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Have you even seen Kevin Garnett play? To make a statement like that I highly doubt it.
If we're in' homers, then why hasn't the trade been made yet?
Because we'd have to give up more than Amare. Draft picks, Kurt Thomas, maybe Barbosa. It just isn't worth it. Not for one player who isn't that much better than Amare.
Have you even seen Kevin Garnett play? To make a statement like that I highly doubt it.
And there you go, homer.
Amare for KG is a lateral move for the Suns. It some ways it probably makes them a little bit better, but certainly no lock to beat the Spurs. Suns are either gonna stand pat or persuade the Wolves to take less.
KG playing at the Suns' pace, getting the number of dunks/layups that Amare gets, would average that easily. You could also throw in 4+ assists with that. KG is the better rebounder, passer and defender; has a higher IQ and a better jumpshot.
The only problem is that Amare is young. A KG-Amare trade will put the Suns in top contention for '08 and '09. After that there's no telling how long it'll take them to rebuild and contend again.
That said, if this gives the Suns a better chance at winning the 'ship, they should go for it. The 28 NBA les between 1979-80 and 2006-07 have been won by only 8 franchises. Getting an NBA le is no easy feat. There have been great players (Malone, Stockton, Barkley, Ewing, 'Nique, etc) who didn't win a single ring. 1 or 2 rings and then falling badly is still better than contending for 6-7 years while coming up short every time.
Does anyone think Amare+Barbosa will dominate the league after Nash retires? I wouldn't bet money on that. I think Phoenix's best chance to win a le is the next 2 years with a prime Nash. And KG>Amare for the next 2 years as Nash's running mate, no question.
Um, you do realize that book was written in the 2005-2006 season when Amare didn't even play? I couldn't care less how smart the guy is as long as he can play ball. Why is there so much discussion about Amare and this low IQ thing? Because thats all the haters can say about him. Oh, he screwed up royally and stepped onto the court when he should have known better. Jesus. I am sure the other teams in the league, and more specifically, the Mavs are just filled completely with Rhodes Scholars.
The guy works out probably harder than anyone on the Suns and his desire to win cannot be questioned. He had a very timultous upbringing going to school after school and taking care of his family while his mother was out doing who knows what. He is taking summer courses at ASU. The guy came back stronger than almost everyone thought after the microfracture, but I guess that was a result of his ty at ude.
With that said the Suns have stated publicly that Amare isn't going anywhere in a trade.
KG gives them slightly more versatility on offense and a SIGNIFICANT upgrade on defense. With KG guarding the hoop and Bell defending the perimeter, the defensive shortcomings of Nash are almost totally masked, and that frees up Marion to be even more of an "energy" guy who can ballhawk and create turnovers on defense. The addition of KG turns them from a ty defensive team to above average at worst, even a good defensive team.
This I agree with. The S0ns are finished once Nash is done. Their gimmick offense overly relies on him. So it's imperative to win now while they still have a chance.
D'Antoni is what's really holding them back though. Never before have I seen such an incompetent coach be so overrated.
8 man rotations+no defense=weak ass coaching.
So is that why his work ethic and desire to be a part of a team were questioned throughout the course of that entire book? Is that why he feels he should be the star of the team and resents Nash and fights with Marion cuz he doesn't feel respected enough?
LOL..and where will the almighty Spurs be when Duncan is gone?
spurs' cap situation >>>>>>>>> suns' cap situation
that's why the spurs are the best organization in all of sports
Great things never last forever.Ask the Celtics
Yeah, in the short-term it definitely makes them better, but still no lock to beat the Spurs. And you're sacrificing the rest of Amare's career for two years of Garnett. It's a defensible decision either way -- Nash has two prime years left and they haven't shown they can beat the Spurs as is. Is that worth sacrificing Amare's future? He's young and that explains a lot of his immaturity. I don't know, I lean towards doing it if I'm Phoenix, but stop dogging Amare, even with his flaws, it's no small thing to part with him. I try to get Minnesota satisfied with a package centered around Marion instead. KG and Amare together means that Amare wouldn't be drawing the more difficult defensive assignments -- frees him up to stay out of foul trouble and masks a lot of his defensive flaws.
The Suns would turn KG into a little whiny like they do the rest of their players, mine as well stay on the T-Wolves and at least act like a man
Exactly my point. Maybe they won't be where they are, but Duncan has given us 4 rings already and may end up getting 1 or 2 more. The same can't be said of Nash. He has a 2-year window to get it done.
yes,I did.Now tell me how old is Garnett,and how many games He´ll be able to keep up the sun´s run and gun type of game.40?50 games?
I would keep a young Amare If I was Kerr.
The work ethic was questioned when he kept feeling soreness in his surgically repaired knee and was taking things slowly. NOBODY in Phoenix or the Suns organization is gonna question his work ethic. But since Jack Macallum wrote it in a book it is true? Maybe you should read the book again.
Spurs have won their 'ships though. The S0ns have yet to win a championship. They should be thinking about improving their team as much as possible while their window is still open.
not when he said no already
KG and Amare would be the ideal pairing. I'd be willing to give up quite a lot to see that happen.
Any combination of Marion, Diaw, Banks, KT, this year's draft picks (24 and 29), next year's first-round Atlanta pick (unprotected). Nash, KG, and Amare would be really, really scary.
yeah It would,but I don´t see that Happening.
The TVolves will wont Amare+some players,otherwise they wont do it.
Which is why I just don't see this trade happening.
I don't think either team will be willing to budge.
kerr will do a trade this summer
count on it
all new gms do
yeah that's great. guess what? NOBODY in the Mavericks organization is gonna accuse Dirk of choking. Does it mean that it isn't so?
lmmfao@monosylab1k's hate for amare. its pretty amusing the level of amare hatred on this board. like it or not, dudes a beast. if i'm phx, its hard to give up a young stud big for an aging KG 'specially if you gotta give up even more pieces than amare alone. KG has always been vastly overrated.
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