yeah I mean Illgauskas
he has got his Hook shot, rebounds great , and his plays defense that woudl only improve next to duncan.
If he is avilable in a trade I think he coudl improve the spurs.
Agreed. And if Beno crashes and burns then he comes off the books after one year anyways.
yeah I mean Illgauskas
he has got his Hook shot, rebounds great , and his plays defense that woudl only improve next to duncan.
If he is avilable in a trade I think he coudl improve the spurs.
Either way it seems that hes done with the spurs...but What do you guys consider to be beno's biggest downfall??
Ball handling?, Defense?....
I've always thought he was a great shooter, and with more work i think he would work out great. Duncan has always been able to get shooters open looks.
Handling defensive pressure -- no doubt.but What do you guys consider to be beno's biggest downfall??
the cavs need someone who can shoot, and that's the only thing beno is good at so it's a perfect fit. I just don't know who they can offer to make this work, i'd take gibson though that's not likely to happen.
As was I. I don't think it would happen but I would like it.Cavs have no picks in this draft. Hmmm....what if the Spurs could expand such a deal to include a S&T for Pavlovic?
That's what I was thinking.
It certainly looked that way with the mavs, and the pistons.
A free look at Brown or a future second rounder is fine with me.
....and Chuck Hayes....
I'd take several guys on the Cavs.
Pavlovic had several "manu moments"...I'd take him in a heartbeat. Godin was great with that 10' shot, killed Duncan when he was out of position. Either of the other 2 bigs have potential also.
Pavlovic tho...gimme, gimme, gimme.
Beno is done here. He has talent, but doesn't have the mental makeup and toughness to be a Spur. He's perfectly happy collecting his check and cruising the clubs for honeys, and that'll get you by on probably 25 NBA teams that don't have any standards of accountability. People are going to blame this on Pop, as if he treats everyone the same. From what I've been told, they've tried everything, screaming at him, being nice to him and positively re-enforcing, and ignoring him. Nothing worked. I arrived at a bit after 6 to see Game one of the Finals, and got to see them shooting warmups. Tim was out at the 3 point line with Beno, joking with him, teasing him a bit and generally being nice and inclusive. I swear to God, unguarded and warming up, Beno hit like 3-20. He's just lost here and needs a change of scenery as much as the Spurs need to be rid of him.
Beno makes sense for the Cavs. Like I've said for a while, Beno isn't a point guard. He isn't a good enough ball handler to bring the ball up the court on a consistent basis.
Beno in a Daniel Gibson type role would be pretty decent ... if he can relocate his shot. He's not that bad of a defender when he's in shape and he's a good passer.
The talent is there but I highly doubt it's going to ever work out in San Antonio. Beno's two favorite things are Latinas and breakfast tacos so I assume he's enjoyed his time here. However, if he ever wants to become serious about this basketball thing, Cleveland sounds like a good opportunity.
I think Pavlovic is overrated. He's decent but won't be worth the contract he'd get. I'd rather trade Beno for nothing than an overpriced Pavlovic.
If the Spurs wanted to get rid of him they would have long ago, but Cavs may need to ive up Veradjo if they want a starting PG in return
Good pick-up by the Cavs if it happens. He's a good shooter and decent talent who needs to build some confidence. Great risk at one year, still very young. In Cleveland, too, he won't have to bring the ball up against pressure, just pass and knock down shots. I really like this for them.
For the Spurs, just tossing him away frees a roster spot. They should try to get a future second rounder for him; that's fair. I could care less about Shannon Brown at this point - roster spaces are more important.
Spurs should be able to easily find a backup PG or combo guard in this year's draft. In fact, during ESPN.Com's first draft listing, Chad Ford's predicted the Spurs would take an interest in the following rookie PG:
Gabe Pruitt
Position: PG
Height: 6-4
Weight: 170
Age: 21
School: USC
I'd deal Beno for the last pick of the draft
I'm going to miss Beno and Bonner.
A nice scenario would be to trade Beno, draft a young point guard and re-sign Vaughn. Then let Vaughn, Aaron Miles and the rookie point guard battle it out in training camp and see who wins the backup job.
At worst, you have Vaughn again at backup.
Bye bye Beno, Bonner, Vaughn, Barry, Elson, Butler, and I wish Horry (or back at the min)
Dream on.
Who off that list is a SURE thing to be back?
Who off that list is a SURE thing to be gone?
I wouldn't mind the Spurs dealing for a future pick, but Shannon Brown or a S&T for Pavlovic wouldn't make me sad either.
Sure thing? none of them. But individually, odds are in favor of each of them returning.
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