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He is definately a hall of famer, 3 ring and a final MVp, 2 allstar appearances, and even if he plays till 30 without a championship he is in.
PARKER IS A FRENCH PLAYER!!! THE BEST FRENCH PLAYER OF ALL TIME. a foreigner has more chance that an american player ! !! i think he has very good chance for the hof because he's a foreigner basket ball player
He is definately a hall of famer, 3 ring and a final MVp, 2 allstar appearances, and even if he plays till 30 without a championship he is in.
Did any of these people have a Finals MVP, Dennis Johnson an average player with 14.1 career average got in cuz he had a Finals MVP, go look at Bill Waltons career, most of the time he was injured, all he did was win a reg season MVP and he got..
PETROVIC IS A HOF PLAYER BECAUSE HE'S A CROATIAN PLAYER parker will be a hof player because he's a french player .SAME THING FOR NOVITSKY AND NASH
Everyone points out how he stunk in the 2003 and 2005 finals, last time I checked, there are three rounds before the finals. Tony averaged around 18 a night in every series of the 2005 series before the finals, and had some very big games in the 2003 playoffs, I can remember some near 30 point games vs. the lakers, this at the age of 20 in his second year. So say claxton saved his butt in the fourth quarter vs. the nets, but it was Parker who had huge contributions vs. the lakers and mavs in the series before that in 2003, same in 2005. He had spotty performance in the 2003 and 2005 finals, but as mentioned he did play good in games 1 and 2 in 2003 and had some solid games in 2005. The 2003 and 2005 finals were pretty ugly as it was, duncan had great numbers in 2003 and 2005 and ginobili in 2005, but no one else in had stellar games, even kidd or any of the Pistons. Those finals were dogfights, the eastern teams knew the spurs were better, and knew their only chance was to make it ugly and totally slow the game down. Parker also had over 20 a night in both 2006 playoff series and in 2004 vs. Memphis, so to grade this guy only on two finals appearances (and by the way, the spurs won) is unfair.
Dennis Johnson isn't in the HOF. See my previous post...
Tony still is young enough to convince all he belongs in the HOF (although he may get in simply because he is the first European Finals MVP and the biggest basketball player to come out of France, seeing as how internationally and collegiately biased the BHOF is).
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This shows how much u know..
TP will never be HOF material. I love the guy, but he really isn't a great basketball player, go back and watch his highlights, he's rediculously awesome at making layups (and traveling) but thats his only real skill so far in his career.
he doesn't have a reliable jumper, for all his quickness he can hardly create on his own, he needs screens; he doesn't have great court vision or awareness, and very few moves in his repertoire, doesn't draw double teams, can't create shots for teammates.
he is able to thrive because of TD, manu, bowen, and POP.
#1 the opposing interior D has to wait till the last second to help because of TD
#2 TD executes those screens perfectly, giving parker the room he needs to use his speed
#3 TP never HAS to score, when things aren't going well, its TD that has to back someone down and get a tough bucket, or manu that gets called on to swing momentum. TP just scores when it opens up for him.
#4 Pop's freaking awesome D and Bruce Bowen, First of all, if the opposing PG is too good, bowen guards him, TP doesn't have to exert him to much on the defensive end, also if the defense wasn't so good, and the spurs HAD to score more often, TP would either differ to Manu and TD, or get exposed, he can't carry this team offensively at all.
he's basically like the best role player in the league.
TP's role: dribble the ball up the court, if a lane opens off the screen, take to the hoop, if not, pass to Duncan or Manu, if they create an open jumper for you, take it.
Last edited by vander; 07-18-2007 at 03:19 PM.
Totally agree, being the MVP of a 4-0 series won't convert him in a legend, in these very same playoff, he was behind Tim and Manu in importance in harder series, not in the Joke against the east champion.
A still too one-dimensional player can't be called a legend, a markup of a legend is high BB IQ at least (or genius level BB IQ, like Tim). Tony's BB IQ is average at very best...
Not yet for sure if he keeps it up for another 9 or 10 years then he probably gets in. Maybe not First Ballot but he would make it.
artis gilmore, the most deserving unenshrined* professional basketball player ever, was gervin's teammate in addition to mike mitc . the problem was the lakers never had an off-series against the spurs.
*qualifies by time, has the numbers, but was overlooked for some reason or another. http://www.basketball-reference.com/...gilmoar01.html
He's got 2 championships , he's a 2 all star and the mvp of the finals . SO yes he sould be in the hall of fame and besides he could become the first french in the hall of fame
He's got 3 championship's
Artis didn't arrive until the 82-83 season and by that time, the Spurs were out west.
Let's wait and see how he does after Duncan retires before we call him a lock for the hall of fame.
got it. i thought you meant never got closer than the level of conf finals, but you meant never higher in the eastern conf than the finals.
wtf ,ginobili already hall of famer ?? LOL if he is hall of famer tony is hall of famer....
stupid thread
If that is your top 5 pg list thats a ty list then. Billups ahead of Nash? Terry ahead of Parker??
Relating to the topic my answer is no. Now is it possible the situation can change 5-7 years from now? Sure but we will see how that goes.
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It's not a top 5. It's just a list of 5 guards who I feel could've gotten a ring if they played for the Spurs in the Duncan era.
There isn't an order intended, it's just the 5 guys off the top of my head. And yes Parker is a good PG, belongs in that class, and is a great system fit for this team. His talents are not to be overlooked. They just aren't as pivotal as TD's. The same case could be made for the 80's Celtics teams led by Larry Legend which included McHale, DJ, & Parish or the Showtime Lakers led by Magic but included Abdul-Jabbar, Worthy, & Cooper.
Oh and one has to remember that Manu is older than TP and has attained more in his basketball career. They both have impressive resumes to be sure, it's just that Manu has accomplished everything that TP has except for Finals MVP. You can include Euroleague and Italian Legaue Legend, 02 World Championship Finalist, 03, 05, 07 NBA Champion, and 04 Gold Medalist.
That varied a resume will get Manu in. TP is on the cusp.
YAWN.
You earn your name in the regular season.
You earn your fame in the playoffs.
TP is a hall of famer.
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