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    population wise yes. according to the 2005 census.

    a difference of 42,684 people.

    compared to DFW. forget about it.
    Sorry, I was being ironical.

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    Back in the old days didn't the ticket agents buy up all the tickets? I guess they don't even bother anymore?

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    Sorry, I was being ironical.

    and i played right into it with dry wit.


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    San Antonio just kissed the NFL goodbye for the next 25 years. The NFL would laugh at an owner who wanted to bring a team to a city that couldn't sell out Western Conference Finals tickets.

    And the way it's looking, I'm not sure the Spurs can survive here long-term. You can't sell out WCF, WTF is going to happen when the Spurs suck again?

    St. Louis.
    i've thought about that a lot the past few years...i am not so sure the Spurs can survive here long term. two reasons:

    1. we have won too much
    2. its san antonio

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    im scared.

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    Given all the bad press this is getting they will probably just give a bunch of seats away rather than face another playoff game with a ton of empty seats.

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    So I ask a similar question to the one I asked earlier: Have the Spurs been raising ticket prices for each round of the playoffs? Have they been raising ticket prices for the last few years since they opened the new arena? If so, isn't it just possible that they've overestimated what the market will bear because they were anticipating that Dallas would be the opponent rather than Utah? How is that on the fans, again?

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    Back in the old days didn't the ticket agents buy up all the tickets? I guess they don't even bother anymore?
    Ticket agents bought a ton of them. That's why there's so many on ebay.

    And there's also about another 1,000 available on Ticket Exchange.

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    So I ask a similar question to the one I asked earlier: Have the Spurs been raising ticket prices for each round of the playoffs? Have they been raising ticket prices for the last few years since they opened the new arena? If so, isn't it just possible that they've overestimated what the market will bear because they were anticipating that Dallas would be the opponent rather than Utah? How is that on the fans, again?
    Yes, ticket prices raise each round of the playoffs. It's always like that.

    Tickets started at $25 each (face value) for this series.

    I don't know if they raised prices over last year - If I remember correctly, they raised the prices of the lower level seats and lowered some of the prices in the upper level. (I'm not positive but I remember something like that.)

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    The product on the court hasn't diminished over the last decade, but can the same be said about the product/experience around the team? Going to a game isn't isolated to on-court action, but parking, line-of-sight, facilities, cost of eating, the quality of the 'entertainment', all are part of the package of going to a game.

    I'm not saying that the product on the court isn't the overriding concern to go to a game, but the overall experience has to be taken into account as well.

    It's been three years since I went to a game (for other reasons), so I might not be as up-to-date on the facilities as others here.

    The AT&T Center, when it opened was nice to visit and watch games, but it was lacking personality. The line-of-sight was nice, but crowd noise seemed muted. And lets be honest, the ancillary aspects of the show sucked (and from what I understand still suck). Not only that, the location of the AT&T center wasn't exactly that great; impossible to get to and lousy parking. Has it improved since then?

    What I'm driving at is, shame on the fans for not supporting the Spurs. But as others have said, shouldn't the Spurs organization take a hard look at what they're doing to see what improvements they can make to the overall product?

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    What were sales like for the Nuggets and Suns series, did they sell out right away or was it gameday and still lots of tickets unsold?

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    What were sales like for the Nuggets and Suns series, did they sell out right away or was it gameday and still lots of tickets unsold?

    I'd assume they sold out fast since melo and iverson were coming to town

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    ... impossible to get to and lousy parking. Has it improved since then?
    I'm not sure what you mean by this.

    It's very easy to get to - it's right off the freeway. Parking is very easy and much cheaper and closer to the arena than most other NBA facilities.

    And lets be honest, the ancillary aspects of the show sucked (and from what I understand still suck).
    Does this mean halftime shows? Yes, they still suck

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    I'm not sure what you mean by this.

    It's very easy to get to - it's right off the freeway. Parking is very easy and much cheaper and closer to the arena than most other NBA facilities.
    IIRC, exits to and from the game used to back-up a lot, there was also that odd bottle neck problem going into the arena, that might have been a by-product of getting that access road fixed though. Access to the arena though, was limited to that one intersection, which would back up a lot (again IIRC).

