Is it TD's Team or TP's team in 08

[BIG z]

All i am saying is that he has not been putting great numbers in the Reg season last there years, some beacuse of injuries, but he was healthy last year and barely got 20 and 10 , all i am saying is that gonna be there with the progression of Tony Parker, is TD still going to be a 20 10 guy.

[BIG z]

Exactly no other SUPERSTAR gets rapped by the refs as does TImmy. Tim gets called constantly 4 touched fouls while he gets hacked an nothin is called

But to be honest TD wines alot too

[jaespur21]

All i am saying is that he has not been putting great numbers in the Reg season last there years, some beacuse of injuries, but he was healthy last year and barely got 20 and 10 , all i am saying is that gonna be there with the progression of Tony Parker, is TD still going to be a 20 10 guy.

Where u from man CALI numbers dont mean

[TDMVPDPOY]

all those clowns who think this is TPS team, go watch that tim duncan adidas commercial, are you a fool?

[BIG z]

Where u from man CALI numbers dont mean

No i am from San Antonio..

[THE SIXTH MAN]

All i am saying is that he has not been putting great numbers in the Reg season last there years, some beacuse of injuries, but he was healthy last year and barely got 20 and 10 , all i am saying is that gonna be there with the progression of Tony Parker, is TD still going to be a 20 10 guy.

Like I said earlier, Pop has seriously regulated the teams minutes especially the big three. Add to that that the large deficits that the spurs were winning by after the all star break and then you got Tim practically not even seeing the floor during the 4th quarter.

Bottom line is Tim's playoff numbers have been consistent. And that's all that really matters.

[BIG z]

Did u all notice when During the Cermoney in the Almodome when TD got up every one was cheering MVP and then TP realized this is not his town and said i am just borrowing this Final MVP trophy for a year from Timmy, that kind of said alot. The main thing is that fan will always believe in Timmy, that all i wanted to know.

[Man In Black]

All i am saying is that he has not been putting great numbers in the Reg season last there years, some beacuse of injuries, but he was healthy last year and barely got 20 and 10 , all i am saying is that gonna be there with the progression of Tony Parker, is TD still going to be a 20 10 guy.

NO, you asked point blank if in 08, if the Spurs were Tony's team. See the le of the response?

Why don't you find out who is more effective per minute. TP ain't all of a sudden going to be a 20 point 10 assists per game guy does that make him any less important? NO. The Spurs need for Tim to have more 20-10 games than for TP to get 20-10. Someone has to do the interior dirty work that predicates the Spurs offensively and defensively and until Tim cannot, he is the #1 option BAR NONE.

It's a simple stat that can be found right here->
http://www.82games.com/0607/playoffs/0607SAS.HTM

For those very same playoffs look at the roland ratings to see in terms of importance by statistics, who played well through out the ENTIRE playoffs.

I see Duncan as #1 and see Parker #6.

I give much props to TP for working on the nuances of his jumper and his growing hoop intellect and his time as a perenial star will come soon but before one can say, TP's team in 08 can TP make at least 1 ALL-NBA team...even a 3rd team placement would be cool. TD has as many straight as Larry Legend. Can you see where your misguided emphasis is taking you now?

[Man In Black]

I'm from Cali and numbers are UNIVERSAL.
Localism sucks- the beaches are public, the chicks are hot and the Spurs own the NBA le once again.

May next year be a mere formality and let the back-to-back come to fruition.

[AnkleBreaker21]

NO, you asked point blank if in 08, if the Spurs were Tony's team. See the le of the response?

Why don't you find out who is more effective per minute. TP ain't all of a sudden going to be a 20 point 10 assists per game guy does that make him any less important? NO. The Spurs need for Tim to have more 20-10 games than for TP to get 20-10. Someone has to do the interior dirty work that predicates the Spurs offensively and defensively and until Tim cannot, he is the #1 option BAR NONE.

It's a simple stat that can be found right here->
http://www.82games.com/0607/playoffs/0607SAS.HTM

For those very same playoffs look at the roland ratings to see in terms of importance by statistics, who played well through out the ENTIRE playoffs.

I see Duncan as #1 and see Parker #6.

I give much props to TP for working on the nuances of his jumper and his growing hoop intellect and his time as a perenial star will come soon but before one can say, TP's team in 08 can TP make at least 1 ALL-NBA team...even a 3rd team placement would be cool. TD has as many straight as Larry Legend. Can you see where your misguided emphasis is taking you now?

[BIG z]

NO, you asked point blank if in 08, if the Spurs were Tony's team. See the le of the response?

