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  1. #51
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    Who said anything about killing all pit bulls? You don't know how to argue do you peewee? Look at me...expecting a rational argument from someone called peewee's lovechild. Pit bulls are PETS, people own them. The rest of those animals you listed are, for the most part, NOT pets. What a dumbass. Come with real, valid points to the argument or stay the out of it. Moron.

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    gotta love people doing the typical new american way of things.

    Just ban this. Make a law. Get rid of it.

    Don't use common sense, and think, hmmmmmm, the dog could be raised badly....

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    You fail to see my sarcastic point-of-view, you pea-brained face.

    You're asking for an animal to change it's very nature.
    If you attack it, or it perceives that it's being provoked to it's defense, of course it's gonna attack. Now, some breeds are more aggresive than others, granted, but every dog, pet or not, is going to have a similar response.

    It's not the animals fault.

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    You fail to see my sarcastic point-of-view, you pea-brained face.

    You're asking for an animal to change it's very nature.
    If you attack it, or it perceives that it's being provoked to it's defense, of course it's gonna attack. Now, some breeds are more aggresive than others, granted, but every dog, pet or not, is going to have a similar response.

    It's not the animals fault.
    bla bla bla bla bla....moron

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    Moron?

    You're the one trying to change an animals nature.

    Go ask Siegfried and Roy how that turned out for them.
    You know, those guys who ass- ed you when you were a little boy.

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    gotta love people doing the typical new american way of things.

    Just ban this. Make a law. Get rid of it.

    Don't use common sense, and think, hmmmmmm, the dog could be raised badly....

    shut the up, nobody asked for your sarcastic opinion you fat .

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    It's ludicrous to try and ban 'pit bulls' since there are about 5 different breeds of dogs that fall into that category.

    It's all about ownership of the dog and raising the dog appropriately and teaching children how to behave around dogs. Be honest - most kids are excitable, they approach dogs loudly and get directly into their faces (perceived as a challenge) and rough-handle the dogs. Younger kids will hit the dogs in the guise of petting them or will pull on their tails or ears.

    I own a 18 pound miniature schauzer who is as sweet as sweet can be, and I will not let kids pet him unless I've directed them first, because he gets overly excited. Jonah will nip and leap at kids in play and I warn them before they approach him, because he could conceivably cause damage. I know the risks I take when removing a toy from his mouth - he allows me to do it because I am alpha, but if another dog or if a child that he doesn't consider alpha tried? Oh, he'd get mean and snappy real quick. And even that small, sweet-tempered little dog can bite hard and hurt when he doesn't intend to. He's broken the skin on my hand in play more than once.

    My friend has a pittie that is the nicest, most well-behaved dog in the world. Very well trained, totally trusting and loving. She keeps him on a short leash in public and has trained him to avoid children (and he loves children more than homemade liver dog treats) because even if he sits and a child in the park approaches him, people freak out because of his breed and yell at my friend for bringing such a dangerous dog near their kids.

    People are ignorant and rely on sensationalist half-truths to form their opinions. It's a real shame.

    Last note - the meanest, scariest dog I ever saw in my life was a standard poodle. 80 pound dog. We'd just gotten Jonah and were in the pet store for the first time. Jonah was not well behaved on the leash, admittedly, but we had him on a short leash to keep him close. He was sitting at my feet when this poodle walked by, 4 ft away. Jonah never made a move towards the poodle for any reason and that animal LUNGED for Jonah, hair on end, ears back, clearly aggressive and growling and barking. His owner ignored it and allowed him a long lead and he continued to lunge for my dog. Then he snapped at me in my direction. Completely unprovoked. We had done nothing and had not paid any attention or made any moves towards the dog. I have never been more scared by a dog in my life. A freaking poodle! Not a well trained owner or dog - that dog should have been on a short leash and probably not allowed in public, displaying that level of aggression.

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    I think we should ban jews, then the worlds problems will disappear.

    - Mel Gibson on his Myspace.

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    Ban penises too, they cause unwanted pregnancies.

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    Ban medicine, overdosing kills.

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    We should also ban vehicles since people have died in car accidents.

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    IMO, anybody who wants to own a dog should have to get a license. They should be required to pass basic courses that teach proper care and training before taking ownership.

    Pit Bull or Pomeranian(have killed as well) it shouldn't matter.
    I agree with this to the fullest extent.

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    However, the difficulty one has in controlling them makes shepherds and rotties better choices. Now go to your room!
    Interesting....................

    http://www.lawdogsusa.org/home.html

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    Who cares about their predisposition to bite humans and whether they are not inclined to do so? Pit Bulls have the ability to inflict serious damage. Maybe more than any other type of dog. I believe they are an inherently unstable dog. The generations upon generations of inbreeding for the specific purpose of fighting has taken a toll on their mental makeup imo.
    The generations upon generations of breeding for fighting has made their mental makeup the exact opposite of what you claim. Do some research on the subject before you state something as fact.

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    gotta love people doing the typical new american way of things.

    Just ban this. Make a law. Get rid of it.

    Don't use common sense, and think, hmmmmmm, the dog could be raised badly....
    IMHO, sometimes a law is necessary for those who don't know how to use common sense. Think about it.

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    Ban pit bulls, it's the American way! We could just exterminate all natural wildlife too (well, we're doing that anyways, slowly). Then no one will be attacked and we can all live happily ever after!

