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    JekkaIsGoddess Jekka's Avatar
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    Then in reality, you do not support the troops. Your statement is affirming you do not believe in their job. That is not support, but a half-ass smear to those who believe in their jobs.
    Just because some of us don't believe in the reason for deployment does NOT mean that we do not believe in their job - I don't know anyone who would say, "You know, I don't think we need a military, I really think we'd be better off unprotected." It's not about the job, it's about the task assigned. There is a big difference.


    Anyways, back to the reason this thread was bumped - you and Tom have all my best wishes, Rashofan

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    Siren with a Siren RashoFan's Avatar
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    Here is an update...They are "Boots in Country" and he got there safely. Hopefully he will be coming home safely in 365 days from now! Thanks for the prayers and wishes everyone!

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    Bump...
    My guy was sent over to Iraq sometime yesterday. Please keep Tom and the rest of his unit in your prayers. I know that they will be in a really "bad" area, but I don't know where. I had someone who was priveledged to sensitive info and he told me to tell him to keep his head down... the area can get real bad.
    I am trying hard not to freak out and keep it together, if y'all could say a little prayer for my sanity...I would appreciate it.
    Support our troops!

    I will be praying.

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    Siren with a Siren RashoFan's Avatar
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    We bring the soldiers home when their job is finished. Bringing them home before that belittles everything they worked for.
    W.C.
    Thanks for posting that comment! That actually help me put things back into perpective and is helping me to deal with Tom being over there.

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    Siren with a Siren RashoFan's Avatar
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    I made a countdown and have the current time in Iraq on my desk top.

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    Thanks for posting that comment! That actually help me put things back into perpective and is helping me to deal with Tom being over there.
    You're welcome. I just cannot understand the sentamites of some people here. How can they say the support the troops when they downplay the job they are doing? So many positive things are happening in Iraq that go unreported. The soldiers participating in much of the volenteer work have gained so much as individuals.


    For those who haven't a clue. Unless you participate in like many of the soldiers do in the Iraqi communities, you simply cannot begin to understand the personal growth it give them. The accomplishments they make happen will be positive forces in their lives, and everyone they touch.

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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    You're welcome. I just cannot understand the sentamites of some people here. How can they say the support the troops when they downplay the job they are doing? So many positive things are happening in Iraq that go unreported. The soldiers participating in much of the volenteer work have gained so much as individuals.


    For those who haven't a clue. Unless you participate in like many of the soldiers do in the Iraqi communities, you simply cannot begin to understand the personal growth it give them. The accomplishments they make happen will be positive forces in their lives, and everyone they touch.
    Over the past year or so, I've backed off politics on this board quite a bit. It really just ends up being a festival of my head bashing against my desk because I have to deal with complete asshole idiots like yourself.

    i'm so sick of dip s who try to redfine support to fit their politcal agenda. I'm not sure if you knwo what a dictionary is, but if you do you might want to pick one up and look up the word support.

    I may have no personal experience with the military community, but that means jack when it comes to what I support and what I do not support. I hope each and every one of our soldiers is safe. That doesn't mean I support starting a war on each block of our earth in order to make them have a "positive force in their live". You're so wrapped up in how this may have made a veteran or 2 feel that you can't see te big picture of people dying. How much personal growth do the people who come back maimed have? How much personal growth do the children who grow up without fathers have? How much personal growth do the soldiers who never make it back have? How much personal growth to the Iraqi's who died have? How much personal growth do the soldiers who come back with severe post traumatic stress disorder have?

    WAR IS NOT ABOUT PERSONAL ING GROWTH AND FOR YOU TO ING LEGITIMIZIE IT BASED ON SUCH IS REALLY REALLY ANNOYING.

    I support the troops of this nation and I hope each and everyone come back safe. I thank them for volunteering for a job for pay. I thank them for being willing to put their life on the line for the saftey of this nation. I feel extremely sorry for them that we put people in office who use them in an unfit manner. It may be difficult for you to understand how not supporting the decision to send them to war is far different from not hoping no harm comes to them or that they succeed in their everyday missions but don't act as though you're on some supposed moral highground based on political beliefs.

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    Semper Fi!!

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    Over the past year or so, I've backed off politics on this board quite a bit. It really just ends up being a festival of my head bashing against my desk because I have to deal with complete asshole idiots like yourself.

    i'm so sick of dip s who try to redfine support to fit their politcal agenda. I'm not sure if you knwo what a dictionary is, but if you do you might want to pick one up and look up the word support.

    I may have no personal experience with the military community, but that means jack when it comes to what I support and what I do not support. I hope each and every one of our soldiers is safe. That doesn't mean I support starting a war on each block of our earth in order to make them have a "positive force in their live". You're so wrapped up in how this may have made a veteran or 2 feel that you can't see te big picture of people dying. How much personal growth do the people who come back maimed have? How much personal growth do the children who grow up without fathers have? How much personal growth do the soldiers who never make it back have? How much personal growth to the Iraqi's who died have? How much personal growth do the soldiers who come back with severe post traumatic stress disorder have?

