F the Lux Tax Monster

[whottt]

Hopefully the Spurs dump that worthless Barry soon. $5 mil per? Absolute robbery.

[GSH]

New York has carried those large payrolls because they haven't had the luxury of the league's best player.

Bull . The Knicks have carried those large payrolls because they went out year after year and paid too much for a bunch of questionable, mis-matched talent. They fell in love with guys like Alan Houston and Stephon Marbury and said, "We gotta get this guy in here, even if we have to pay a premium to do it." They looked at individual talent, rather than putting together a cohesive squad. (Isiah Thomas couldn't think his way out of a lab rat maze.) With that huge payroll came huge expectations, which they didn't live up to, and the Knicks became a laughing stock. There are no players willing to "take a little less" and go to the Knicks, because they want to win.

A lot of people here are acting like Scola is a guaranteed franchise player. (One claimed that he will be the "best PF in the NBA this year, next to Tim Duncan".) If that were really the case, and it was that obvious, don't you think that someone would have stepped up and offered him more than $9.3 M over three years? Wouldn't some other team have said, "Screw the luxury tax, we need this guy"? Maybe even offered him enough to make his buyout last season and get on with winning a championship?

The Spurs wanted to get Scola on the roster. They really did. They put a lot of time and thought into it. But in the end, the deal didn't make sense in context. They had the discipline to let go. Isiah Thomas would have closed his eyes and thrown money at the problem.

[Solid D]

@ the picture

[Marcus Bryant]

So the Spurs can just give away talent simply because it isn't talent with superstar potential? That's whottt dumb.

[whottt]

Duncan rested 14 minutes a night last season. Scola would've been a nice backup.

So basically...you think Scola's better than Manu, you know, the guy who runs the team when Duncan is on the bench. Stick to whining...you're better at it.

[whottt]

So the Spurs can just give away talent simply because it isn't talent with superstar potential? That's whottt dumb.

Yes....they can.


The last time you(and the Spurs) went on a SuperStar kick was Jason Kidd...which completely ed us for the following year. And possibly longer...Leandro...or should I say David?

And how you like Tony Parker now?

[Marcus Bryant]

Bull . The Knicks have carried those large payrolls because they went out year after year and paid too much for a bunch of questionable, mis-matched talent. They fell in love with guys like Alan Houston and Stephon Marbury and said, "We gotta get this guy in here, even if we have to pay a premium to do it." They looked at individual talent, rather than putting together a cohesive squad. (Isiah Thomas couldn't think his way out of a lab rat maze.) With that huge payroll came huge expectations, which they didn't live up to, and the Knicks became a laughing stock. There are no players willing to "take a little less" and go to the Knicks, because they want to win.

A lot of people here are acting like Scola is a guaranteed franchise player. (One claimed that he will be the "best PF in the NBA this year, next to Tim Duncan".) If that were really the case, and it was that obvious, don't you think that someone would have stepped up and offered him more than $9.3 M over three years? Wouldn't some other team have said, "Screw the luxury tax, we need this guy"? Maybe even offered him enough to make his buyout last season and get on with winning a championship?

The Spurs wanted to get Scola on the roster. They really did. They put a lot of time and thought into it. But in the end, the deal didn't make sense in context. They had the discipline to let go. Isiah Thomas would have closed his eyes and thrown money at the problem.

Incorrect. The Knicks have carried those large payrolls as they have been in search of the superstar to build the team around.

The Spurs have $20 mil coming off the books next season, so the Knicks comparison isn't even close. Try again.

[Marcus Bryant]

So basically...you think Scola's better than Manu, you know, the guy who runs the team when Duncan is on the bench. Stick to whining...you're better at it.

So what would be wrong with Manu and Scola on the court at the same time?

Damn man, step up your game.

[whottt]

So what would be wrong with Manu and Scola on the court at the same time?

Because I'd rather have someone to start and guard TMac and LeBron than a back up who Pop won't play because he doesn't play D, or rebound.

Guys that can play well with Manu when Duncan is off the court are a dime a dozen...in fact, we already have a roster full of them. Including one that does everything Scola does...and some things he doesn't.

[Marcus Bryant]

Yes....they can.


The last time you(and the Spurs) went on a SuperStar kick was Jason Kidd...which completely ed us for the following year. And possibly longer...Leandro...or should I say David?

And how you like Tony Parker now?

Kidd and Duncan together for the last 4 seasons would not have ' ed the Spurs over'.