    Seriously now, ban the idiots and put real punishments on animal cruelty. Why is it that if you torture a dog and kill it it's a small fine? And roasting a kitten on a grill alive is once again, just a fine? Lock these maniacs up in prison for 20 years. I thought the whole point of the justice system and prison was to remove dangerous people from society, not fine them and say "don't do it again".

    Now to unleash chaos: Guns accidents kill more innocent people that pit bulls kill innocent people.

    Oh, but guns can save lives too, right? Well so can a dog. And gun accidents are the minority, right? But so are dog attacks too. But how many of you ban-happy socialists will admit that? None? How many of you even own a pet? Why are you letting your children run on a street alone? You worry about dog attacks, how about kidnappings?

    Seriously, do people even think?

    Who cares about their predisposition to bite humans and whether they are not inclined to do so? Pit Bulls have the ability to inflict serious damage. Maybe more than any other type of dog.
    Do you even think, or do you just spout off the first thing that comes to mind? Obviously the latter, but everyone knows you just troll here at ST. Any animal has the ability to inflict serious damage, they all instinctively go for the throat, even a house cat.

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    You cant ban a species of anything it would pointless. Might as well ban sharks from beaches. Humanitarians would never let this float even if it was doable to do in most places.

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    You cant ban a species of anything it would pointless. Might as well ban sharks from beaches. Humanitarians would never let this float even if it was doable to do in most places.
    My point exactly.
    But, some pea-brained faced idiot couldn't see the point.

    I still say we should sterilize all stupid s, to keep them from pro-creating.
    That way, that ing moron who talked to me would have never been born.

    I'm pretty sure God wants this to happen.

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    Who cares about their predisposition to bite humans and whether they are not inclined to do so? Pit Bulls have the ability to inflict serious damage. Maybe more than any other type of dog. I believe they are an inherently unstable dog. The generations upon generations of inbreeding for the specific purpose of fighting has taken a toll on their mental makeup imo.
    should we start banning red necks as well then?

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    Ban penises too, they cause unwanted pregnancies.
    NEVER SAY THIS EVER AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    PENISES ARE PEACEFULL EN IES!!!!!!!!!!!

    Penises are not what's wrong with this world.
    The problem is with vaginas.
    Vaginas give you VD.

    Vaginas are evil.

    But, vaginas are ohhhhhhhhh sooooooooo goooooooood.

    Can anybody spare a vagina for a lonely penis????

    Send me a private message if you can spare a vagina.

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    The generations upon generations of breeding for fighting has made their mental makeup the exact opposite of what you claim. Do some research on the subject before you state something as fact.
    Most animal experts -- like San Francisco Department of Animal Care & Control Director Carl Friedman -- believe there's no proof that pit bulls are more inherently aggressive than other breeds. However, when they do attack, they are capable of doing tremendous damage. Bred to take down bulls 10 times their size, their strength and tenacity honed as illegal sport-fighting animals, pit bulls are the cheap protection of choice for drug dealers, criminals, pimps and those simply wanting a macho status symbol. To add to the misery, pit bulls, according to those working in animal rescue, are the most overbred and abused dog on the planet -- beaten, burned, starved, chained, forced to fight.

    While many pit bulls are well-loved pets, it's hard to know which version is coming down the street. To many people, pit bulls are scary: "Frankenstein canines," as one legislator called them, with bulging chest and shoulder muscles, a brick-like snout and looming square head. With an estimated 1,200 pounds of force per square inch (according to the Journal of Trauma in 1989), a pit bull's jaw has 10 times the crushing power of those of other large dogs, including German Shepherds, Rottweilers and Dobermans. Pit bulls don't just bite, they clamp. In a few terrifying, frenzied moments, they can "de-glove" the flesh from a human arm, pull limbs off, penetrate clear through the abdomen, snap the body's largest bones.

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    "Most animal experts -- like San Francisco Department of Animal Care & Control Director Carl Friedman -- believe there's no proof that pit bulls are more inherently aggressive than other breeds. However, when they do attack, they are capable of doing tremendous damage. Bred to take down bulls 10 times their size, their strength and tenacity honed as illegal sport-fighting animals, pit bulls are the cheap protection of choice for drug dealers, criminals, pimps and those simply wanting a macho status symbol. To add to the misery, pit bulls, according to those working in animal rescue, are the most overbred and abused dog on the planet -- beaten, burned, starved, chained, forced to fight."



    What is your point? This is exactly what I've been saying all along.

    I said they are no more aggressive than any other dog, unless trained to be. I said bad people get their hands on them to seem tougher and train them to fight. I said Pitbulls are abused by terrible owners.

    Are you now agreeing with me? You were arguing that they were more inclined to bite humans, and this quote does nothing to backup your claim. You also said because they weren't able to be properly trained, police forces would never use them. I showed you proof that they make excellent police dogs, along with search and rescue dogs. You won't win this one by calling my rebuttals "weak sauce", sorry.

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    "Because two handlers and a referee were in the pit with the dogs, the breed was selected for amazing stability; a calm, friendly manner with people - even under extreme pressure. Dogs which lashed out at humans, even strangers, while fighting or in pain were not tolerated. Amicability is the well bred American pit bull's heritage."


    Anyone who says its nature over nurture is foolish.

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    "There is no do ented case where a single, neutered, household pit bull was the cause of a human fatality.” Karen Delise, Author of Fatal Dog Attacks

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