    WAR IS NOT ABOUT PERSONAL ING GROWTH AND FOR YOU TO ING LEGITIMIZIE IT BASED ON SUCH IS REALLY REALLY ANNOYING.

    I support the troops of this nation and I hope each and everyone come back safe. I thank them for volunteering for a job for pay. I thank them for being willing to put their life on the line for the saftey of this nation. I feel extremely sorry for them that we put people in office who use them in an unfit manner. It may be difficult for you to understand how not supporting the decision to send them to war is far different from not hoping no harm comes to them or that they succeed in their everyday missions but don't act as though you're on some supposed moral highground based on political beliefs.
    Good post , Manny!

    Wild Cobra,
    My husband spent 20 years in the Army & I spent almost half that time as an army wife. To say that I am not not supportive of our troops just because I disagree with the course that the President and GEN Petraeus continue to spout ad nauseum DOES NOT AT ALL mean that I don't support the troops in every way possible. Many of them are friends of my now retired husband & I. I pray for their safety every single day. I pray that they feel they are their for the right reasons even if I disagree with why they have actually been sent there. I hope for the sake of our nation they all get to come home very quickly and that these last days President Bush is in office fly by wiht lightening fast speed.
    (These are jusy my humble opinions)

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    I support our troops returning home ASAP. They are volunteers who signed up to defend you and me. I'd prefer them not to be halfway around the world dying to defeat a ghost.

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    Purrrrrrrrrrrr Holt's Cat's Avatar
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    Seriously, how many people have actually had a family member who served and did not return home? My dad lost a brother in WWII and whenever his name comes up nowadays he still tears up. Yeah, War on Terror. Whatever. Sign up. What's stopping you?

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    i'm so sick of dip s who try to redfine support to fit their politcal agenda.
    It is the left who started the B.S. political support slogans like "I support the troops, but not the war." Support is giving, not empathy. Not placing a 180 on a slogan.
    I'm not sure if you knwo what a dictionary is, but if you do you might want to pick one up and look up the word support.
    Go ahead. Look it up.
    I may have no personal experience with the military community, but that means jack when it comes to what I support and what I do not support. I hope each and every one of our soldiers is safe. That doesn't mean I support starting a war on each block of our earth in order to make them have a "positive force in their live".
    I am not saying you don't have good will towards the soldiers. Just that it is not support when you wish to cut short their mission.
    You're so wrapped up in how this may have made a veteran or 2 feel that you can't see te big picture of people dying. How much personal growth do the people who come back maimed have? How much personal growth do the children who grow up without fathers have? How much personal growth do the soldiers who never make it back have? How much personal growth to the Iraqi's who died have? How much personal growth do the soldiers who come back with severe post traumatic stress disorder have?
    You're damn right I care about how such statements make people feel. As a veteran, I want to -slap everyone I hear saying things like "I support the troops, but not their mission"

    Personal growth? Some have it more than others. Since you have no personal military experience, I don’t expect you’ll ever know.
    WAR IS NOT ABOUT PERSONAL ING GROWTH AND FOR YOU TO ING LEGITIMIZIE IT BASED ON SUCH IS REALLY REALLY ANNOYING.
    No . In a volunteer military, it's about fighting for the common good, and placing others above ones self. The growth comes from the giving. It makes a person better.
    I support the troops of this nation and I hope each and everyone come back safe. I thank them for volunteering for a job for pay. I thank them for being willing to put their life on the line for the saftey of this nation.
    Great. Thanks and goodwill are not support. The military is not as underpaid as people are lead to believe either.
    I feel extremely sorry for them that we put people in office who use them in an unfit manner.
    Pity is the last thing we want! We just want assholes to stop trying to impede our mission!
    It may be difficult for you to understand how not supporting the decision to send them to war is far different from not hoping no harm comes to them or that they succeed in their everyday missions but don't act as though you're on some supposed moral highground based on political beliefs.
    I do understand the difference. However, claiming you support them is the incorrect terminology when so many are proud of their mission. Telling them their mission is flawed is a slap in the face, not support. It nullifies any intended support you may have.

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    Veteran Wild Cobra's Avatar
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    Seriously, how many people have actually had a family member who served and did not return home? My dad lost a brother in WWII and whenever his name comes up nowadays he still tears up. Yeah, War on Terror. Whatever. Sign up. What's stopping you?
    I have an uncle who died while serving in the Army. He was like my older brother, just four years older. They said training accident, but we had black ops going on in the middle east at the time.

    What is the truth? I really don't know. But none of us in the family accepted that a champion swimmer drowned in combat training!

    Then there was the closed casket thing too. Never made sense.

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