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    What a frustrating way to lose. The rule is legit, but in a big time game something like that shouldn't keep a team's best player off the floor. There should be a set time limit to get the blood to stop coming out, say 5 minutes, even though that might not have been enough time to get him back in immediately, he could have got in for the last few possessions.

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    What a frustrating way to lose. The rule is legit, but in a big time game something like that shouldn't keep a team's best player off the floor. There should be a set time limit to get the blood to stop coming out, say 5 minutes, even though that might not have been enough time to get him back in immediately, he could have got in for the last few possessions.
    I agree in that it would be nice to be able to avoid a situation like this in the future, although it doesn't happen very often.

    In this sport pace is very important, that's why we don't have instant replay like football, but at the same time we do have it at the end of the game and for the same reason it would be nice to have a rule for players who are bleeding at the end of the game because having a guy like Steve Nash in at the end of the game is that important...

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    What a frustrating way to lose. The rule is legit, but in a big time game something like that shouldn't keep a team's best player off the floor. There should be a set time limit to get the blood to stop coming out, say 5 minutes, even though that might not have been enough time to get him back in immediately, he could have got in for the last few possessions.
    Only trouble is, it isn't fair to the other team, particularly since Nash sustained the cut committing a foul.

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    The blood rule is stupid, and a direct result of piece of Karl Malone's ignorance and whining when Magic returned. There's no risk of HIV infection in playing a basketball game not involving Baron Davis and Dirk Nowitzki. I felt really bad for Nash having to sit out those couple of critical possessions. I'm ecstatic about the win, and I think we take it regardless of whether Nash is playing, but you hate to see them not get the chance.
    Dude, back to HIV Education 101 with you.

    The concept it very simple: "Universal precautions." Assume EVERYONE you encounter is HIV positive and protect yourself accordingly. That means, always wear a condom, and no blood contact whatsoever.

    Pro ball players have a million little cuts on them from all the hits they do/take, and there's no reason to assume anyone isn't HIV positive.

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    Sorry - it's better off the way they played it. At one point he was dripping blood on the court. It was all over his jersey and hands. He was only out for 45 seconds of that last minute. Sucky - it just seemed like a lot longer than it was.

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    Even for scalp or nose the bleeding seemed to go on for a long time.

    Way too long.

    I wonder whether Nash was on some anti-inflammatory drugs.

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    I would have been in favor of calling the game at that point if he couldn't come back in.

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    Even for scalp or nose the bleeding seemed to go on for a long time.

    Way too long.

    I wonder whether Nash was on some anti-inflammatory drugs.

    Eh. I think it had more to do with never staunching the flow in the first place. The bandages were never properly affixed, because of blood and sweat that wasn't properly dried.

    Although they said that they tried a lot of stuff (including the mixture that burned his eyes - remember him washing them out?).

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    The blood rule should be even tougher. There's no way a player should have been allowed on the court with blood pouring like that.

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    If it was used in football b, if something like this happened, they would just use duct tape

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    Taking a Motrin might make some difference, but probably not a lot.

    I got a head lac running into a wall while playing hoops and bled for 45 minutes until I got to an ER.

    That scar was huge, and with the swelling it was just going to be tough to stop.

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    I think it's a good rule, and I was screaming for the Suns to just take Nash to the locker room and get s ches. I felt it was D'Antoni's fault for not giving the team better direction -- "Hey, we're going to win this without Nash. We can do it." At the very least, I thought the Suns had a chance to set themselves up for OT, and Nash might've returned with a s ched up nose ready to make some big shots.

    No excuses here. Good rule. Spurs beat the Suns and, I think, the refs. On to Game 2.

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    Only trouble is, it isn't fair to the other team, particularly since Nash sustained the cut committing a foul.
    Very true. I hate it that this happened in the closing minutes of the game, especially to Nash since he is a classy player.

    Wonder if they would ever allow the blood rule in UFC?

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    I would have been in favor of calling the game at that point if he couldn't come back in.


    Yeah, that would have gone over well.

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    Even for scalp or nose the bleeding seemed to go on for a long time.

    Way too long.

    I wonder whether Nash was on some anti-inflammatory drugs.
    A) Everyone in the NBA is on an anti-inflammatory over the age of 30...nothing wrong with that.

    B) His blood pressure went up as soon as he would step back on the court causing it to start gushing again.

    C) Removing and replacing the band aids probably exacerbated the bleeding.

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    C) Removing and replacing the band aids probably exacerbated the bleeding.
    re ed trainer


    I'm telling you, adhesive tape would have done it. ing idiots.

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    I think the bottom line is the Suns go out and hire a new team doc tomorrow That guy who couldn't stop the bleeding is going to get canned.
    I think that wound required s ches.

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    Only trouble is, it isn't fair to the other team, particularly since Nash sustained the cut committing a foul.
    Not having the MVP in the game in crunch time because of a bloody nose isn't the fairest thing either. This rule is a delicate one, but when it comes down to it the best players should be on the floor if they can and Nash could have been if he was given time.

    The pause might not have benefited the Spurs, but it wouldn't do much for the Suns shooters either.

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    I didn't read the thread but ...

    1. D'Antoni should have sent him to the locker room immediately, then they could have gotten the blood stopped and the trainer s ched him. I'm not sure who f'd up - but he would have missed a lot less time if that happened, instead of trying to dab it with a tissue and sending him right back in.

    2. The Suns were probably just as good today with Barbosa on the floor as they were with Nash on the floor, so if Nash was in, it probably wouldn't have changed the game's outcome.

    3. The Spurs were already up when he got hurt - so it's not like the Suns lost a lead because he was out.

    Overall my thoughts are that the Suns must have a crap training staff.

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    I don't know, maybe it would have helped to just put some gauze and a lot of pressure for as long as possible then bandage it, seemed like he underestimated the ammount of blood that was going to come out...

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    I think the bottom line is the Suns go out and hire a new team doc tomorrow That guy who couldn't stop the bleeding is going to get canned.
    The best cut man in boxing couldn't stop that gash. I'd think he'll need a few s ches.

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    I got a head lac running into a wall while playing hoops
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    Eh. I think it had more to do with never staunching the flow in the first place. The bandages were never properly affixed, because of blood and sweat that wasn't properly dried.

    Although they said that they tried a lot of stuff (including the mixture that burned his eyes - remember him washing them out?).
    Under these cir stances there is nothing the physicians could have done.

    It's just back luck.

    If the Suns even faintly think that this is reason why they lost, they are in trouble.
    And I really wonder whether D'antoni is the best man to erase that thinking.........

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    I think it's a good rule, and I was screaming for the Suns to just take Nash to the locker room and get s ches. I felt it was D'Antoni's fault for not giving the team better direction --
    Well not just that, but at that point it became a distraction. The whole time everybody on the Suns bench is paying attention to Nash. Meanwhile the Spurs are talking about the game plan and staying focused. If I'm a suns fan I'm pissed at D'antoni for not sending him to the locker room after assessing the situation and getting my squad focused and in the game.

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    The best cut man in boxing couldn't stop that gash.
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    I could have gotten Nash in with a band aid and a few layers of adhesive tape.

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