Why don't you find out who is more effective per minute. TP ain't all of a sudden going to be a 20 point 10 assists per game guy does that make him any less important? NO. The Spurs need for Tim to have more 20-10 games than for TP to get 20-10. Someone has to do the interior dirty work that predicates the Spurs offensively and defensively and until Tim cannot, he is the #1 option BAR NONE.

It's a simple stat that can be found right here->
http://www.82games.com/0607/playoffs/0607SAS.HTM

For those very same playoffs look at the roland ratings to see in terms of importance by statistics, who played well through out the ENTIRE playoffs.

I see Duncan as #1 and see Parker #6.

I give much props to TP for working on the nuances of his jumper and his growing hoop intellect and his time as a perenial star will come soon but before one can say, TP's team in 08 can TP make at least 1 ALL-NBA team...even a 3rd team placement would be cool. TD has as many straight as Larry Legend. Can you see where your misguided emphasis is taking you now?

Good for you, probably did take u alot of time finding that website, but u did make ur point, u should somehow get that to genral spurs and Nba fans to tell them how great #21 Really is and that they should appreciate him more...

[Man In Black]

So Big Z...
Whose team is it in 08?

[BIG z]

I would say the guy in my avatar..

[BIG z]

Man i am the very big TD fan and it really hurt me not seeing him win the Finals MVP, all i wanted to know what do the fans think after TP won the MVP that who does the team belong to..

[milkyway21]

Since TP won the Finals MvP and Duncan on the downside of his career, who's team will it be comming 07-08 season..

once again I almost choked on my coffee.

[v2freak]

Man i am the very big TD fan and it really hurt me not seeing him win the Finals MVP, all i wanted to know what do the fans think after TP won the MVP that who does the team belong to..

I too, did not win anyone but TD to win the Finals MVP. There would be talk about who's team it would be, TP's ego would get even bigger, there would be talks about a decline and future debaters will point to TD as having not only 2 all-star players but a Finals MVP quality one as well.

[raspsa]

It would be a struggle but I can imagine a Spurs team winning the championship w/o Parker. Can't imagine them doing it without Duncan.

[Extra Stout]

Is this thread serious?

[Findog]

It was going to be Scola's team...until they foolishly traded him away. Seriously, that dude is going to be a BEAST!!!! He makes Timmy look like a D-Leaguer. Seriously, the Spurs are going to rue the day they didn't make Scola their starting PF and traded Timmy to the Rockets.

[TDMVPDPOY]

plz lock this thread

we dont want TP to get a big head and tpfans to get a big head here, we dont want drama

[bdictjames]

Re ed, ed up thread.

Duncan has 20 and 10 because he's unselfish. He isn't the guy that wants to pick up stats and win MVP awards. He's there for things you cant put on the stat sheet which is hustle and leadership.

Also, I admit Duncan didn't have a great series against Cleveland on the offensive end. He was double teamed a lot by big, capable defenders namely Ilgauskas and Varejao. And who was guarding Parker? Hobbled Hughes and a boobie the rookie. Go figure who's gonna score more.

Its TD's team till he retires. I dont see why you have so little faith on the big fundamental.

[Warlord23]

Also, while Parker was the Finals MVP, Duncan was the playoffs MVP. When you consider that the Finals was the easiest series in this playoff run, Duncan hanging 27 and 14 on the Suns through a tough 6-game series counts for a lot.

When you play a sucky East team whose starting PG is hobbled (Hughes) and whose back-ups are Eric Snow and Damon Jones, Parker had an easy time of it overall.

Whereas Duncan went up against Nene/Camby in round 1, Amare/Thomas in round 2, Boozer/Memo in the WCF. And he was still the best player on the floor, statistically and otherwise, in each of those series.

Duncan helped us get out of the West, which is 10X tougher than roughing up a sorry Cavs team.

[Switchman]

TD team forever. Tony will leave as soon as TD is out anyways.

[George Gervin's Afro]

TD,TD,TD..let's all it together now....TD, TD, TD

[stretch]

IMO, Ginobili is more important to the teams success than Parker. Someone said Parker is like Duncan's Pippen, but I think that Ginobili deserves that le more. No one hits nearly as many big shots as Ginobili does. Throughout the playoffs and even in the finals, I felt Ginobili made more of the clutch baskets and daggers than Parker. Parker had the best numbers through the series though, and thats why he won it. But Duncan and Ginobili are both more important to the team's success IMO. And one could even argue that Bowen is a more important player for the Spurs than both Parker and Ginobili. Either way, this team will be Duncan's team till he leaves.