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    Amare's not going anywhere. It's Marion, picks, and a third team or no deal.
    Dude Marion ing sucks every year in the playoffs especially against the Spurs he blows ass. You are not getting KG without giving up Amare and more.

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    You sound as dumb about trade ideas as some of the rooks here proposing Beno, Bonner, and a second rounder for Kobe.

    First, why would the Wolves take an even worse player in Marion on with his huge salary?

    Second, what third team is going to step up to eat salary like that (we're talking 25 mil for KG) just to help out KG and Phoenix? You won't find a team that stupid unless you can get Isiah involved, and even the Knick ownership would can him for even taking part in a trade like that without even getting his hands on one of the stars.
    You sound as dumb as someone too stupid to understand Marion would go to the third team. As dumb as, well, an aggie.

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    You sound as dumb about trade ideas as some of the rooks here proposing Beno, Bonner, and a second rounder for Kobe.

    First, why would the Wolves take an even worse player in Marion on with his huge salary?

    Second, what third team is going to step up to eat salary like that (we're talking 25 mil for KG) just to help out KG and Phoenix? You won't find a team that stupid unless you can get Isiah involved, and even the Knick ownership would can him for even taking part in a trade like that without even getting his hands on one of the stars.
    Well Kevin McHale is a total dumbass, so I wouldn't consider anything out of the realm of possibility.

    However, while Marion is not better than Amare by any stretch, I think that he's more valuable. If you dump Marion, then who's going to do all the dirty work? Amare has serious ego issues, and I wouldn't expect KG to adapt to a complimentary role (mainly because it doesn't suit him). Also, we'd need another perimeter defender, who can guard the opposing team's perimeter players. Boris Diaw is fat and unmotivated, and James Jones doesn't know offense if it hit him in the face. I want my 34 year old point guard with limited athletic ability and serious health problems doing as little work as he can defensively so he doesn't burn out.

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    I'd love to see KG go to the Suns. I don't think Timmy likes him very much.

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    They would have to give up waaay too much for KG. IMO, I don't think a 31 year old underachiever, that makes more money than anyone is worth it. They need to make Amare improve his defense and they will be much better. They can't depend on Kurt Thomas to stop Duncan. KT is too much of a liability on the court.

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    Well, PGs don't tend to age slowly, when they do lose a step, it's like they've fallen off the edge of a cliff. So you're likely not to see any drop-off in Nash until there is - almost out of nowhere - a significant drop-off.

    And I think 3 years is a fairly safe bet. If KG is still a top performer at 35, that would be a rather rare occurrence. I don't think Spurs fans can count on Duncan being a dominant force for more than 2 or 3 more years.

    garnett is alot more athletic than tim duncan!!!!! garnett if you havent noticed hasnt had any significant injuries...i think duncan retires before garnett..

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    They would have to give up waaay too much for KG. IMO, I don't think a 31 year old underachiever, that makes more money than anyone is worth it. They need to make Amare improve his defense and they will be much better. They can't depend on Kurt Thomas to stop Duncan. KT is too much of a liability on the court.
    LOL @ Garnett being an underachiever.

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    KG aint going nowhere,It´s on the news right now in Phoenix,the suns wont give up Amare.

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    garnett is alot more athletic than tim duncan!!!!! garnett if you havent noticed hasnt had any significant injuries...i think duncan retires before garnett..
    KG's game is really prdicated on being a great athlete which is the first thing to go. Duncan is all about footwork and fundamentals so i bet he is around longer.

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    LOL @ Garnett being an underachiever.
    That is funny he has been out of round 1 once and not in the playoffs at all the last few years. Nobody is asking the guy to win it all but can he lead a team to the playoffs for 's sake.

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    That is funny he has been out of round 1 once and not in the playoffs at all the last few years. Nobody is asking the guy to win it all but can he lead a team to the playoffs for 's sake.
    That's because he's had a hideous supporting cast around him. I can't recall Garnett ever losing a playoff series that I thought the Wolves would win. His playoff averages all improve over his regular season averages, and the only time he had a decent passing point guard (Cassell; when Billups was there he wasn't what he is in Detroit, and Starbury was well.... Starbury) he put up 24/14/5. Against Phoenix this year playing at their pace he was godly (I think he dropped something like 45 and 15 on us). The dude is a perfect fit in Phoenix, and much better than Stoudemire.