    Parking was poorly laid-out and difficult to navigate, with a lot of bottle necks forming. But yah, parking prices were relatively in-expensive at the time.

    But you know, I could just be being insanely nit-picky.

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    I was so freakin hung over from saturday night i barely had time to brush my teath b4 this past sundays game and ppl were already showing up @ my house

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    Does this mean halftime shows? Yes, they still suck
    Damn. There is a thin line between endearingly kitschy and "Watching weird Uncle Al get drunk and dance" pathetic, the Spurs have teetering there for a while. Ah well, at least in five years when everything from the late 90s becomes classic, they'll be retro cool.

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    IIRC, exits to and from the game used to back-up a lot, there was also that odd bottle neck problem going into the arena, that might have been a by-product of getting that access road fixed though. Access to the arena though, was limited to that one intersection, which would back up a lot (again IIRC).

    Parking was poorly laid-out and difficult to navigate, with a lot of bottle necks forming. But yah, parking prices were relatively in-expensive at the time.

    But you know, I could just be being insanely nit-picky.
    I'm guessing the traffic problems you are talking about were relative to access roads being fixed. There's several ways to get in and out of arena - not just one road/intersection.

    The parking situation is pretty basic and always has been since the arena opened. Of course it's crowded as soon as the game ends, but it's not excessive. You can park in any of the arena lots, several offsite lots across AT&T Parkway and across Houston Street. Or just in street parking on the side streets.

    But I guess my real point was .. what has changed from last year to this year? Or the year before to this year?

    There's nothing "worse" about going to a Spurs game now. So it's weird that WCF tickets aren't selling.

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    i think we have the worse home crowd of any winning team, watching all the games on tv are boring cause the fans that go just sit there.....last year sean elliot had to make an excuse for one game, saying that the a/c wasn't working so the fans were to hot to cheer....... so no point in going if you ain't gonna scream your ass off, so i'm not surprised these games haven't sold out

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    I'm guessing the traffic problems you are talking about were relative to access roads being fixed. There's several ways to get in and out of arena - not just one road/intersection.

    The parking situation is pretty basic and always has been since the arena opened. Of course it's crowded as soon as the game ends, but it's not excessive. You can park in any of the arena lots, several offsite lots across AT&T Parkway and across Houston Street. Or just in street parking on the side streets.

    But I guess my real point was .. what has changed from last year to this year? Or the year before to this year?

    There's nothing "worse" about going to a Spurs game now. So it's weird that WCF tickets aren't selling.
    Ah ok, it sounds like it's pretty good now, my mistake!

    I'm just curious, but is there any info on tracking sales? Like from the move to the Alamodome to the AT&T? And each subsequent year? I'd like to see which demographic has declined the most as a percent of overall sales. It just seems weird that success would equal less sales, it's almost counter-intuitive.

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    See, the Spurs brand of ball is so boring, that you can't fill your own building during the playoffs!

    I bet if the Suns played an exhibition in S.A., you would have a sellout.

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    See, the Spurs brand of ball is so boring, that you can't fill your own building during the playoffs!

    I bet if the Suns played an exhibition in S.A., you would have a sellout.
    Sucks when trolls are speaking the truth.

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    See, the Spurs brand of ball is so boring, that you can't fill your own building during the playoffs!

    I bet if the Suns played an exhibition in S.A., you would have a sellout.
    The only way the Suns get into the game in San Antonio is if they buy a ticket.

    When one of these little bitter dip s comes back here who can't blame his own team for ing up, it just makes the satisfaction of beating their asses all the more sweet.

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    I'm not a troll. More of a sociologist or scientist attempting to ascertain just what kind of mentality Spurs fans possess to believe that Phoenix wasn't cheated and the Spurs' "victory" isn't tainted.

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    Seriously, what could possibly be the reason here?

    Are you waiting for Lisa Marie Presley to show up again?

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    I'm not a troll. More of a sociologist or scientist attempting to ascertain just what kind of mentality Spurs fans possess to believe that Phoenix wasn't cheated and the Spurs' "victory" isn't tainted.
    We won, you lost. Go complain to Amare and Diaw. It's their fault they got suspended.

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