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    Suns fans have failed to explain one thing to me. They claim the suspensions of Stoudamire & Diaw are what cost them the series to the Spurs. But those players were only suspended for one, that's one, game. How do they explain the other THREE losses?
    If the suspensions are the only reaon they lost to the "inferior" Spurs, shouldn't they have won the series 4-1?

    same reason spurs fans think they were .4 away from a le in 2004.

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    You would think they'd be use to be kicked out of the finals by now.

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    That was my point. The same League that said Amare and Diaw broke the rules, said that Horry's foul was excessive. Can't have one way and not the other.

    I except both. Being on the short end of the stick, that's alot. As evidensed by these reoccuring threads, there's aren't many who have.

    Like I said above. Horry's foul was only really worth the type two label, and maybe a game. But because it was the springboard to much more, they came down a bit harder than normal.
    Here is the difference.

    The decision to suspend Amare and Diaw was based on them breaking a very black and white rule. There is no space for judgement with that rule. It is what it is.

    The decision to give Horry a Flagrant 2 and suspend him 2 games was and always will be a judgement call by the league. Go back and look at what Baron Davis did to D-Will in the GS/Utah series. You will see a much more violent and dangerous foul than the one Horry did. But Davis got a flagrant 1 and an ejection, nothing more. The big difference was no one from the Jazz was dumb enough to escalate it like the Suns players did. the stupidity of the Suns players forced the league to be more harsh on Horry than was warranted.

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    Here is the difference.

    The decision to suspend Amare and Diaw was based on them breaking a very black and white rule. There is no space for judgement with that rule. It is what it is.

    The decision to give Horry a Flagrant 2 and suspend him 2 games was and always will be a judgement call by the league. Go back and look at what Baron Davis did to D-Will in the GS/Utah series. You will see a much more violent and dangerous foul than the one Horry did. But Davis got a flagrant 1 and an ejection, nothing more. The big difference was no one from the Jazz was dumb enough to escalate it like the Suns players did. the stupidity of the Suns players forced the league to be more harsh on Horry than was warranted.
    I believe that was exactly what JMarksJohn was referring to. Horry's flagrant did not deserve a 2 game, but you also have to consider that there was altercation AFTER the flagrant. I believe that was what got Horry the 2 games.

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    Someone should go here (I can't -- I'm banned)

    http://arizonasportsfans.com/vb/showthread.php?t=92129

    and post a photo of Tim and Tony holding the trophies
    I Did it.

    go check it out

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    you rock!

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    You've got no idea how much the Suns fans hate us. All I've got today in my office is jeers and people saying "you're welcome," thinking they should have won that series. Of course, my office is all decked out in silver and black (AND GOLD!) today!

    With that, I definitely feel the Spurs' dynasty has been validated- and all the media is now calling the Spurs the "Yankees of Basketball."

    Personally, I call BS on that- the Yankees haven't won since 2000-the Spurs have won three times since then!

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    Why?

    Why even bother being doing such an asshole thing?
    Because Suns' fans ARE all ASSHOLES and CRYBABIES !!

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    Someone should go here (I can't -- I'm banned)

    http://arizonasportsfans.com/vb/showthread.php?t=92129

    and post a photo of Tim and Tony holding the trophies
    So am I. What does yours say when you try to go there?


    Mine says this:
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    I Did it.

    go check it out
    Thank you.

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    Stoudamire and Diaw left the bench, and not by a few steps: Stoudamire was all the way up to the scorer's table. It's a ten-year old rule, and they clearly broke it. Debate the wisdom of the rule till the cows come home, but it is what it is, and everyone knows about it.

    It's the playoffs. Guys are going to get knocked down. It isn't about Stern or the Spurs- it's about the Suns' inability to handle the physical element of playoff basketball. They need to man up.

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    Stoudamire and Diaw left the bench, and not by a few steps: Stoudamire was all the way up to the scorer's table. It's a ten-year old rule, and they clearly broke it. Debate the wisdom of the rule till the cows come home, but it is what it is, and everyone knows about it.

    It's the playoffs. Guys are going to get knocked down. It isn't about Stern or the Spurs- it's about the Suns' inability to handle the physical element of playoff basketball. They need to man up.
    Actually, we handled the physical element quite well. If you remember game four was a really tough, hard fought game that we came out on top in. I never really saw that as a big issue.

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    It is funny The Suns had such respect and admiration for us at the start of the year and now it is just lots of bitter hatred by both the players and the fans.

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    I think they should change the rules and call it 'The Suns Rule'.

    Only game 5 counts in a 7 game series.

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    I like this pic that was posted at that suns website.

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    Suns fans just need to STFU....Especially as long as they have this guy on the team.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCWd-...elated&search=

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    the S0NS. Those whiny pieces of will never win a ring.

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    Suns fans just need to STFU....Especially as long as they have this guy on the team.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCWd-...elated&search=
    Raja Bell is a . I can't believe the Suns fans could throw around those "dirty" tags all day long while singing this guy's praises at the same time.

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    Wow. They will ban you if you even say "Spurs" over there. What a bunch of over-sensitive little es. I'm just trying to have some fun, its not like any of us actually play on these teams. Before this years playoffs I actually liked the Suns a little bit. I mean you gotta admit they are entertaining during the regular season in those 300+ point triple over time games where, if someone says "defense" its met with a confused look and a "wha?"
    I tried logging in today and it said -
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    I think I made 2 posts. I hate Phoenix now and I hope the suns lose every game and Nash breaks his ankle and Stoudemire blows his knee out again. those people.

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    i think folks concentrate too much on the horry foul and credit it for all of the suns' frustrations. they think they should have won this year and probably smack around a couple of puppies thinking about how close they got this year and how it may be all over. the horry thing is just, in their mind, the clearest example of a league set against them and maybe even fate: game one, under a minute, tight game ... and their court leader can't get a freaking bandage to work right for his nose, they lose. game two, cruelest trick of all, they demolish their hated rivals by 20. suns play well game three but can't keep amare on the floor for some reason (starts with a d -- which of course amare is unfamiliar with -- rhymes with dunkin') so they barely lose (plus bowen knees nash mercilessly, which could have been something). then the game four debacle and a game 5 so close, fans could smell the victory. this year, more than any other aside from when the barkley era met the jordan era in the finals, was just grief wrapped in disappointment with a cute little bow of disgust.

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    do you think there will be added security for the first regular season game?

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    Kudos to whoever put the GIF of Steve Nash with the re face being checked by Horry on their MB. lol. very nice.

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    I spoke with a Suns fan today. She "hates" the Spurs now because of Horry and Bowen. She rooted for Utah and then rooted heartily for the Cavs.
    wow three disappointments in a row. are you sure she didnt slit her wrists?

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    Wow they're still really pissed lol

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