I agree that this episode was the least interesting, but I watched hoping for some answers.
Maybe there is no plan for another season.
each of the main characters seems to have changed in a positive way except for cissy (and link i guess). she's basically devolved even further, which is interesting. for no reason i thought that butchie and mitch in the water together would have sparked something.
Even Cissy had a mellow moment at the end of the last episode when she was talking to the Chemist
According to HBO's website, the Chemist's name is Erlemeyer; he was a 19th century chemist who invented the Erlemeyer flask and formulated the Erlemeyer Rule
My guess is "Erlemeyer" is a tip of the hat to either Augustus Owsley "Bear" Stanley III or Hershberger
Cissy is supposed to be an old acid head, but DeMorney is playng her as either a burned out speed freak, or a casualty of angel dust
I have watched all 9 episodes to date and I'm convinced that they aren't going to wrap up anything next episode. No new season, no closure, and no answers. It's like Deadwood...great characters and visuals, but the plot just wanders around aimlessly and even they don't understand it or have any idea how to satisfactorily wrap it up with a bow.
Sissy is one hot GMILF though...
Damn, they better give me some kind of answer in the last show coming up. And I have to watch Sissy run around, kicking , yelling, and blowing cigarette smoke at things I'm going to lose it. That act is getting very tired.
I have always meant to catch this show. worth watching?
i'd recommend it.
The show is definitely intriguing. Did you know Shaun is played by Greyson Fletcher, son of surfing legend Christian Fletcher? Greyson is a professional surfer and skater. I believe he is the boy in the opening credits -- it cuts between old surf videos and skating. Now, Christian Fletcher was the person who developed "aerials." If you recall, Butchie is mentioned as popularizing aerials as well. There are other parallels between the two; Christian Fletcher left the surfing scene and became a drug addict. Aside from this, if you look at the credits list:
http://www.imdb.com/ le/tt0814164/fullcredits#cast
You will notice Dibi Fletcher and Herbie Fletcher. This is Christian Fletcher's mother and father, respectively. Herbie was a Long Board surfer -- another parallel with the show between Butchie and Mitch. They are credited with consulting.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_from_cincinnati
The series includes surfing sequences by well-respected surfers Brock Little, Keala Kennelly, Dan Malloy (surfer), John-John Florence, Shane Beschen, and Herbie Fletcher.
Always meant to catch it, but I don't have HBO though. Looks like a good show.
Rumor is that it won't be renewed.
Link
A source inside HBO, who wished to remain anonymous, has informed TV Blogger that HBO will not pick up John From Cincinnati for a second season.
A second individual, who works on the show itself, also suggested that that John will not be back. "I don't know for sure, but from what I've heard, the grape vine and such, we won't be back" for another season.
The show has struggled since its debut, garnering mixed reviews and drowning in the ratings. That it's the most confusing show in television history can't have helped. My sincere hope is that HBO brass pushes Milch into bringing back Deadwood.
The season one (series) finale airs August 12th.
Thanks for the link.
It is a great show, I was hoping they could maintain it.
I'll be thrilled if Deadwood comes back.
if it's not going to be renewed , i want some answers next week, dammit!!!
don't leave me hanging like you did in Carnivale
There is no way they wrap it up next week. They will leave us hanging and hope that viewer response forces HBO to renew or they will hope to get picked up by a different network.
Bump.
Just saw the season finale.
Could take me a week to figure out what the went on.
Chime in when you see it and please sort this out for me!
I'm as lost as you are. WTF?
I want Deadwood back, I want Carnivale back... and I want John from Cincinatti to return.
goddamn HBO.
I'm with you on all 3 shows.
Carnivale was intense and they left us at the peak of the battle with no answers!
Deadwood was/is one of my all time favorite shows, I really liked it.
I guess there's rumor that maybe Milch will do something with it if John From Cincinnati isn't coming back.
I had heard that there would be 2 two hour movies on HBO to "wrap" Deadwood up but I can't find anything to confirm that.
If HBO doesn't bring any of these back we can only hope that they've got something else equally as great for us soon!
Oh...I'm going to watch last night's John again in the hope that I can start to figure out wtf it was about!
WFT happend last night? Aye aye aye. I guess I'll have to watch it again.
Please tell me when you figure it out.
Watched the whole season and I can only really come to one main conclusion after this last episode.
John basically restored balance to that little universe in Imperial Beach. Everyone (for the most part) got their life back in the end, they were in a better place than when they were at the beginning of the show.
Butchie was back surfing and has re-connected with his son and with Kai.
Ed Oniell's character finally went upstairs and talked with his deceased wife, also had his bird come back, doesn't have to worry about Shaun anymore.
Barry came to terms with the history of room 24, and obviously the voices in his head he can now ignore or at least turn their message into a more positive one.
Link isn't the backstabbing corporate asshole that he was, he makes peace with the Yost family and helps the mom/porno actress re-connect with her son and a life away from porn.
Lawyer stein (sp?) finds passion again in his relationship/satisfcation?
Kai connects again with Butchie, kind of re-ignites their old relationship with each other.
Sissy at the end finds some kind of peace with her history/interaction with Butchie when he was young, accpets that she needs to move on in her marriage with Mitch while letting Butchie and Tina become parents to their child.
The thug guy living at the motel complex gets out of the drug selling business-opens up a new life for himself.
The doctor finds a new meaning to his life, opens up a clinic to help those less fortunate.
Sean seems to be the glue holding these people together, he accepts them all for who they are and continues to love them. He's also moving back in with his dad at the end, and you can tell that Butchie loves him a great deal.
John, who the knows? Still thinking about this one. From his words he makes himself to be, I don't know, the son of Jesus? Something along those lines? I'm still very confused as to who he is exactly, but he does seem to have very strong morals/beliefs which effect others in a positive manner. Still have to think some more on this one.
Anyway, that's all I can come up with for now, any other thoughts, ideas?
Wow...thanks Ballcox. Great analysis. Everything you say makes perfect sense. I was too blown out by the pace of it last night to take it apart like you did. They threw it all at us so fast it was hard to digest.
John did restore balance, what a brilliant insight. And he did it the way it needed to be done...by throwing them all more off balance. I like the idea of John being some kind of spiritual person, I didn't want to think of him as evil. His words about his father and his father's father do bring Jesus to mind, but maybe it's simpler than that. Maybe it's the link we all have, to our own fathers and to the people who matter in our lives.
I'm going to watch it again, with what you've said in mind.
Thanks for the great post.
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