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I would trade barry and scola for dirk and dirk could have his very own tim duncan
Neither the Rockettes nor the Spurs were playing 'fast' except on fast breaks. Both teams operated traditional half court offenses - Spurs through DRob, Rockets through Hakeem.
I would trade barry and scola for dirk and dirk could have his very own tim duncan
People better press that the newspaper submit an apologetic article in light of its misinformed authors.
Mike Finger = Dirk Nowitzki
http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/c...i.3538c10.html
You can email him here
More to the point, where was all this support for DRob when the same "let's run 'im outta town" crowd was seething at DRob for simply re-signing with the Spurs in 2001? Herd mentality and conventional wisdom run amok, just with a different target.
Quoted for cluelessness....
The crowd wasn't mad at DRob...they were mad at the Spurs for attempting to screw him, way to prove you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about...
Mike.
Or just maybe...DRob pretty much had ty teams and coaches...just maybe, that's ing it.
Just maybe, his rep as being a soft choking , is an underserved one...
Just maybe, it was a lottery team without him on it...
I can find worse comparisons if you like...
@ this article.
Not twice. Six times
1994, Indiana d. Orlando, 3-0, rd. 1
1995, Houston d. Orlando, 4-0, NBA Finals
1996, Chicago d. Orlando, 4-0, EC Finals
1998, Utah d. LA Lakers, 4-0, WC Finals
1999, San Antonio d. LA Lakers, 4-0, rd. 2
2007, Chicago d. Miami, 4-0, rd. 1
David's teams never even blew a series they had the lead in(unless it was 1-0)....
And none of them were swept....not even by the Jazz...
And for a guy with no goto move...Drob sure did see a lot of double teams. I wonder why...
I've never yet seen Dirk draw the double and triple teams that Drob did...except in International Compe ion.
How completely and utterly wrong you are. The "crowd" was mad because they saw DRob as taking the money that their "savior" Chris Webber could have had. Robinson was washed up according to the internet posters -- the Spurs only hope was to sign Webber.
We can disagree about opinions, Next time, get your facts right.
What the are you talking about?In the case of DRob and Dirk, the similarities are obvious. They are big men without a consistent "go to" move down low and they were not able to put their teams on their backs.
The differences are also obvious -- DRob didn't have a low post move because he relied strictly on athleticism around the hoop, Dirk because he has a great mid-range jumper. RDob was a great defensive player (who simply couldn't stop the unstoppable Hakeem), Dirk has no D.
The article is uncontroversial and merely acknowledges what many have been observing for years, including Steve Kerr and Dr. Jack Ramsey.
More to the point, where was all this support for DRob when the same "let's run 'im outta town" crowd was seething at DRob for simply re-signing with the Spurs in 2001? Herd mentality and conventional wisdom run amok, just with a different target.
Are you Mike Finger?
The dude wasn't comparing statistics. He wasn't a series performance. He was comparing two players who share a few similar traits, and the point of his piece was that Dirk may be a good player but he cannot win by himself because he is not that type of player.
Y'all are faulting him for using DRob and Duncan, but he is a SAN ANTONIO beat writer. He HAS to use someone like Robinson because he has to relate his point to the local readership. Connect to your audience by using a comparison they understand. Y'all are making a big deal and critiquing something that is almost completely irrelevant to the entire point of the piece.
This discussion should have been about if Dirk can win a le by himself, like the article questioned, and NOT an overextended comparison of Dirk to the names used. It is possible to find fault in anything, and in this case, I guess we have. Too bad is was misplaced and almost completely irrelevant fault. So let's all pat ourselves on the back for being some of the most anal fanboys of any NBA city. God forbid we ever allow a writer to make a point.
Russ is right on. I was one of the people who wanted Webber in 2001, and I was far from alone. That 2001 beatdown from the Lakers made a lot of us want to completely blow up the team, save Duncan.
This is what I was thinking about that article. I thought it was funny that everyone got their panties all in a bunch over it as they obviously missed the point the writer was making.
Bingo.
Is my memory funny or didn't Dave lead the Spurs in scoring all six games, despite being constantly double teamed?
The reason we lost the series was simple, our guys didn't knock down enough open shots, Elliott couldn't guard Drexler to save his life, and Rodman couldn't be bothered to guard anybody because he was too intent on rebounding.
Ironically, the reason we lost the series was . . .
Big Shot Rob! (check out the end of Game 2)
BTW, Rodman was more intent on punishing the Spurs for not offering him a big money deal as he had been "promised" than rebounding or anything else.
wow...this writer is a complete moron...how did they even let this bull get published.
I think you mean Game 1. We were up 2 with Sean at the line to ice the game, and he missed both shots. Then Horry hit a 3 and we lost Game 1. I think Game 2 was more one-sided.
rack the timvp
dirk and David Robinson are two different scenarios. Yeah, David Robinson was outplayed by another player who was playing at a level that was out of this world. shaq choked against Hakeem also, does that come into play?
+ David always had mediocre players (besides Sean Elliot) playing around him for a long time. Olajuwon had, Drexler, Kenny Smith, Otis Thorpe, Sam Cassell, Horry and few others as his supporting cast. David Robinson couldn't do everything. Lame
Um...when Drob said he was thinking about leaving for NY because the Spurs were lowballing him, in one of SA's finer moments there was a near revolt and the team was inudated with calls reaming the team for doing that to David Robinson....and Drob got what he wanted...and thank god he did.
The only people calling for CWebb were a bunch of statheads on message boards.
You need to get your facts straight...Drob owned the Spurs in that negotiation the second he took it public, not that CWebb was going to sign anyway. And thank god he didn't.
And it was game 1...Mr. Fact.
Did you read the article? The word "equally" usually indicates a comparison being made.
That was the point he was trying to get across, but he did so horribly.
That doesn't give him license to get his facts wrong while simultaneously throwing the legacy of David Robinson under the bus. Dirk is the laughing stock of the sporting world and Finger fingered Robinson as a historical comparison.
Finger is the one who went as far as equating their performances. If he wanted to say that Nowitzki needs a superstar next to him to win a championship like Robinson ended up needing, that'd be fine.
What was ridiculous was Finger went beyond that and compared individual series.
God forbid we hold a writer up to the standards of getting facts straight.
Finger obviously didn't watch the 1995 series and anyone who thinks he isn't offbase obviously didn't watch it either.
And as far as that Robinson and Webber situation in 2001, it's true that there were a section of "Spurs fans" who thought Robinson was finished and should be thrown away. But that mostly came from DG and was parroted by his sheep.
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