[ArgSpursFan]

Duncan rested 14 minutes a night last season. Scola would've been a nice backup.

nothing to be worried about.We just signed Bonner for 3 yrs.

[Marcus Bryant]

So what would be wrong with Manu and Scola on the court at the same time?

Because I'd rather have someone to start and guard TMac and LeBron than a back up who Pop won't play because he doesn't play D, or rebound.

Guys that can play well with Manu when Duncan is off the court are a dime a dozen...in fact, we already have a roster full of them.

That makes no sense. Your attempt at obsfuscation has failed. Try again.

[MannyIsGod]

If you transpose 08 plan into this years posts by MB ing about Scola then you have last years ST offseason. How about that 08 plan, MB?

[whottt]

Kidd and Duncan together for the last 4 seasons would not have ' ed the Spurs over'.

Um...Kidd hasn't even been healthy enough to be on the court 40% of the time the last 4 seasons. I'd rather not pay 20 million a year for that...Isiah.

[whottt]

If MB had his way CWebb and Kidd would be pulling down 40 mil a year annually....and Drob would have finished his career in NY.

[Marcus Bryant]

If you transpose 08 plan into this years posts by MB ing about Scola then you have last years ST offseason. How about that 08 plan, MB?

Ask someone else.

How's Holt's taste?

[MannyIsGod]

You gonna stop being a fan MB or does ratcheting up your level of ing meet the requirements of your nonacceptance by Spurs fans?

[Marcus Bryant]

Um...Kidd hasn't even been healthy enough to be on the court 40% of the time the last 4 seasons. I'd rather not pay 20 million a year for that...Isiah.

?

Kidd missed 4 games between the last two seasons. Try arguing without misrepresentation, if you can.

[Marcus Bryant]

You gonna stop being a fan MB or does ratcheting up your level of ing meet the requirements of your nonacceptance by Spurs fans?

When will you cease posting your opinions on the internets?

[Marcus Bryant]

If MB had his way CWebb and Kidd would be pulling down 40 mil a year annually....and Drob would have finished his career in NY.

If whottt had his way the Spurs would feature Tim Duncan surrounded by 4 perimeter shooting white guys.

[MannyIsGod]

Ask someone else.

How's Holt's taste?

Its so easy to derail your ing because I simply point to your track record of off season posts. You complain and complained last year about how cheap the Spurs were and how they weren't doing what it took to win now by saving for some magical 08 plan which many of us told you probably didn't exsist.

Whoops?

I guess they did what they needed to win now and the plan you guys cooked up in your heads isn't exactly there, is it?

I'm not happy with the trade and I think they could have gotten better from it but I see the reasoning for it and I'm not ready to sit here for weeks and about it when the Spurs are in a fine position to repeat without Scola. Yeah, Butler was a nice prospect last year but this year he was deadwood. He didn't pan out for the Spur and I'm not going to cry tears over him leaving.

But yeah, I guess being rational about things must mean I'm all over Holts . Nice.

[whottt]

That makes no sense. Your attempt at obsfuscation has failed. Try again.

It's called Roster Slots...and like it or not, there's a thing called a salary cap that limits spending on FA. And now...throwing the MLE at anyone with an on court skill every offseason isn't an intelligent way to maximize the potential of the Duncan era, Mitch.

[Marcus Bryant]

Its so easy to derail your ing because I simply point to your track record of off season posts. You complain and complained last year about how cheap the Spurs were and how they weren't doing what it took to win now by saving for some magical 08 plan which many of us told you probably didn't exsist.

I'll cease my disagreements with the Spurs' cheapness when you cease complaining about situations you have no control over on the internets.

Also, regarding '08, if the Spurs don't sign anyone else it could very well be in effect. So it might be a bit early to proclaim the death of that.

[Marcus Bryant]

It's called Roster Slots...and like it or not, there's a thing called a salary cap that limits spending on FA. And now...throwing the MLE at anyone with an on court skill every offseason isn't an intelligent way to maximize the potential of the Duncan era, Mitch.

ROFL. So how does that make Scola a bad fit as the Spurs' backup 4?

[MannyIsGod]

No one said you can't disagree and post about it but you're the one throwing down gauntlets to Spurs fans about acceptance. I'm just curious as to what you're defention of non acceptance. Is ing about it on here enough to qualify me as not being on Holt's ?

Feel free to day and night Marcus, your ing of the front office has a ton of credibility behind it as shown by your track record.