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those are some bandwagoning grades right there.
That'd probably still in the D to D- range.
I don't think a C is glorifying him that much. He supplied a lot of the toughness out there and was in the closing lineup. He can play a lot better ... but as we saw last postseason, he can play a lot worse.
those are some bandwagoning grades right there.
In this case, it's accurate. Any benefit of the doubt I might have been giving him dried up with that choked dunk attempt. I hate him more than you do now. I have no patience for mentally weak players.
You said it better than I did.
Actually, I think Barry was very important in this game. When he came in and hit that 3, it instantly changed the overall feel of that game.
I'm glad he did well...we really needed that!
wtf are you laughing at.. your ass can't even show up to a gtg.
He was at the GTG tonight. I tried calling Hill Country Lanes but they said they didn't see you . . .
bs... solid D is a wuss bag.. a hider.. chicken .
I was at home with the Klan throwing down....
At least LJ is coming around to agreeing with me about Tony. His defensive work on the opposing point is more of a factor in our wins/losses than how many points he scores.
The team doesn't need Tony to be all world, we just need him to compete on both ends. When he takes that Steve Nash, "I can conserve energy on defense" mentality, we're in trouble.
Here are some pics of me at the GTG, although I don't photograph well.
The Spurs don't win Game 1 if Parker only plays defense. The Spurs are down 10+ in this game at half if he doesn't attack in the first half.
Parker, like Ginobili, is best when relentlessly attacking. Parker has done a good job in these playoffs of carrying that over to both ends of the court.
Of course, he actually has to have the assignment in order for that to happen.
The Spurs don't win Game 1 if Parker only plays defense. The Spurs are down 10+ in this game at half if he doesn't attack in the first half.
Parker, like Ginobili, is best when relentlessly attacking. Parker has done a good job in these playoffs of carrying that over to both ends of the court.
If that emoticon was an offer LJ, I'm flattered but uninterested. What would Kori think?
Let's get Game 4 and finish these es off...
The only form of payment timvp accepts is a Spurs victory.
Well I suppose the 10k I was going to send you will just have to be blown on strippers...
Thanks Timvp for your giving us great insight about players performance.
Anyway, grades based on "potential" seem a little confusing for some people, like me.
Could it be possible you give us "potential" or "expectations" for every player for these playoffs: is "potential" the best a player can achieve? Or its average game?
And if a player reach is potential in a game, what it's due grade: A or B or C?
C could be it if we take Horry's grade: "Horry struggled much of the game but like usual, came through with a clutch three-pointer in the fourth quarter. His defense was sub par and he had a couple bad decisions offensively, but the effort was there and he was playing tough." Though it seems Horry was a little bit under his average game.
And Duncan: if Duncan is Duncan - this year's Duncan - how much he has to produce to earn a A or a B or a C?
I know it's hard to evaluate because all the stuff that doesn't appear in the stats sheet.
And again, many thanks.
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Please don't give up on Elson yet... He wil come back stronger!
All true on Manu, but don't forget his 3 steals and 4 dimes. Those were some nice steals. I like me some motha in' Manu steals.
Horry deserves a higher grade and I would put Parker as a B.
I think Barry's grade is justified. Dude was +15 in Game 3. He benefitted from sharing the floor with Ginobili during his late 3rd explosion, but Barry played just enough minutes (and perceptibly did just enough while on the floor) to make me think that he actually played a big role in that turnaround.
I don't think the Spurs played nearly as well as they can play.
Tim Duncan- Easily with a A+. There's not much you can say except he was great.
Manu- For Manu standards I can only give him a B. He's still missing easy layups. However, his defense was outstanding. I watched a few minutes of the first half again and I saw Manu playing Steve Nash a lot.
Tony- C+. He needs more assist. I guess it's always going to be difficult for Tony, but when there's no flow to the Spurs offense it would be great if Tony could get easy buckets for players.
Elson- F. I missed 10 minutes of the game, so maybe he did well during those 10 minutes. However, from what I saw the guy stunk.
Fin- Hustle and effort was there and he did hit two big shots. He just had an off night. He gets a C+.
Horry- Dang this dude needs to hustle sometimes. He hit a huge 3 and played some good D. C+
Brent- I gotta give him a B+. He had a couple of rough patches, but overall he was very good. He can do better so I can't give him an A.
Oberto- all the hustle in the world. B+
Jacque- this is not the series for him.
Bruce- it goes without being said, A+. 9 freakin rbs!!!!!
Last edited by 2centsworth; 05-13-2007 at 11:52 AM.
To be fair, he has no choice from his current position.
Good job with the grades. I'm glad someone stays sober during the games.
I told you people that Manu would be back in this game.
True. You only show up when Manu scores over 20.
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