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    What the is up with all of these stupid threads the last couple of days?

    Yeah, let's trade our foundation for a guy who hasn't even played in an NBA game yet!

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    I can only hope this is a joke:

    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54087

    Then again, this dumbass may actually believe it.

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    Why do some of you get so mad at this?

    The OP isn't RC Buford, nor is he Peter Holt. He's just a sap like us putting something out there.

    I definitely wouldn't do that trade, but jeez. Calm down.

    BTW, Oden is going to just dominate the league, especially on defense. He may not be as good as Duncan, but you can still win two championships and an MVP without being as good as Duncan. No shame in that.

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    Trick question? no.

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    NO

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    This summer if you could?

    trading for Oden makes Spurs a dynasty most likely for 10+ years. With Duncan the Spurs will remain this good for at least 3 to 4.

    Any thoughts?
    Dynasty the man has not played a game yet. Remember the can't miss Michael Olowokandi.

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    Trade Duncan for Oden, followed by Ginobili and Parker for Kobe.

    Udrih
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    Oden
    That team is terrible, worse than the current Lakers.

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    BTW, Oden is going to just dominate the league, especially on defense. He may not be as good as Duncan, but you can still win two championships and an MVP without being as good as Duncan. No shame in that.
    How the do you know?


    Sure, players can win championships without being as good as Duncan, but not young players who have to carry a team. Oden, a young player, will not be at his prime for a while, and during that while, who knows where Manu and Tony will be...Manu will be older, Finley, Horry, Bruce, Oberto, Barry...practically the whole Spurs roster will be retired.

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    This summer if you could?

    trading for Oden makes Spurs a dynasty most likely for 10+ years. With Duncan the Spurs will remain this good for at least 3 to 4.

    Any thoughts?
    Not a chance.

    Oden will be the Ryan Leaf of the NBA. All hype, not a chance of success. Kevin Durant is this year's Real Deal.

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    i want to see oden for 2 years first, then i will tell you that

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    i want to see oden for 2 years first, then i will tell you that
    That's part of the risk in deciding, you don't have that luxury in the real world.


    It's not worth trading the greatest PF of all time for a potentially good NBA starting center.

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    No, Why would you trade someone who is unproven for the best PF of All time?

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    i want to see oden for 2 years first, then i will tell you that
    In two years he'll be on his second team. In three years, he'll be on his third.

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    Nope.

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    This summer if you could?

    trading for Oden makes Spurs a dynasty most likely for 10+ years. With Duncan the Spurs will remain this good for at least 3 to 4.

    Any thoughts?

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    I actually think this is a legitimate question. Do you trade possibly the best player in the NBA at the top of his game with likely 3-5 more years at the top before serious decline for a player who has the potential to do the same but over a 10-12 year period.

    As someone has said before, with the current Spurs team, NO, because the team has been built around Duncan's specific skills and qualities. If the Spurs FO is willing to rebuild the team around Oden, maybe.

    Essentially it comes down to proven quality and being a top 4 team over the next 3-5 years with the chance to win a couple more championships versus the potential to be a contender for the next 10-12 years.

    I would always go for the proven product and as the Spurs organization seems to be rational and conservative, I think they would do the same thing too.

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    No way you trade a known asset (best asset) for a newbie who is unproven in the league. To explain this, I simply refer y'all to the history of tall players who have been drafted into the NBA and never worked out at all. Some of them were on our Sonics team. Some were elsewhere. There are a lot of them. Being a top draft pick in pro sports does not mean the player will perform at the top of the heap or even survive two seasons, or survive without a long history of injuries. Duncan has no history of "one after the other" injuries, and that by itself makes him worth keeping until he retires.

    One pro player who comes to mind who was a top draft pick who did not work out is my most hated player in the NFL, drafted by my Seahawks: Brian Bosworth!!!!!

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    We would not trade Oden for Duncan. Maybe LeBron, but it's debatable whether we would do that deal too.

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    I don't believe in dumping a franchise player for someone who is good "right now".

    Loyalty. TD stayed here when he could have left. So no.

    that being said.. no...not for someone who hasn't stepped foot on an NBA floor.
    Yeah, loyalty is a big factor here. I wouldn't trade Timmy for Lebron 3 years from on the loyalty factor alone.

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    Allow me to rephrase...

    NO.

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    At this point in time, to save all Blazers fans from Bowie 2.0, I will trade Beno Udrih our star point guard for Greg 'I've got a bad knee' Oden.

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    Oden is not even that damn good. He's just big and all GM's jump on the "next" big man bandwagon. To me, he's slow, gets tired easily and stays in foul trouble. I don't think he'll even be that effective on D. He's a mid-level starting center at best. It won't be much shot blocking this year like he did in college where he's a monstrisity on the court. The Blazers should've taken Durant.

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    I wouldn't trade Duncan for anybody even if it would make the Spurs better in the long run. You don't trade your franchise player that's a proven winner. Even if Greg Oden will play in the league for another 15 years and Duncan only 4-6 years. Duncan has given the city of San Antonio so much that even the thought of trading him is an insult to him and what he has accomplished.

    I would rather see the Spurs down for a few seasons after Duncan retires then to trade him in his last seasons for a "future" star. Like the Knicks did to Patrick Ewing, that was disrespectfull by the Knicks.

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