James White!
If you could give up anyone but the Big 3, I'd say do it. You all may not like Kobe, but you can't deny the guy is a talent of the highest level. As for Kobe taking Gino's position, the 2/3 spots are almost interchangeable in the Spurs system.
Having a lineup of Parker, Gino, Kobe, Duncan and Oberto/Elson would be sick. I'd imagine it work for a couple of reasons: 1) Duncan is not Shaq and doesn't mind taking a backseat so others can shine bright. He just cares about winning. 2) You'd have to hope that Kobe learned his lesson with the whole Shaq feud. Plus RC is light years ahead of Kupchak in the GM department.
And I'd imagine Pop could connect with Kobe because he'd be real with him, and not just make foolish promises to woo him over. He'd expect Kobe to earn his spot on the All NBA Defense team, and Kobe is still athletic enough to become a great defender.
The trade is probably not possible and/or too expensive, but if the Spurs front office figures it out without trading Parker, Gino and Duncan, you'd be stupid not to do it.
Think about it, 3 nearly impossible to guard perimeter players with range flanking Duncan who's still the best big man in the game. Who dangerous would the Spurs be? You'd have a PG that is getting better and better, and now adding his shooting to his quickness, can be a pain to handle. You'd have a 2 guard with no fear who is so unorthodox, most defenders can't stay in front of him, in addition to his clutch shooting, and ability to get to the basket and take a hit. You'd have the superstar SG/SF who can finish over anyone at the rim, also has no fear of the big stage, and is also impossible to stay in front of, especially when he's firing on all cylinders. Plus, some work with Chip would only make him more dangerous.
Oh, and you'd only have the best player in the game in the post, who's unselfish play makes everyone go. The guy who gets easy shots for EVERYONE. , with some practice, I could probably chip in about 10 points from the perimeter with all the open looks I'd get with Duncan in the post. He leads by example, works hard, plays the post better than anyone in the game. Oh, and he's been known to get tough baskets when the team needs one and lock down the paint on the other end.
And of course, the garbage man Oberto cleaning up everyone's mistakes.
Why wouldn't you want a team like that?
Last edited by Nathan Explosion; 06-17-2007 at 11:18 PM.
Kobe is TRASH and David Robinson would NEVER allow that piece on his team. Bank on THAT !!!!
Are you going to have Kobe play small forward? because Manu can't play that pos.
Again, in the Spurs system, the 2 and 3 positions are interchangeable, as are the 4 and 5. That's the word out of Spurs camp anyway.
so technically I'd put Gino at the 2 and Kobe at the 3, but it wouldn't really matter who was where because it's all about matchups,
, in 2005, Pop had Bowen on Billups (a 3 on a 1) Parker on Hamilton (a 1 on a 2) and Gino on Prince (a 2 on a very long 3). Positions don't matter as much as matchups.
That's sure is some smelly bait, Whottt.
Also, don't forget that someone has to be the 3 when Gino and Barry are playing at the same time. For a typical 3, none of them fit the bill as both are thin and lanky.
Doesn't seem to affect the team much though. I think Gino plays the 3 in that lineup.
That's sure is some smelly bait, Whottt.
You mind? We're trying to have a serious discussion here...
Kobe he's only got 3.
Kobe is walking bad chemistry, although we would be unstoppable if he was on this team.
He ain't leaving L.A.
I think Duncan would be enough to keep that chemistry alive. He and Pop get respect because of their accomplishments.
Plus, Duncan won't care who's taking the shots, only how many games they were winning. If Duncan has been this impressive with Parker and Gino, can you imagine adding superstar talent to that trio? Duncan and another superstar would be amazing all on their own, but Parker and Gino make it too tough to key in on one guy on the perimeter because those guys can make you pay. And all three (Parker, Gino, and Kobe) can break the defense down off the dribble, or spot up outside and wait for the pass from Duncan or another penetrator.
Again, won't happen IMO, but definitely something Kobe should entertain if he's serious about winning.
serrouslydahh
trade manu right now for kobe
Stern will never let Kobe play in San Antonio. He will stay in the bigger markets. NY, Boston, etc.
Give 'em Manu, Barry, Udrih, the rights to Scola, and our 1st round pick...
Seriously
Not No.....BUt NO!!!!
Don't waste any more time. The dude is a waste. His good days are over. Past his prime.
Trade his lazy Argentinian Hot dog ass.
Face it... Kobe is the 2nd best player in the NBA next to Timmy. Yall love Manu too much. I love him, but damn.... who even cares if he's getting older.... even at his youngest and best... he's not Kobe.
One thing about Kobe, is he's a winner, he wants to win... and he would undoubtably do that here. There wouldn't be any problems, because they would be winning, and it also takes 2 people to have an arguement... the rest of our guys arn't even gonna entertain that.
You can't stop any one of Kobe, Tim, or Tony without a double or triple team.... and what's gonna happen when you have all 3 of 'em on the floor at the same time on the same team and you have to leave 1 man on Tim? 1 man on Kobe? 1 man on Tony? The would be re-damn-diculous.
The guy plays both sides of the ball too... so we wouldn't be sacraficing our defensive domainance for an offensive superstar.
LA desperatly needs an outside shot and a PG.... Barry, no matter what you say about him, can still shoot the lights out. And Beno may be salvagable in an LA situation. He would mostly walk right in and start (depending on who they draft), and a fresh start may be all Beno needs
its just that he has no team, i bet it sucks for him to be losing.he would be great for the spurs
yah right, ask nash or kg or dirk if they would take kobe
Just like Stern never lets the small market teams in the NBA Finals.
Eva will not drag Tony to L.A. L.A. is almost done with Eva. The window for a starlet's career is small. The Spurs, as old as dirt as they are, will stay in the limelight longer than Eva. She's happy to latch on to Tony.
As for Kobe just wanting to win. No. Remember last year versus the Suns when he tried to prove a point by not scoring? He's a headcase. No way Manu ever pulls that kind of crap. Manu is the one who wants to win. Besides, Manu is probably the best bargain in the league. Why get rid of him? If we had lost this year then one can entertain crazy ideas, but not after winning the le.
I didn't check the numbers end of it, but you could add something that would make it work
Shaq, Malone, and Payton are assholes w/ ego's as big as their games. Tim, Tony, Bruce, and the rest... arn't. Like I said. It takes 2.
Kobe wants to win championships above all else. Bank on that
and we all love him for it..... like even you just said... he's still not Kobe Bryant
This is all hypothetical. You're obviously a Manu fanatic. I said who cares about age anyway. This is not a "trade Manu, just because... " rant. I love Manu, but if I can get Kobe Bryant... we'll see you around Manu, thanks for everything! As far as guaranting a championship, it pretty much would barring injury.
Last edited by Dro210; 06-18-2007 at 06:30 PM.
Maybe that's why we never go back-to-back? Why does just winning the championship mean we shouldn't take every oppurtunity we can to get better?
Complacency is not your friend
Once again... I love Manu.... but Kobe is one of the best to ever play the game, like him or not.....you'd be crazy to not want him.
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