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    Amare's not going anywhere. It's Marion, picks, and a third team or no deal.
    You better rephrase that.....I think the Suns would like to deal Amare. He is an immature kid and they actually played better the season he was out with Diaw in his place.

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    That is funny he has been out of round 1 once and not in the playoffs at all the last few years. Nobody is asking the guy to win it all but can he lead a team to the playoffs for 's sake.
    Look at the guys teamates.
    He had good teamates for 2 seasons, one of which he got the WCF. He hasnt had since

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    Look at the guys teamates.
    He had good teamates for 2 seasons, one of which he got the WCF. He hasnt had since
    lebron has teammates, how'd he do?

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    That's because he's had a hideous supporting cast around him. I can't recall Garnett ever losing a playoff series that I thought the Wolves would win. His playoff averages all improve over his regular season averages, and the only time he had a decent passing point guard (Cassell; when Billups was there he wasn't what he is in Detroit, and Starbury was well.... Starbury) he put up 24/14/5. Against Phoenix this year playing at their pace he was godly (I think he dropped something like 45 and 15 on us). The dude is a perfect fit in Phoenix, and much better than Stoudemire.
    I say again he can't get them to the playoffs. You bet TD would get them an 8 seed no doubt about it. KG is a very good player he is not great never has been.

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    [QUOTE=dbreiden83080]KG's game is really prdicated on being a great athlete which is the first thing to go. Duncan is all about footwork and fundamentals so i bet he is around longer.


    im going by injury status...and kg has fundamentals also..he has alot better jumper than timmy does..

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    lebron has teammates, how'd he do?
    Pretty well in the East, key word, East

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    [QUOTE=coachmac87]
    KG's game is really prdicated on being a great athlete which is the first thing to go. Duncan is all about footwork and fundamentals so i bet he is around longer.


    im going by injury status...and kg has fundamentals also..he has alot better jumper than timmy does..
    Yeah and a lot worse postgame. Why do you think he almost never draws double teams? KG's offense is 80% turnaround jumpers.

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    I say again he can't get them to the playoffs. You bet TD would get them an 8 seed no doubt about it. KG is a very good player he is not great never has been.
    KG is top five all time in his position and is a great player. Sure Timmy might be able to get them to an eight seed (although I'm not totally sure about that), but he's one of the top fifteen greatest players of all time and the best at his position all time. Nobody is saying that Garnett is Tim Duncan, but he is and has been consistently a great player and a stone cold lock for the hall of fame.

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    lebron has teammates, how'd he do?
    It's harder for big men, because they can't really dominate games and take over all the scoring burden. Every big man needs great perimeter players to take their team to the next level. When Garnett had that in Sam Cassell, he lead his team to the WCF and won the MVP before Cassell got hurt and they lost to Shaq and Kobe.

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    Yeah and a lot worse postgame. Why do you think he almost never draws double teams? KG's offense is 80% turnaround jumpers.

    look at his assists per game dumb !!!

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    Yeah and a lot worse postgame. Why do you think he almost never draws double teams? KG's offense is 80% turnaround jumpers.
    Yeah KG doesn't draw double teams... he draws triple teams because every else on his team sucks ass. You clearly have never watched him play.

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    Yeah and a lot worse postgame. Why do you think he almost never draws double teams? KG's offense is 80% turnaround jumpers.

    ya he doesnt draw double teams and still averages 5 assist for his career!!! ur an idiot!! so if he did draw double teams he would have jason kidd like assist numbers...kno ur homie

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    look at his assists per game dumb !!!
    That is not becauase of double teams ASSHOLE. He plays more on the perimiter than TD or Shaq does you stupid head. They draw a lot of doubles down low and when they pass it the ball swings a lot, making your team better. You may not get the assist but if it in the end finds the open man then who cares. KG almost never bangs on the low block because he is not strong enough and takes mainly fadeaway jumpers. He is a great passer on the perimiter but passing out of the low post is what makes a team much better. Go home and let the adults handle this.

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    KG should just go to Boston and make the playoffs once again. Who knows, maybe he'll actually make it to the finals over there. As long as he's in the western conference, Bonner will be looming.

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