Did he guard B-Diddy? Is it his fault Davis had the series of his life? Why do people keep piling on Dirk? He played crappy, we lost. Avery coached a crappy series. Terry couldn't make a shot to save his life or keep Davis in front of him. When he wasn't in foul trouble, Devin couldn't keep Davis in front of him. We lost that series as a team. Dirk came up short, but I'm not gonna make sweeping judgments about a guy that is 5-0 in series-deciding games, has led a team to the Finals and is one of the top 5 players in the League. I take a guy's entire body of work into account, not just the moments he's come up short.
So Karl Malone was a scrub? It's some sort of insult to compare Dirk to Malone? Malone and Stockton were like a lot of guys, shut out of a le because of MJ. They were a championship-caliber team.
Well I guess if our aspirations are to become one of the greatest teams to never win a le, the Malone comparison is flattering. The Jazz had plenty of non-Jordan years where they had great opportunities at winning a le and they choked them away.
I just want this team to win one. I'd love to believe that Dirk is capable of leading a team to a le, but right now he's only shown flashes of that leadership, not a consistency with it.
More than any other player or coach on the roster, we have a rich owner committed to winning and as passionate as any diehard Reunion Rowdie. Most owners are content to just turn a profit. I don't have any doubt Cuban is going to hoist the trophy one day. Whether it's with Dirk as the centerpiece, I don't know, but this team is a lot closer to a le than it was in 2000.
sorry, but dirk is not one of the top 5 in the league.
Who do you have in front of him?
By my count, Duncan, Kobe, Wade, > Dirk.
Well here's the official list according to Spurs fans.
1. Duncan
2. Parker
3. Ginobili
4. Bowen
5. Finley
6. Horry
7. Barry
8. Vaughn
9. Oberto
10. Elson
11. Bonner
12. White
13. Ely
14. Udrih
15. Butler
16. Scola
17. Sean Elliot could still suit up and own
18. same with D-Rob
19. Popovich in a throwback
20. Hurricane Popovich
21. Popovich driving the team bus at the Indy 500
22. Stephen Jackson
23. Polish Sausage
24. Chimichanga
25. Shiner
26. More Food
27. Nick Van Exel - all 250 pounds of him in the glorious silver and black (is it a shock that he got fat in San Antonio?)
28. Cadillac Anderson
29. Alvin Robertson
30. George Gervin after taking his Geritol
After this, there's room for debate as to whether Lebron or Kobe or Nash, etc, makes the list. Dirk is maybe a top 50.
Last edited by monosylab1k; 06-19-2007 at 10:41 AM.
that is too ing funny..What, no Cadillac Anderson or Alvin Robertson? Those guys would own Dirk. You also forget the late and great Zarko Paspalj:
Look at him, dude's drawin' a triple team!
Last edited by Findog; 06-19-2007 at 10:38 AM.
The only guys in the league I would take over Dirk would be Tim, Bron, Wade, Kobe, and maybe Nash, although I would probably put Dirk ahead of him due to the age factor. Close right behind him Yao
hahaha yes, i gotta make some edits to the list
If I'm a GM, I take Bron. If I'm a coach, I take Dirk.
I think it's time for MavericksDynasty to weigh in on this topic.
Whys that?
Questionable shot selection, overdribbling on the perimeter, iffy free throw shooter, coasts too much. Getting to the Finals out of THAT Eastern Conference is not that impressive to me.
The ft shooting for sure, but I think those other things can be attributed to ty teamates that stand around and dont move, and them not having a primary ball handler that can set people up. He is much more of a leader than Dirk, is 6 years younger, and might be even more of a matchup problem than Dirk. I think most coaches would take Bron over Dirk in a heartbeat, , the Mavs would do that trade in a heartbeat
Dirk for LeBron? no brainer. we'd be a lock for the next 3 les at least.
Well, of course, he's seven years younger.
Those guys are all fluke players on a fluke dynasty. They just won the championships they were supposed to win. They didn't do anything special. Here's the guys that could all take Duncan to school:
1) Dirk
2) J-Ho
3) Terry
4) Stack
5) Harris
6) Damp
7) Diop
8) Buckner
9) George
10) Croshere
11) Barea
12) Ager
13) Willis
14) Mensa-Bonsu
15) Shawn Bradley could always be brought out of retirement
16) Same for Eschmeyer
17) Brad Davis, not only a smooth baritone on the Mavs' radio broadcast, but he is easily > Parker or Manu
18) Roy Tarpley's rolled up dollar bills
19) What's Sam Perkins doing these days?
20) Roy Tarpley's sponsor
21) Dirk if you shrunk him to 5 inches tall
22) Let's go break Motta out of the nursing home
23) Bob Ortegel - Not only he is a devil with the ladies, with a rare, sensual sexual energy that can't be contained, but he could easily beat up Bill Schoening and Dave Barnett at the same time with both hands tied behind his back in a fight:
24) Walter Bond
25) Terry Davis
26) James Donaldson, aka GOAT...I laugh at the comical thought of Duncan trying to post him up, or futilely giving way while Donaldson rains dunk after dunk over Timmy.
27) Herb Williams
28) Laura Miller
29) Humble Billy Hayes
30) The Manager of the Banana Republic in West Village.
HAHA the sexy beat Bob Ortegel. i'm sure he can stroll into the Old No.7 Club after a game and just clean house with all the fake blonde drunk s in there.23) Bob Ortegel - Not only he is a devil with the ladies, with a rare, sensual sexual energy that can't be contained, but he could easily beat up Bill Schoening and Dave Barnett at the same time with both hands tied behind his back in a fight:
duncan, kobe, nash, lebron, and... ok... dirk
i was in a bad mood this morning but i'm feeling better now. dirk can be in the top 5
I'd like to see him go to the Clippers, it would be amusing as all .
Elton Brand and Kobe on the same team? I don't want to see that. Kobe should have signed there when he had the chance -- it instantly would've given the Clippers a shot at being on equal footing with the Lake Show in southern California.
"If we lose [today], this season is pretty much over."
Some leader you got there.
You can't ignore both sides of the coin.
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