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Hopefully they can get Sanikidze, Mahinmi, Aaron Miles and others over, and see whos worth it.
Very! Very! Nice move by the Spurs. This should had been done long time ago.
Hopefully they can get Sanikidze, Mahinmi, Aaron Miles and others over, and see whos worth it.
I'm not sure how it would work with Mahinmi. I would think they'd have to sign him to the Spurs and then send him down. I think it would be a little crooked if they could just have him sign there directly with the Toros (and get paid peanuts) instead.
I liked the team so much, I bought the company!
hey so whats the salary like playin on the toros?
If that is the case, would that mean, if Ian wanted to, he also would not be able to sign with any other NBDL team? I mean the NBDL is still a basketball league that does sign its own players to its own contracts, but also serves to allow NBA teams to send down players under NBA contracts. Should be interesting.
It would be pretty awesome if the Toros could sign who ever they wanted to as long as there is no NBA contract already signed.
I imagine they've discussed how these things would work with the league. If the player never gets called up, I'm not sure there would be much of a problem. I can only use Ricky Sanchez as an example, but 1st rounders might be a trickier situation.
Is Quinn Snyder really that bad .. I not to sure on that one ... He's not that bad .. Had some winning years in Mizzou
Yes, I was thinking because he's a first rounder that would make it complicated because of the salary situation.
horrible.Is Quinn Snyder really that bad .. I not to sure on that one ... He's not that bad .. Had some winning years in Mizzou
Well, just like any other corporation in which new mgmt takes over there are def. going to be some changes. I also like the idea of Elie taking over as coach and who knows maybe when the hired Snyder that was the straw that broke the camels back and forced the Spurs into purchasing the team!!
I can allways think of worse coaches ... Terry Stotts anyone ?
Using the Sanchez exmple, I don't see a problem if he doesn't get called up. Seems like the first time they call him up, they'll be starting his rookie deal and if they send him back down he'll still be counted on the Spurs' roster. Now I can see the NBPA having a problem with that, and there might be some question about his being paid for the full season, but it at least seems to be doable.
That's what I'm thinking would be the problem if he got called up. But I guess they could have a rule where he'd get retroactive NBA pay dating back to the beginning of the season if they called him up at all.
As far as Snyder goes, I'm sure Southwest Basketball and the Spurs were in negotiations at the time of his hiring, so it was likely done with the Spurs' blessing.
I would think that, at least to some degree, we're finally moving in the direction of having a true farm system with organizations being able to develop younger players in a developmental league on teams that are very closely associated with the parent franchise.
I can't see how the NBA would permit an organization to cir vent the CBA by signing players to NBDL deals without there being some penalty on the NBA level.
I also wonder a bit about the exclusivity of this arrangement. Does Spurs ownership of the Toros preclude other teams from attempting to call up players on the Toros roster who are not under contract with the Spurs? I don't suppose that all of the Toros players last year were allocated by NBA clubs, and I don't know if those unallocated players were eligible for call-up by any NBA team or whether they could only be called-up by teams affiliated with the Toros. Has that already been discussed without me catching it or, if not, can someone tell me how that works?
But if we are indeed moving in the direction of a farm system, wouldn't it make sense to allow it?I can't see how the NBA would permit an organization to cir vent the CBA by signing players to NBDL deals without there being some penalty on the NBA levelI don't know what the current arrangement is with the D-Fenders. No non-Lakers were called up from that team, but I can't say it was because of any rule. My gut tells me those players were available to any team.I also wonder a bit about the exclusivity of this arrangement. Does Spurs ownership of the Toros preclude other teams from attempting to call up players on the Toros roster who are not under contract with the Spurs?
The biggest benefit I can see from this is that the Spurs will have complete control over the offensive and defensive systems the Toros will run...like the Lakers do with the D-Fenders.
This means players that have played for the Toros called up to the Spurs will come in knowing exactly how the Spurs defensive schemes work, and won't have as much of an incubation period to pick up the D as they have previously.
I don't know exactly what they were running before, perhaps they were already doing what the Spurs were asking of them in an attempt to make them an attractive buy to the Spurs...
But now it's absolutely certain, that team will be running the D(and O) exactly according to the standards of Pop.
It's a great move...it's something that keeps the Spurs ahead of every team in the NBA, and I think it's going to pay dividends with Spurs projects immediately.
That's the #1 benefit I see with this purchase.
I remember reading how the D-Fefenders run the triangle and that was a major reason the Lakers bought them, because it is an unusual system and so they wouldn't have to take as long to pick up the triangle at the NBA level.
Props to Holt and the Spurs on a wise and forward thinking investment...and I am looking forward to seeing Sanikidze and Mahimimi play there this season(maybe even Karaulov). Big Market move....
ChumpD - What's the maximum that DLeaguers make these days? Similar to the CBA, just a few grand a month?
Quinn actually went with RC to the first game of the finals. One of the reasons they hired him was because of a friendship that Snyder and RC had.
Also the rio grande team will be affliliated with the Rockets.
Cheyne Gadson is actually hanging out this summer helping with the camps and learning the "business side" of basketball kind of as an intern.
The Spurs/Toros thing will be awesome. Unfortunatly the Rio Grande team has silver and black.
The salaries are all paid by the league and the amounts depend on criteria they don't make public, but apparently include experince. I think Lance Allred was talking about getting $10-15k for the season, but I'd have to check again. I'm assuming anywhere from $10-$30k. They do get housing for the season as well.
Hopefully the Spurs will be able to use this to increase their own virtually non-existent marketing presence in Austin as well. Austin is a rabid sports market once a team breaks through and catches the interest of the town.
Absolutely. But since we're not all the way to a farm system yet, I'm not sure that it will fly yet.
It's an expensive gambit to avoid the cap and it certainly wouldn't do much to help franchises that are young at the NBA level and are using NBA games to develop players.
I think it would be wonderful if teams could sign 2nd round picks to what amount to minor league contracts (ala MLB) and assign them to a developmental team if they're unable to make the big league squad. But I don't think that the infrastructure exists in the CBA to allow that to happen now.
It's amazing the huge difference between the DLeague/CBA salary and the minimum NBA salary. I know it's a huge step. But the best guys in the lower leagues are so, so close to being the bottom tier players in the NBA.
wtf. Where did the Spurs come up with the money? They were just crying about barely making money the other week .
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