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    The only reason why I still put the Bulls over the Spurs is because of 3 more les, maybe just 2 more, and those dominating seasons, including quite possibly the greatest single season team ever with 72-10 regular season. The Spurs could catch them however with a few more seasons, thats to be seen.

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    Yeah but still...the Sixers have been around for 60 years and have one of the best winning PCT's of all time...they've played over 4500 games and have a winning record...


    The Spurs have been around for 30(NBA) years, have played about 2000 fewer games, yet are 150 more games over 500 than the Sixers.

    It's not just that either...the Spurs started out as defacto minor league team...yet somehow they've made a conference finals in every decade of their NBA existence.
    The Spurs have been adding 30+ games over .500 every year lately whereas the 76ers keep treading water in that category, so it's understandable for the Spurs to be ahead.

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    Playoffs- les
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    That list also has the Heat at 0 les. The wins and losses are accurate, but the les over recent years are not.

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    If we're looking at the history of the franchises, the Warriors {1946-47, 1955-56, and 1974-75} and the Syracuse Nationals/Philadelphia 76ers {1954-55, 1966-67, 1982-83} also have 3 les
    Hopefully that logjam at 3 les will be broken up in 2 to 2 1/2 weeks

    As far as my 5 greatest teams:
    Celtics
    Lakers
    Spurs
    Bulls
    76ers
    in spite of both the Celtics' & 76ers' recent downturn in fortunes

    True..there's a reason I ranked the Pistons and Spurs over the Warriors and Sixers having to do with les when I first saw that list a few years ago and I can't remember now why I did it....

    Also...the Spurs and the Bulls are the only teams undefeated in multiple finals appearances I believe.

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    I think the Rockets are as well.

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    Mavfan, this is for you.

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    Team                   Games   les   W - L     Pct   Games +/- .500
    Los Angeles Lakers      4647  53-14  2848-1799  .613   +1049
    San Antonio Spurs       2510  26-1-  1493-1017  .595    +476
    Boston Celtics          4757  44-16  2794-1963  .587    +831
    Phoenix Suns            3166  27-0   1759-1407  .556    +352
    Utah Jazz               2674  21-0   1439-1235  .538    +204
    Philadelphia 76ers      4582  43-3   2461-2121  .537    +340
    Milwaukee Bucks         3166  24-1   1684-1482  .532    +202
    Seattle SuperSonics     3248  22-1   1725-1523  .531    +202
    Portland Trail Blazers  3002  26-1   1588-1414  .529    +174
    Chicago Bulls           3329  27-6   1703-1626  .512     +77
    New York Knicks         4753  37-2   2399-2354  .505     +45
    Houston Rockets         3248  23-2   1629-1619  .502     +10
    Detroit Pistons         4644  37-3-  2302-2344  .497     -42
    Miami Heat              1526  11-0    756-770   .495     -14
    Indiana Pacers          2510  17-0   1235-1275  .492     -40
    Atlanta Hawks           4584  36-1   2239-2345  .488    -106
    Orlando Magic           1444   9-0    700-744   .485     -44
    Dallas Mavericks        2182  12-0   1051-1131  .482     -80
    Sacramento Kings        4647  28-1   2220-2427  .478    -207
    New Orleans Hornets     1526   8-0    725-801   .475     -76
    Denver Nuggets          2510  17-0   1162-1348  .463    -186
    Golden State Warriors   4752  28-3   2190-2562  .461    -372
    Washington Wizards      3729  24-1   1713-2016  .459    -303
    Cleveland Cavaliers     3002  15-0-  1349-1653  .449    -304
    Minnesota Timberwolves  1444   7-0    627-817   .434    -190
    New Jersey Nets         2510  15-0   1082-1428  .431    -346
    Toronto Raptors          952   4-0    388-564   .408    -176
    Los Angeles Clippers    3002   7-0   1104-1898  .368    -792
    Memphis Grizzlies        952   3-0    318-634   .334    -316
    Charlotte Bobcats        246   0-0     77-169   .313     -92
    - Pending playoffs
    Check out the two Los Angeles franchises. The Lakers hold a 921.5 game
    lead on the Clippers. If the Clippers went 62-20 every season, and the
    Lakers went 20-62 every season, it would take 22 years for the Clippers
    to overtake the Lakers!
    im not surprised the Mavs are 80 games below .500.

    our great records now wash out the dismal records in the mid-90's were we would always flirt with all time records as far as worst winning percentage goes. there was one season where we didnt even win 10 games i think

    and plus, the Mavs have been a steadily below .500 franchise forever not counting the Agguire/Blackman era.

