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When TONY WILL GET A 3POINT JUMPSHOOT (That means maybe never) HE WILL DESTROY EVERYONE IN THE NBA EVEN JORDAN.
As I said you have to see deron in spurs system to realize he's a BULL .
TONY in jazz team would average 40 and 10.
The only thing deron can do is shooting WHEN THE GAME IS OVER OR WHEN HE HAS A FLU SO HE CAN BE THE QUEEN OF THE PUSSIES AND SAY THAT HE'S A GOD EVEN HE PLAYS ON ONE LEG.
I mean deron is a SG not a PG.
When TONY WILL GET A 3POINT JUMPSHOOT (That means maybe never) HE WILL DESTROY EVERYONE IN THE NBA EVEN JORDAN.
Williams averaged over 9 assists a game this year and is averaging around 9 assists in this years playoffs, Im pretty sure hes a point guard. Dont pretend that Deron isnt a badass player
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TP isn't guarding Williams. The whole damn comment is null, worthless, and shows the guy doesn't know what he's talking about to boot. I've seen MB post this twice now and yet here is this thread.
That might be the most flawed sentence I've ever seen. First of all, in the regular season, point guards against the Spurs average fewer points and shoot for a worse percentage than against any other team in the league. In the playoffs, when has a point guard ever had their best playoff series with Parker guarding him?Bill Simmons: I'm a huge fan of Williams, but let's not get carried away - he's doing this against Tony Parker (who's made many a PG look like a Hall of Famer over the years) and Bruce Bowen (who doesn't have the foot speed to stay in front of PG's anymore).
I don't think it's ever happened. And most of the time, it's an unfair fight because the opposing point guard can't even defend Parker so they have to put someone else on him.
Deron Williams is having a monster series ... but he's being defended by Bowen.
Which brings up the stupidness of the quote that "Bowen doesn't have the foot speed to say in front of PG's anymore". Since when did Bowen ever guard point guards? He used to switch off onto them for maybe a quarter or so, but these are the first playoffs where he was assigned to guard point guards. And how many 6-foot-7 players in the history of the league could guard Nash or Williams at any age?
I don't blame Simmons too much though because I'm sure he hasn't watched basketball much since justice prevailed and the Celtics got the fifth pick.
Why isn't this thread lock...at least the Kobe one was entertaining...we should seriously lock every thread on spurstalk
OK You're right he's not a badass but hen isn't certainly a master.
And I mean tony would average 9 assists too if he was jazz's pg.
He's already averaging 7 with the spurs which is a miracle.
All i know is Parker is the best point guard in the NBA. I've been telling you ding dongs for years, but you're too dumb to figure it out.
[ rob (philly): I think the United States Basketball team has their PG for the next 2 Olympics. His name is Deron Williams.
Bill Simmons: I'm a huge fan of Williams, but let's not get carried away - he's doing this against Tony Parker (who's made many a PG look like a Hall of Famer over the years) and Bruce Bowen (who doesn't have the foot speed to stay in front of PG's anymore). Chris Paul would be ripping the Spurs up just the same. ]
You heard it here first. TP is showing us AGAIN,that he is not reliable when the Big Dance comes to town. So trade him now while teams still think he is a top 5 PG. Find someone who can CONSISTENTLY do it on both ends of the floor, or a stud SF.
Lol you are reminding me of one of those orangebloods.com posters right now.
That might be the most flawed sentence I've ever seen. First of all, in the regular season, point guards against the Spurs average fewer points and shoot for a worse percentage than against any other team in the league. In the playoffs, when has a point guard ever had their best playoff series with Parker guarding him?
I don't think it's ever happened. And most of the time, it's an unfair fight because the opposing point guard can't even defend Parker so they have to put someone else on him.
Deron Williams is having a monster series ... but he's being defended by Bowen.
Which brings up the stupidness of the quote that "Bowen doesn't have the foot speed to say in front of PG's anymore". Since when did Bowen ever guard point guards? He used to switch off onto them for maybe a quarter or so, but these are the first playoffs where he was assigned to guard point guards. And how many 6-foot-7 players in the history of the league could guard Nash or Williams at any age?
I don't blame Simmons too much though because I'm sure he hasn't watched basketball much since justice prevailed and the Celtics got the fifth pick.
So what's your take on Williams? I'm just curious because there are so many people here criticizing his game when it's obvious they've only seen two series out of him, at most.
buddy...Deron Williams is a better all around PG than Tony, that's a no brainer....Tony however is among the best PGs no doubt, but this kid Deron is amazing.
Tony is definitely emerging, but I beg to ask the question....Would we have won more les up until this point if we would have signed J-Kidd that summer? I say yes but speaking as of today, I am glad we didn't make the move b/c Tony has a much longer and brighter future, but I felt at the time we needed to make a move while Duncan was playing at his peak.
Parker uses Kidd like the skidmarks in his underwear.... NEXT....
I'd take Parker over any PG currently in the league right now. STHU
So even though Tony averaged more points, less turnovers and shot a higher fg% in 4 less minutes a game this season Deron is clearly better because of one series. Dumb
OK SO TELL ME WHY HE IS SO AMAZING?
I Mean the only thing i see on the court is a obese kid shooting,and shooting,and shooting and pick and rolling, pick and rolling and picke and rolling...
He only know two systems: shooting(is it a system?) and pick and roll with the real star of the jazz team: carlos boozer.
I'll take players who rise to the occasion any day. Deron will naturally shoot a lower % b/c he is more of a jump shooter. And less TOs in less minutes would make sense, so that statement was silly.
This is so silly to act like Deron is not a great PG....that's why you don't have a job in the media and the experts who watch all the NBA not just the spurs all agree that this kid is a superstar.
And I'm sorry but with Timmy it's pretty hard to have a good assist statistic :when you give him a great assist to a tunnel,he is blocked by boozer ha ha ha aha
Also you always fail to mention this.....Parker has the best player in the league alongside him which makes his life a whole lot easier.
Actually I'm happy that I don't have a job in the media when you see some es like bill simmons being so smart and right.
He's damn good. For a player of his age to be doing what he's doing against the Spurs is amazing.
He probably is better than Tony Parker as far as an individual basis. But there's not much shame in that since Williams is playing like he'll be the best point guard in the league in a couple seasons and a top five player before long.
Parker is a very good fit for what the Spurs need and he's a two-time champion and a two-time all-star at the age of 25. He's also a better defender and a probably a better scorer. Williams is probably a better playmaker and plays in a system better suited to showcase a point guard.
Players like Parker, Manu and Bowen aren't close to be the best players at their position in the NBA, but it doesn't really matter. Winning is all that's remembered and those three players give the Spurs a damn good shot at winning night in and night out.
I agree, this is a pretty dumb idea. Tony's defense has been his biggest improvement this season and he's probably a top 5 defender at his position now. The only PGs in the league I'd trade Tony for are Williams and Paul, and they won't be available, so it's moot.
And before any haters come at me, yes I'd trade Manu for LeBron or Wade...
The one statement I disagree with though is I doubt Tony will be a Spur for life, no matter how our management or fans feel about him. I think one his deal is up he's heading for shinier pastures out west.
Wouldnt rising to the occasion include wins? So according to your logic Amare>>>Tim right?
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