Of course you don't, your best player was on the court for more than 19 minutes.
Ok, so you've got a problem with #4.
Which of the other 4 did you take issue with?
Additionally, he could have come right back in to start the second quarter, but they went with Diaw for awhile instead. That's on D'Antoni (and it wasn't a bad decision - Diaw was hot).
I'm crying tears of joy.
Duncan and Horry combined on a perfectly clean block that was called a foul. Duncan got away with a foul that was called a block. Ginobli had his eye almost ripped out and it wasn't called. Stoudamire got called on one he didn't deserve. Nash got a basket and foul when obviously nobody touched him. Same thing for Ginobli when he blew a layup and got bailed out. Lots of missed calls. A tough physical game. I don't think the calls favored one over the other, but the team that loses will always believe they were cheated. Just look at the comments on any board for any team after they lose and they always complain that the calls went against them.
Bottom line, Suns were hot early and built a lead. Spurs were cold. Suns cooled off, Spurs heated up and Tim Duncan was the best player on the floor and his team won the game.
If I hadn't grown attached to the Spurs a few years ago, there's no way in I'd still be watching the NBA. No doubt in my mind. Spurs games are the only ones I watch. I can't stand the NBA's bull fouls. The officiating plays too big a part in the game, and I don't think it's all completely their fault.
I ask myself and others this question: Have the officials changed so drastically since the 80s/90s, or should the current players receive a lot of the blame?
What do you guys think?
The players have gradually changed what is considered a foul, and what is not, by becoming addicted to drawing fouls and going to the line. They all want to create contact, to flop, to go to the line. I don't want to debate who are the biggest floppers and acters, I know Manu is one of them, but I'm not here to debate this...we all know most players try to in some way draw fouls.
Back in the day, or on a different level such as a pick up game at the park, if you give a pump fake and cause the defender to jump, you took a dribble or two to the side and took an open jumper. Or you drove to the lane and tried to score or feed someone else. But that's what it was about, faking the defender out and capitalizing on it. NOW, you never see this. NBA players now jump into the airborne defender or whail their arms into theirs.
Because I have it fresh in memory from tonight's game, I'll recall when Nash tried to draw that charge on Tim. So many NBA players try that crap where the guy in Duncan's situation had no idea of Nash because his eyes were back at the ball, and they turn around and get called for a charge for inadvertently turning into a guy who leaned into him. Crap like this pisses me off. On other levels, if a guy is driving the lane, you jump up and try to block or contest the shot. That's basketball. NOW, it's all about flopping and drawing a fabricated foul. I hate this .
I could make an endless list of stupid that NBA players have increasingly incorporated that just flat out ruins the ing game. A lot of people about the refs, but the players are also being es. Fans in turn get accustomed to the bull that's considered a foul, and in turn they like fools at every opportunity during a game. So I'm not sure if the refs are completely to blame, if it's what the players and the fans want for the game, so be it. I just don't think it's basketball anymore.
The officiating appeared noticeabily more favorable to the Spurs this evening.
Agreed.
I said the same thing in the game blog.
Only homers wil not see this fact.
So do you think that the Suns actually should have won?
And you'd love to have him on your team defending the league's top players.
Should have won? Going too far. Could have won? Definitely.
I actually thought that we were going to get called for alot of bullcrap calls to tell you the truth.
But its not! Na, na na na na!
He's smart enough to stay on the court. Amare is a real dunderhead sometimes. That fifth foul was positively Gumpish. When you have four fouls, and have been pretty much chained to the bench, YOU LET TIM DUNCAN FLUSH ON THAT PICK AND ROLL. The TV guys called him out for both missing his rotation and fouling stupidly, a rarity against a Sun. There was at least one other stupid one, that if they were removed, he may have played 35-40 minutes.
We did get a lot more calls going our way but heyyy we've had games where NOTHING goes our way so I'll take this win without saying anything.
Well, sure, if you don't count all of the no-calls when Thomas had a double handful of Duncan's jersey about every time down in the paint...
The Suns were trying to play a physical game, which is not their thing. They got a lot of foul calls, but at LEAST as many no calls that could have been fouls.
Several of Amare's fouls reflected poor awareness of the game situation. His fourth foul was the only questionable one.
The Achilles heel for Amare is that he is not very smart, and won't be heady in those situations. You can't trust him to play in foul trouble. His fifth foul was a prime example of that.
Nice to see some others admit it, even though they are Spurs fans. Regardless of the fact that your team may have gotten some favorable calls, your team still had to take advantage of those calls and close the game out. The Spurs did, props to them.
I've been thinking about this a little more.
We went to the line 9 more times. One of those was a technical on D'Antoni, so it doesn't count. 8 more times. They got whistled for 2 more fouls than us.
I guess the thing that strikes me is what I see people telling Spurs fans when they complain about the calls - a good player/coach/team will play through the calls and adjust. If the calls were favoring the Spurs, it was up to the Suns to adjust. If Amare was getting whistled, he should have adjusted. We could argue back and forth about whether or not he deserved #4, but the fact is that he shouldn't have picked up #5. A smart player wouldn't have made that foul. It was on Amare to adjust to the way the game was being called, and he failed to do so. It then became in bent on D'Antoni and the other players to adjust to the way the game was being called, and they failed to do so.
The game was hardly lopsided in favor of the Spurs, as the officiating was in game 2 of the Dallas/GS series, for instance. We had 4 players with 4 fouls. So it wasn't exactly a gimme for the Spurs, you know? We saw Manu being mugged time and again and Timmy being undressed with no calls.
But on the larger theory of plain good officiating, yes, the officials should not interrupt the flow, should let players play, and should call things evenly and fairly on both sides. Was it tonight? It was not bad enough to attract my notice during the game. Homer or not, that was how I saw it.
Even with the no-calls on Thomas, the Spurs got the benefit of the majority of the calls.
#5 on Amare was stupid on his part, he should have just conceded the dunk. What bugs me is that two minutes later, Amare goes for a dunk and is fouled in the same manner by Duncan, yet no whistle. Amare is young and will learn how to stay on the court. He'll also be very scary when he does.
Horrible officiating both ways. I've seen better officiating in the WWF.
I believe the original point of this thread was directed at Spurs fans, not the Spurs players.
COME BACK NEXT SEASON WHEN YOUR TEAM IS PLAYIN!
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