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    The Rockets lost the 1981 and 1986 Finals.

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    From that same site:
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    Best 1-Year Turnaround:
         96-97    San Antonio Spurs         20   62     .244
         97-98                              56   26     .683
                                            36 Games   +.439
         David Robinson injured 96-97 gives Spurs draft pick
         for Tim Duncan, so if Robinson was not injured,
         Spurs don't get Duncan, Robinson retires ringless.
    
         88-89    San Antonio Spurs         21   61     .256
         89-90                              56   26     .683
         David Robinson joins team          35 Games   +.427
    
         03-04    Phoenix Suns              29   53     .354
         04-05                              62   20     .756
         MVP Steve Nash joins team          33 Games   +.402
    
    
         78-79    Boston Celtics            29   53     .354
         79-80                              61   21     .744
         Larry Bird joins team              32 Games   +.390
    
    
         69-70    Milwaukee Bucks           27   55     .329
         70-71                              56   26     .683
         Lew Alcindor joins team            29 Games   +.354

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    Worst 1-Year Turnaround:
         97-98    Chicago Bulls             62   20     .756
         98-99                              13   37     .260
         49 Games (Full Season Equivalent: 40.7 Games) -.496
         Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen and
         coach Phil Jackson leave team
    
         95-96    San Antonio Spurs         59   23     .720
         96-97                              20   62     .244
                                            39 Games   -.476
         David Robinson injured all but 6 games in 96-97


    DRob was so under-rated it's sickening.

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    True..there's a reason I ranked the Pistons and Spurs over the Warriors and Sixers having to do with les when I first saw that list a few years ago and I can't remember now why I did it....

    Also...the Spurs and the Bulls are the only teams undefeated in multiple finals appearances I believe.
    Could it be because the Warriors have 3 losses in the finals, the Pistons 4 and the Nationals/76ers 6??

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    5 Greatest Teams in NBA History ?? according to the media and other fans SPURS don't even exist and have to continually prove themselves year after year. IMO winning percentage alone put them in top 3.

    GO SPURS!! maybe with this new BAD BOY image , and after thrashing the KING we'll get a tiny bit mo LOVE.

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    Replace spurs and Jazz with bulls and knicks.
    Diesel just stated facts....and you are saying the facts don't matter?
    There is no way to dispute winning percentages by franchise. Unless you make up who won what games.

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    i say in about 15 years the spurs will move up to #2 if things keep going good the way they have been in the last 10 years.

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    Hmm, the Celtics and Bill Russell were just flukes, winning fluke games against teams trotting out slow-footed 6'7 white guys at center. And don't even get me started on the Lakers and all their fluke les, or Jordan and the Bulls getting all the calls due to David Stern's marketing priorities. Adjusted for all of the bull , here are the five greatest teams in NBA History.

    1. 1987-88 Dallas Mavericks:



    Led by Rolando Blackman and Mark Aguirre, the Mavericks went 53-29 and advanced to the Western Conference Finals, before Stern and the refs screwed them.

    2. 2005-06 Dallas Mavericks:



    This squad went 60-22 and defeated the fluke Spurs on the way to the NBA Finals. Once there, they were well on their way to winning before David Stern and ABC executives took matters into their own hands.

    3. 2006-07 Dallas Mavericks:



    The Mavericks went 67-15 during the regular season and would've won a le easily until Stern and ABC executives decided that a historic upset would make for a better storyline.

