loudest, most delirious building the NBA has seen in years. They've waited forever for these Warriors to have one of those seasons, one of these runs, and it will reach a crescendo Thursday night when Game 6 comes to the Bay Area.
"Now, there's a lot of pressure on them," Johnson said. "They got 10,000 pounds on their right arms up there in Oakland. A lot of pressure on them."
Nice try, Avery. But the pressure is on the Mavericks until they complete this jagged journey into the second round.
As they were walking down the corridor late Tuesday, Nelson threw an arm around Davis for a moment and told simply, "Hey, we had a shot at the end," and the understanding was unmistakable: The best team in basketball had to play out of its mind to simply get a No. 8 seed back to its building for a game that Stephen Jackson says these Warriors are going to use to close out the Mavericks, close out a wild basketball blood war.
"The bottom line is that we don't like each other," Matt Barnes sniffed. "We don't like them, they don't like us."
With a wrap on his leg for the hamstring he pulled in the first quarter, Barnes, a journeyman, happened to be the relentless, resolved face of this Golden State team in the losing locker room.
He's the Warrior with the word, "Believe," tattooed on the side of his neck.
If you watched the play, it wasn't a flop. Everyone is fixated on what happened 'up high' on Baron's neck.Yeah JET was just plain foolish with that move. But Davis blatantly flopped, he tried to sell it for more than what it was. Even from the TV angle, looks like JET tried to get him down, but not knock him out. JET does this kinda stuff all the time and I never noticed it or what?
I TIVOed and replayed a couple of times trying to figure out how Baron went down so quick. If you have opportunity to watch the replay, watch down low, Terry combined the hog tie on Baron's neck with a leg sweep on Baron.
That's why Davis went down so fast. Baron really only had weight on one leg at the time and Terry hooked his leg with his own and pulled out the carpet from under Baron.
It was a dirty move all the way around and Terry knew exactly what he was doing.
Last edited by Aggie Hoopsfan; 05-02-2007 at 08:58 AM.
Yeah, this is different from what he said in the locker room, at least according to ESPN radio. From what I heard on the radio while traveling back to Austin, J-Rich denied having said or done anything to the fan and he called the fan a liar.
^Interesting. I gotta invest in this TIVO stuff... @ AGGIE...
and PONKY - did you scream yourself ragged? the fans didnt look too into the game for most of it and i was upset by that. even standing they looked nervous *which i can understand* but you should still support your team 100% no matter what the situation is. sorry, had a rant.
Gah! Can we just get on with discussing Game Six? Spurs fan: "Suspend Terry." Mavs fan: "Nothing to see here, move along."
TIVO will absolutely change your entire NBA viewing experience...I cannot watch games on TV without TIVO, although I do sometimes watch a big game live but I get impatient because I can't TIVO as much.
this is so messed up...ian fitzsimmons interviewed j-rich and he denied it and called the fan a liar...then he also said in a different interview that he doesn't know what happened (how could you not know what happened?) and it was in the heat of the moment...so which is it?
how could you not know what happened if nothing happened???
I have it on DVR and nothing below their waists is even in the frame.
I love the whole "I DVRed it and so and so knew exactly what they were doing" bit, as if no one else has it recorded to call you out on your bull .
I hope, for the sake of the NBA, Richardson does not get suspended. I also hope Terry doesn't get suspended either.
Better to see what these two teams can do in game six with their entire roster available.
In any case, Terry is an idiot and if this were the regular season, I would say suspend the mofo. He is a ing repeat offender.
If Terry is out, then Richardson is out. And vice versa.
Are you really this ing stupid dude?
WOW!!!
Some of the Spurs fans are un ingbelievable...
from what I just heard on the Ticket, Richardson didn't start anything, the fan was trying to hold him back from getting onto the court, and Richardson's "shove" was merely an attempt to get back into the game.
much ado about nothing. drunk fans are stupid.
I guarantee you that Jason Terry will be the only one to get suspended out of all this.
That should quiet the conspiracy theorists.
Then it sounds like there's more of a question of what will happen to Jackson, given that Stern said they would take his past actions into account if he got into trouble again. My guess is a fine and nothing more since his ejection was pretty weak.
If Avery thinks the pressure is on Golden State right now, he hasn't watched this team play much. They're loose as and I don't see that changing on their home floor.
What a ing asshole. Can Don Nelson please have his 6 million bucks or whatever, and end this sillly "he has no balls" rant?!?
Seriously, Mark, it will probably be good for your heart...
Yeah, if anyone gets suspended (and I'm guessing no one will) it will be Terry since he has a history.
AJ is just trying to play mind games but I don't think the Warriors will be too fazed.
I don't blame him for trying
Avery learned from the mind games master. Unfortunately, he's not as good at it.
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