Roy Bragg: Dear Phoenix, Shut up already!

[violentkitten]

i could say you are a redneck aggie fan with a bad case of internets diarrhea but i won't stoop to your level.

[michaelwcho]

I have never been to Phoenix, so talking about the city would be stupid.
All I know it is hot and dry most of the year, being in a desert and all. One of the oldest cities on earth is in a desert (Cairo).
BTW, is the Salt river the main river going through the city?

There's no river in Phoenix Well, I guess there must be a Salt River, but I've never seen it...it's probably more like an arroyo or wabi than a river.

However, there are some canals that used to irrigate the many citrus groves, that were bulldozed to make room for multi-million dollar houses. And nowadays we keep making lakes and erecting expensive condos on the shores. I feel sorry for whatever state we're stealing all this water from!

[judaspriestess]

No offense but this guy comes off as a colossal self-righteous . We get it, people have different opinions on the suspensions. The game is already over, Amare and Boris are back, and everybody needs to shut the up about this topic.

And for the record, the articles coming from Phoenix about how the Spurs are satan incarnate are equally annoying and y.

This is the first article I've read that is reaking of homerism and guess what nozzle its part of the game. You're the second suns of es fan to used the word y its a dumb word, its like saying its colonicy

[judaspriestess]

I forgot to add this article is HILARIOUS

[Vito Corleone]

Not everyone who is actually from Phoenix (me) agrees with all the bags on those message boards. But the Suns are the first franchise in Phoenix, the most successful and a really good bunch of guys, so of course we support them.

However, these lame attempts to call out those bandwagon fans who know nothing about basketball and try to place blame on everybody else is getting ridiculous. Spurs fans could point to championship banners and prior success, but they'd rather keep ing about Suns fans and players for reasons I can't fathom. Maybe it's because the Spurs are headed home and up 3-2, so they feel a little self-righteous, but I still can't put a finger on it.

The stereotyping of the entire fanbase as poodle-wearing whatever whatever blah, blah and ripping on the city/state is taking an extremely low road. Shawn Marion never clotheslined Manu, either. Jesus, is it time to bring in Cuban to rip on the Riverwalk and then for the rest of us to call you all fat, ugly, pigs who live in a town with terrible roads, and with a stadium placed in a part of town known for warring Mexican/black gangs?

But I won't do that, because it's stooping to your level.

I will agree that the Suns are a team of good citizens and as a Spurs fan there is not one I would not want on my team, but the problem I have and most Spurs fans have with them is that they get in front of the mike before and after the game and whine and whine and whine about how dirty the Spurs are and how unfair things turned out. We have video proof that the Suns are dishing it out as much as they are taking it when it comes to dirty, but you have never heard a word from a Spur coach or player against them. It is called professionalism. Have the Spurs played dirty, at times they have, but so has everyone in the league.

The problem isn't the dirty play, the problem is the whinning to the media. You see the Suns fans read this crap and accept it as gospel truth and then they start to whine and whine and whine, it makes the whole lot of you look like a bunch of poodle walking Sheilas.

What Suns fans are not doing is asking why the Suns are whining so much? It is not to sound like little es, but to get an edge. They do it not because it is true but because it plants seeds in the minds of the refs that can later help to get fouls called in their favor.

Finally the part that really gets me is the cry of unfairness in the suspensions. Guess what there is nothing unfail about this. Unfair happened in 97 when over half the Knicks were suspended for this very same rule in their playoff series against the Miami Heat. The Knicks were leading in that series and ended up losing in seven games. Since that time the rule has been there and everyone has known about it, nothing was changed to help the Knicks and nothing should have changed in this case. Anyone who says it opens the door to thugs attacking star players in a hope of getting the other team suspended still does not understand the rule. If that really did happen nothing has changed, it is still up to the players on the bench to stay there and not leave, this is called restraint.

If San Antonio goes on to win this series, it will not be tainted nor will it be unfair. The Suspensions affected one game in 7 for them, the Suspension is affecting San Antonio for 2 games. The series is decided when one team wins 4 games. What the Suns need to do is look in the mirror and see if they can figure out why San Antonio won the other 3 games. If Pheonix wins San Antonio will have to do the same.

[Obstructed_View]

Countered with extremely high TX property taxes... :untoast.

Yep. Artificially high. You have to go down to the tax office and once a year to get them to drop it. It's a state income tax on the lazy.

