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cuz lifes a . invest in headphones.
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From the looks of things, we have quite a few posters who don't have children yet, and they're in for a rude awakening.
Exactly. Nowthat my kids are older and "semi-trained" the only thing I think when I hear a kid losing it in a public place is "Thank God that's not mine!" and chuckle to myself.
cuz lifes a . invest in headphones.
i took my kid to see transformers too. 11 months. he was cool for 45 minutes. then started to get cranky. i just took him to the side, and if he got too loud we went out of the theatre all together. he fell asleep after about 40 minutes and i caught all the action at the end of the movie with the kid asleep in my lap.
seems like common courtesy to me.
How about the "poking game" in the car? Argh!!
I get the arm rest up/down thing. And son number one thinks he's son number two's alternative father. I have to constantly remind him that I do not need reinforcement.How about the "poking game" in the car? Argh!!
Sadly, I probably know more than a lot of people who do have kids. That's the problem.
There are a lot of children who are complete assholes because they are allowed to be. And it's getting worse.
And I beg to differ about the last line. There are quite a few parents who could give a less if their kid was bothering anyone because their kid can do no wrong. Or that they rarely interact with their kids in the first place to know any different.
Eh ... I'm ultra-sensitive to how my kids behave in public. The only movies I'd ever take them to see anyway when they were little were movies for kids ... like Finding Nemo or whatever. And if there's an adult that gets pissed at kids misbehaving during the Finding Nemo matinee on a Saturday afternoon, they can pretty much..well, I really don't know what to say to that.
I'm gonna have to agree...there are A LOT of parents that have that 'kids will be kids' or 'you know how boys are' or 'my kid would never do that'.
However, there are just some kids that no matter what you do, just don't behave. Also, you have to cut some slack because you don't know if a child is mentally diabled, sick, etc.
Sometimes when I'm at my 2nd home and I see a kid crying, I'll say to them, "That's okay...I don't want to be here either!"Eh ... I'm ultra-sensitive to how my kids behave in public. The only movies I'd ever take them to see anyway when they were little were movies for kids ... like Finding Nemo or whatever. And if there's an adult that gets pissed at kids misbehaving during the Finding Nemo matinee on a Saturday afternoon, they can pretty much..well, I really don't know what to say to that.
You're obviously en led to your opinion, Chopper. My beef is with the folks that either can't control their kids, choose not to control their kids, or don't respect their fellow passengers by thinking "kids will be kids" and that we should have to deal with their behavior without being annoyed.
Oh yeah, and Melmart1 made a good point earlier whe she mentioned the majority of kids are pretty well behaved on planes and that I'm pinpointing the bad apples. That has a lot of truth to it, but there's a lot of bad apples out there for whatever reason. Maybe it's just summer travel.
I am pretty amused by how pissed off some of the parents got in this thread about childless folks like myself being irritated by being locked into a flying cigar tube with a screaming child. Congrats, you reproduced. That doesn't give you a merit badge in telling us how to deal with your wailing kiddos. We just want them silenced for a few hours. Is that too much to ask?
Most parents (like I said earlier) seem to have a handle on that concept, and I'm willing to bet that most posters in this thread are good about making sure their children are well-behaved in public. Those that don't are the focus of my argument, so don't act like you've never been irritated by someone else's kid throwing a fit on an airplane and the parents not doing anything about it.
Didn't someone once say, "I was the perfect parent, until I had children."
Most of the parents want them silenced too. Heck there have been many times that duct tape has tempted me.
Sure, and I think the reply was, "The thing that impresses me most about America is the way parents obey their children."
I was thinking the same thing.
Did the kid have an accent?
Thank you.gigantic DITTO to this entire post, very well put.
and I wanted to add that I'm actually very shocked the toddler wasn't throwing a huge fit and being uber cranky after an 11 hr layover.
Maybe the flight attendant shoulda took a nap before she boarded the plane.
I am not a parent but as someone who has taken an active role in currently raising a niece and 2 nephews, I am beginning to understand what parents go through. There are some really crappy ones out there and there are some great ones but its never perfect. Even the best parents have bad days with the kids. You have to be tolerant.
I flew exactly three times before my 18th birthday. All three were trans-Atlantic flights to military assignments. We drove everywhere else. I don't see how people can afford to fly with kids, even with current gas prices. Pack up that huge SUV with the dual flip down plasma gaming/DVD system and get your ass on the road. Even a two day drive with one overnight is probably going to be cheaper than flying if it's 4 or 5 people. See the country.