    4. 2002-03 Dallas Mavericks:



    The Mavericks started out 14-0, were 35-5 at one point and finished 60-22, losing out on a tiebreaker to the Spurs. They would've beaten the Spurs in the Western Conference Finals and advanced to win the le. Unfortunately, Bruce Bowen whacked Dirk Nowitzki in the knee with a folding chair in Game 3, and the Mavs couldn't overcome the Spurs dirty play.

    5. 1993-94 Dallas Mavericks:



    Thanks to the arrival of Jason Kidd, the Mavericks improved from 13-69 to 36-46. The team would've made the playoffs and gone on to win the le if Jim Jackson hadn't suffered a severely sprained ankle.

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    i say in about 15 years the spurs will move up to #2 if things keep going good the way they have been in the last 10 years.
    uh... theres a little problem there. For that to happen we would need another Duncan to drop in our lap like 10 years ago... which is to say... not very likely is it? No, I think Duncan has 3 or 4 more years of dominant to semi dominant performance and then he'll be relegated role player if and only if we happen to find ourselves a decent star to take us all the way. If not, Duncan retires and we will flirt with the bottom of the west for years to come.

    This is why people need to enjoy these years while they last! Ask Boston fans if in the 80s they ever pictured their team being where they are now. Every fan thinks their good fortune is going to run forever, and ours has run for almost 2 decades now. I mean come on! How many franchises do you know who have had a David Robinson caliber player and then on top of that get possibly the greatest PF to ever play the game?

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    uh... theres a little problem there. For that to happen we would need another Duncan to drop in our lap like 10 years ago... which is to say... not very likely is it? No, I think Duncan has 3 or 4 more years of dominant to semi dominant performance and then he'll be relegated role player if and only if we happen to find ourselves a decent star to take us all the way. If not, Duncan retires and we will flirt with the bottom of the west for years to come.

    This is why people need to enjoy these years while they last! Ask Boston fans if in the 80s they ever pictured their team being where they are now. Every fan thinks their good fortune is going to run forever, and ours has run for almost 2 decades now. I mean come on! How many franchises do you know who have had a David Robinson caliber player and then on top of that get possibly the greatest PF to ever play the game?
    Yes we got lucky twice with those draft picks david robinson and Tim duncan but you never know right?.. whats wrong with thinking that it might happen again?

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    Yes we got lucky twice with those draft picks david robinson and Tim duncan but you never know right?.. whats wrong with thinking that it might happen again?
    Yes, because players like The Admiral and Timmy come around every year... You can hope, everyone hopes, I hope we get another superstar to carry us to the promised land, but hope is probably all its going to be. Odds are against us buddy. So enjoy the years we've had, and the ones we've got left. Greatness doesn't come around often.

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    uh... theres a little problem there. For that to happen we would need another Duncan to drop in our lap like 10 years ago... which is to say... not very likely is it? No, I think Duncan has 3 or 4 more years of dominant to semi dominant performance and then he'll be relegated role player if and only if we happen to find ourselves a decent star to take us all the way. If not, Duncan retires and we will flirt with the bottom of the west for years to come.

    This is why people need to enjoy these years while they last! Ask Boston fans if in the 80s they ever pictured their team being where they are now. Every fan thinks their good fortune is going to run forever, and ours has run for almost 2 decades now. I mean come on! How many franchises do you know who have had a David Robinson caliber player and then on top of that get possibly the greatest PF to ever play the game?

    Nice thoughts, unfortunately, this era of the Spurs won't be appreciated, even by SA, until it's over. That's the way it is for some teams...they'll be missed more once they are gone. And Spursfans will hurt for these days to come again.


    The Spurs are arguably the only true small market dynasty in modern sports history....maybe the Edmonton Oilers or something...American sports anyway...

    What Pop was able to do since becoming the GM of this team is a one of a kind thing in all of Sports I think. He's a great coach...but he's a genius GM.

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    Hmm, the Celtics and Bill Russell were just flukes, winning fluke games against teams trotting out slow-footed 6'7 white guys at center. And don't even get me started on the Lakers and all their fluke les, or Jordan and the Bulls getting all the calls due to David Stern's marketing priorities. Adjusted for all of the bull , here are the five greatest teams in NBA History.