[ForeignFan]

this paper is rather funny (thought it goes way too far) but it is about time to get over this crap

[kyle macy]

I will agree that the Suns are a team of good citizens and as a Spurs fan there is not one I would not want on my team, but the problem I have and most Spurs fans have with them is that they get in front of the mike before and after the game and whine and whine and whine about how dirty the Spurs are and how unfair things turned out. We have video proof that the Suns are dishing it out as much as they are taking it when it comes to dirty, but you have never heard a word from a Spur coach or player against them. It is called professionalism. Have the Spurs played dirty, at times they have, but so has everyone in the league.

The problem isn't the dirty play, the problem is the whinning to the media. You see the Suns fans read this crap and accept it as gospel truth and then they start to whine and whine and whine, it makes the whole lot of you look like a bunch of poodle walking Sheilas.

What Suns fans are not doing is asking why the Suns are whining so much? It is not to sound like little es, but to get an edge. They do it not because it is true but because it plants seeds in the minds of the refs that can later help to get fouls called in their favor.

Finally the part that really gets me is the cry of unfairness in the suspensions. Guess what there is nothing unfail about this. Unfair happened in 97 when over half the Knicks were suspended for this very same rule in their playoff series against the Miami Heat. The Knicks were leading in that series and ended up losing in seven games. Since that time the rule has been there and everyone has known about it, nothing was changed to help the Knicks and nothing should have changed in this case. Anyone who says it opens the door to thugs attacking star players in a hope of getting the other team suspended still does not understand the rule. If that really did happen nothing has changed, it is still up to the players on the bench to stay there and not leave, this is called restraint.

If San Antonio goes on to win this series, it will not be tainted nor will it be unfair. The Suspensions affected one game in 7 for them, the Suspension is affecting San Antonio for 2 games. The series is decided when one team wins 4 games. What the Suns need to do is look in the mirror and see if they can figure out why San Antonio won the other 3 games. If Pheonix wins San Antonio will have to do the same.

The truth is, Phoenix is a very transient city and for the most part, residents don't care about a team unless they win. We are the biggest bandwagon city in the world, just look at the Diamondbacks attendance records for proof. My dad took me to Suns games as a kid and we had a great time until they won 55 games in 88 or 89. Since then, Suns games have been an event for people to be seen. The regular season games suck ass at the arena as no one gives a , they just want to wear their Tommy Bahama shirts and parade off their women's fake s. I am now fortunate enough to be able to afford to go to games, but I have more fun watching them on tv at home. I hope by the time this series is over, you guys will realize that not all of Phoenix is whining over the BS some of the Suns players, their owner, and all the bandwagon fans are pulling.

[judaspriestess]

The truth is, Phoenix is a very transient city and for the most part, residents don't care about a team unless they win. We are the biggest bandwagon city in the world, just look at the Diamondbacks attendance records for proof. My dad took me to Suns games as a kid and we had a great time until they won 55 games in 88 or 89. Since then, Suns games have been an event for people to be seen. The regular season games suck ass at the arena as no one gives a , they just want to wear their Tommy Bahama shirts and parade off their women's fake s. I am now fortunate enough to be able to afford to go to games, but I have more fun watching them on tv at home. I hope by the time this series is over, you guys will realize that not all of Phoenix is whining over the BS some of the Suns players, their owner, and all the bandwagon fans are pulling.

oh my god, I think I'm getting aroused reading your posts.

[UV Ray]

A BRICK through the bus window.

[RonMexico]

Yep. Artificially high. You have to go down to the tax office and once a year to get them to drop it. It's a state income tax on the lazy.

Exactly. (Btw, I need to do that this month.)

And I've decided something - OV has the angriest picture of Tim Duncan out there as his avatar which is completely appropriate given the anger of some of your posts.

Really adds the extra edge you need.

[Obstructed_View]

The truth is, Phoenix is a very transient city and for the most part, residents don't care about a team unless they win. We are the biggest bandwagon city in the world, just look at the Diamondbacks attendance records for proof. My dad took me to Suns games as a kid and we had a great time until they won 55 games in 88 or 89. Since then, Suns games have been an event for people to be seen. The regular season games suck ass at the arena as no one gives a , they just want to wear their Tommy Bahama shirts and parade off their women's fake s. I am now fortunate enough to be able to afford to go to games, but I have more fun watching them on tv at home. I hope by the time this series is over, you guys will realize that not all of Phoenix is whining over the BS some of the Suns players, their owner, and all the bandwagon fans are pulling.

Dude, you just described Dallas. Mavs games became the place to be seen when Stars games became gauche.

[Obstructed_View]

And I've decided something - OV has the angriest picture of Tim Duncan out there as his avatar which is completely appropriate given the anger of some of your posts.

Really adds the extra edge you need.

It's the playoffs. Take no prisoners, accept no excuses. Win four with who's on the floor and go on.