Bowen dirties moves

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As much as I think you are saying this out of sour grapes, I did think Phoenix would have won the series w/ San Antonio this season if not for the dirty play of the Spurs, and I think they will definately win the West next season if they keep their team together.

Spurs fans like to say that they beat the Suns in Game Six and that makes it all better, however the fact of the matter is they never would have won Game 5 if Stoudemire had been playing so even assuming a Game 6 win for the Spurs, that would only have evened the series at 3-3 with the Game 7 being a home game for the Suns.

The two of you need to get a room...

[ClingingMars]

Not all the time, just in the playoffs when he senses things are getting away from the team.

No he doesn't. This bull is so laughable...



-Mars

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I'd like a specific example of that. Name one time. Ever. Once. Just once.

The Suns series these playoffs?? The funny thing is, after San Antonio got their desired reaction from the Suns players and got two of them suspended, the dirty play magically ceased for the rest of the series...cooincidence? I think not. More likely, Poppovich told Bowen no need to cheap shot opposing players now that we've got this series in the bag.

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The low blow was one of the worst things he has done!

I agree. He cleared out on a smaller player who had no business crowding him and got called for an offensive foul. That is quite clearly one of the worst things he's ever done.

And it wasn't that bad. I can think of about a dozen shots from this year's playoffs that are worse, all of them by players not named Bruce Bowen.

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The two of you need to get a room...

So you don't deny what I am saying??

[BWJACKETS]

I agree. He cleared out on a smaller player who had no business crowding him and got called for an offensive foul. That is quite clearly one of the worst things he's ever done.

And it wasn't that bad. I can think of about a dozen shots from this year's playoffs that are worse, all of them by players not named Bruce Bowen.

Well, you are a Spurs fan so I would expect that out of you. Just like your head coach and some of your players, you are willing to sacrifice your own integrity for any kind of compe ive advantage.

[samikeyp]

however the fact of the matter is they never would have won Game 5 if Stoudemire had been playing so even assuming a Game 6 win for the Spurs,

Actually that is an opinion, not a fact. There is no way to tell with 100% accuracy how that game would have turned out if Amare was there. I look also to Games 1 and 3 where the Spurs won both games (including one in Phoenix) with the Suns having a full squad. The Spurs were a shooting meltdown away from going back to Phoenix up 3-1.

[ClingingMars]

So you don't deny what I am saying??

No, it's just that you blowing that Suns fan in public is getting annoying. Seriously, get a room.

-Marrs

[fyatuk]

The low blow was one of the worst things he has done! I honestly could care less about guys falling on his foot and spraining their ankles, thats part of the game. But to blatantly knee somebody in the balls....if somebody ever did that to me I would whup their asses on the middle of the basketball court.

And there in lies the problem, you can't not suspend somebody for instigating an action from another player to get that player in trouble without also suspending the player who started the incident in the first place.

I know this is a rehash, so I apologize...however, how many more years do you think Bowen will be in the league for? The sooner he is gone, the better for everybody, this guy gives the sport of basketball a bad name.

I'm not saying it wasn't bad, i'm just saying it's not uncommon. Just about EVERYBODY clears space by doing that. Nash oversold that horribly, just like he did the Horry hit. It's not like Bowen reared back and kneed Nash full force.

He'll either be gone in 2 or 3 years or turn into Kevin Willis and be here for another decade though. I don't think he brings all that much to the Spurs anymore. Some of the star players have done better against him than other defenders this season and playoffs.

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The Suns series these playoffs?? The funny thing is, after San Antonio got their desired reaction from the Suns players and got two of them suspended, the dirty play magically ceased for the rest of the series...cooincidence? I think not. More likely, Poppovich told Bowen no need to cheap shot opposing players now that we've got this series in the bag.

So who did Bruce hurt on the Suns when Pop sensed the game was out of reach?

And you are saying that the proof that Horry's foul was dirty was because...it never happened again?

Seriously, you aren't stupid enough to believe this . You had me going for a while. Well done. Bowen's going to harass your superstar. He'll take it like a man, unlike anyone wearing a Suns uniform.

[samikeyp]

Well, you are a Spurs fan so I would expect that out of you

Yes because all Spurs fans think alike?

[DarrinS]

Out of all those "chippy" plays, is any of them "flagrant"?

What was the call on the ninja kick to Szerbiak?

[cornbread]

Wow. Yet another thread that's been taken over by a bunch of Nancy's who want to and whine about the Big Bad Spurs.

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Well, you are a Spurs fan so I would expect that out of you.

The truth? Thanks. It's amazing how that works. You should try it sometime.

[BWJACKETS]

Wow. Yet another thread that's been taken over by a bunch of Nancy's who want to and whine about the Big Bad Spurs.

I just want to know what it is like to have to defend the dirtiest player in the league.

If I had to guess, it would have to be not unlike as a kid when your parents tell you to eat your vegetables.

[easjer]

Please.

This 'body of evidence' crap is just that: crap. Bull . Rubbish.

Bruce Bowen has the longest streak of games on the Spurs. Hasn't missed a game in what, two, three years - including deep playoff runs. And in all this time, there have been how many injuries? One - to Steve Francis (and Steve even said it was not intentional, so what more do you want?). Ray Allen's injury happened before any contact with Bruce. If he was so dirty, wouldn't there (given the number of games he's played in) be more than handful of supposed injuries?

Further, I don't condone the kick to Ray Allen's back (though I will qualify it as a push with a foot, as opposed to a kick meant to cause injury - something I do to my cat whenever he curls up on my feet) or the kick to Wally Szcerbiak's face (which was a freak accident). But Bruce doesn't condone them either and has publicly apologized more than once for those actions.

Beyond that - he didn't knee Nash in the balls, it was on the thigh, and Nash flopped it. Watch closely, and you'll see guys everywhere pulling similar moves.

He does things to frustrate people and he gets away with exploiting the ambiguity of the rules. But that's not dirty - it's sharp, intelligent play.

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Out of all those "chippy" plays, is any of them "flagrant"?

What was the call on the ninja kick to Szerbiak?

I think it got upgraded by the league and he got fined.

[samikeyp]

I just want to know what it is like to have to defend the dirtiest player in the league.

again...you are assuming all Spurs fans think alike.

Generalize much?

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I just want to know what it is like to have to defend the dirtiest player in the league.

Ask the Maverick fans. Jason Terry plays for them.

[samikeyp]

I just want to know what it is like to have to defend the dirtiest player in the league.

Your opinion, not fact.

Just because you say so doesn't make it so.

And yes, before you say it...the opposite is true as well.

[cornbread]

I just want to know what it is like to have to defend the dirtiest player in the league.

What I want to know is how it feels to be a whiney ass Nancy. Please elaborate.

[BWJACKETS]

What I want to know is how it feels to be a whiney ass Nancy. Please elaborate.

So you aren't denying what I said then??

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So you don't deny what I am saying??

That you want to go down on the Suns troll so you'll have someone to agree with you? No, I agree completely.

[Winnipeg_Spur]

Even after all this time, I still enjoy listening to how incredulous the Nets announcers were that charging a guy, forcing the refs to restrain you, could actually warrant a T.

Good stuff.

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So you aren't denying what I said then??

You didn't say anything. You asked a question.