    1. 1987-88 Dallas Mavericks:



    Led by Rolando Blackman and Mark Aguirre, the Mavericks went 53-29 and advanced to the Western Conference Finals, before Stern and the refs screwed them.

    2. 2005-06 Dallas Mavericks:



    This squad went 60-22 and defeated the fluke Spurs on the way to the NBA Finals. Once there, they were well on their way to winning before David Stern and ABC executives took matters into their own hands.

    3. 2006-07 Dallas Mavericks:



    The Mavericks went 67-15 during the regular season and would've won a le easily until Stern and ABC executives decided that a historic upset would make for a better storyline.

    4. 2002-03 Dallas Mavericks:



    The Mavericks started out 14-0, were 35-5 at one point and finished 60-22, losing out on a tiebreaker to the Spurs. They would've beaten the Spurs in the Western Conference Finals and advanced to win the le. Unfortunately, Bruce Bowen whacked Dirk Nowitzki in the knee with a folding chair in Game 3, and the Mavs couldn't overcome the Spurs dirty play.

    5. 1993-94 Dallas Mavericks:



    Thanks to the arrival of Jason Kidd, the Mavericks improved from 13-69 to 36-46. The team would've made the playoffs and gone on to win the le if Jim Jackson hadn't suffered a severely sprained ankle.

    Nice.

    LOL

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    Replace spurs and Jazz with bulls and knicks.
    ARE YOU ING BLIND? HE SAID WINNING %, WHICH IS NOT OBJECTIVE, IT IS A STATISTIC! I AM SO SICK OF YOUR ING IDIOCY!!!

    /rant

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    Hmm, the Celtics and Bill Russell were just flukes, winning fluke games against teams trotting out slow-footed 6'7 white guys at center. And don't even get me started on the Lakers and all their fluke les, or Jordan and the Bulls getting all the calls due to David Stern's marketing priorities. Adjusted for all of the bull , here are the five greatest teams in NBA History.

    1. 1987-88 Dallas Mavericks:



    Led by Rolando Blackman and Mark Aguirre, the Mavericks went 53-29 and advanced to the Western Conference Finals, before Stern and the refs screwed them.

    2. 2005-06 Dallas Mavericks:



    This squad went 60-22 and defeated the fluke Spurs on the way to the NBA Finals. Once there, they were well on their way to winning before David Stern and ABC executives took matters into their own hands.

    3. 2006-07 Dallas Mavericks:



    The Mavericks went 67-15 during the regular season and would've won a le easily until Stern and ABC executives decided that a historic upset would make for a better storyline.

    4. 2002-03 Dallas Mavericks:



    The Mavericks started out 14-0, were 35-5 at one point and finished 60-22, losing out on a tiebreaker to the Spurs. They would've beaten the Spurs in the Western Conference Finals and advanced to win the le. Unfortunately, Bruce Bowen whacked Dirk Nowitzki in the knee with a folding chair in Game 3, and the Mavs couldn't overcome the Spurs dirty play.

    5. 1993-94 Dallas Mavericks:



    Thanks to the arrival of Jason Kidd, the Mavericks improved from 13-69 to 36-46. The team would've made the playoffs and gone on to win the le if Jim Jackson hadn't suffered a severely sprained ankle.
    Coulda Would Shoulda

    WHINE WHINE WHINE

    BLAME IT ON STERN AND THE REFS!!!

    GET OVER YOURSELF!

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    IT was close but I had to put the Spurs ahead of the Bulls considering what they have done in the past decade by having a higher winning percentage than any sports franchise during that time.. That is just amazing.

    Right there you just condraticted your subject when you base the Spurs accomplishments in the past decade and use that as a measure against the HISTORY of the NBA. I'll always be a Spurs fan, but give Michael and da' Bulls their respects.

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    San Antonio Spurs 2510 26-1- 1493-1017 .595 +476
    Only 1 le? Kinda out of date, dontchathink???

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    and what is your top 5 worst teams in NBA History?

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    The Spurs are arguably the only true small market dynasty in modern sports history....maybe the Edmonton Oilers or something...American sports anyway...

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