I just flew
3 20 year old boys
were LOUD did not get thrown
out saying I have to pee
that lady needs to get a life just because she is having a bad day does that mean she has the right to take it out on everyone
people say do not travel with kids are wrong
you can not leave your kids home always and you have to travel do to work
No . We go out to CA every Christmas and always drive. We were thinking of flying this year, but we'd also have to rent a car as we were gonna fly non-stop into San Diego. With the flight, car rental, and boarding the dog, it was gonna cost us over $3K. Looks like I will be spending the night in beautiful Las Cruces, NM again this year!
I fly semi-frequently with work and can tell you that it SUCKS being near a loud, crying or whiny child. And why on earth do parents insist on giving them toys that make loud noises to play with on the plane??
There are several kids I would have had to kill were it not for my iPod and PSP. I just crank my iPod up full blast and play games on the PSP. The kids don't bug me after that.
I was on a Southwest flight recently from Phoenix to Burbank. A few girls sitting around me were models and were headed towards Brazil a few days after this particular flight. One of the girls in particular was talking very loudly, cussing and just acting obnoxious. Of course the flight attendants (male) were falling all over themselves in love with her so they didn't tell her to quiet down. An older couple sitting across from my got up and moved. I just cranked up my iPod.
i flew with my kid one time...and it was just from here to atlanta.
when the little ones are fussy, there is only so much you can do...but he was cool for the most part.
i booked at a later date than wifey, so on the 2nd flight, she had him and i was 15 rows in front of her....she was on a 3 seat row and next to a couple so i couldn't switch. and i was on an emergency exit row so no kids allowed.
i unfortunately had to sit next to some venezuelen chicky wearing really tight clothes. well...there was an empty seat between us. we started to chat towards the end of the flight as she was noticing i was on my 6th beer and jamming to the tunes. we split the last beer. so like i was saying...traveling with the little ones isn't easy...
When I first read the le I will admit, I was thinking " YES, FINALLY!!!" I ing HATE people who cant shut their kids loud ass traps..... then I read the story and thats kind of ed up...
I wish they had this kind of zero tolerance's in movie theaters though. you ing parents who bring your kids to movies NOT meant for children... ohh, Im sure everyone here is like "ohh, thats not me!!" Trust me.... its you. If you bring your kid into an "R" rated movie.... its ing you... ING DIE!!!!
If I ever win the lotto I'm going to open a theater and call it "We kill loud ass kids and their stupid ing parents so stay the away - 14" or something equally catchy.
It will have 14 theaters.
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what will your refreshment prices be like?
since there will be no kids I obviously wont be able to rob people blind because there wont be some little ing gremlin running around screaming popcorn/soda....
Id probably still jack the prices on candy and just to weed out the wussies.... It would have a full service bar with 20 beers on tap served in a 20oz glass.... 2.00 Domestic, 3.00 import...
ahh... a man can dream....
You'll like this story then:
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1Flight attendants often deal with obnoxious passengers who won't listen to instructions by kicking them off the plane. But a Massachusetts couple think AirTran Airways went overboard by treating their crying 3-year-old daughter in much the same way.
Julie and Gerry Kulesza and daughter Elly were removed from the flight when the girl refused to take her seat before takeoff, airline officials said Tuesday. But her parents said they just needed a little more time to calm her down.
The Kuleszas planned to fly home to Boston on Jan. 14 from Fort Myers after a four-day visit with the girl's paternal grandparents. She was removed because "she was climbing under the seat and hitting the parents and wouldn't get in her seat" during boarding, AirTran spokeswoman Judy Graham-Weaver said.
AirTran officials say they were only following Federal Aviation Administration rules that children age 2 and above must have their own seat and be wearing a seatbelt upon takeoff.
"The flight was already delayed 15 minutes and in fairness to the other 112 passengers on the plane, the crew made an operational decision to remove the family," Graham-Weaver said.
But Julie Kulesza said: "We weren't giving an opportunity to hold her, console her or anything."
"Elly was sitting in front of our seat crying," she said in a phone interview. "The attendant motioned to a seat and asked if we purchased it for her."
They had paid for the seat. Gerry Kulesza said another attendant then approached the family and told him: "You need to get her in control and in her seat."
The couple told the attendants they were trying. Julie Kulesza said she asked the attendants if Elly could sit on her lap, but they said no.
The family flew home the next day.
The Orlando-based carrier reimbursed the family $595.80, the cost of the three tickets, and offered them three roundtrip tickets anywhere the airline flies, Graham-Weaver said.
But that's too little, too late for the Kuleszas. The father said they would never fly AirTran again.
BTW, after the story broke, AirTran received over 14,000 emails and calls overwhelmingly supporting them for their actions.
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