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Great trade for the Sonics. Props to Presti.I wonder who the Suns sign now as a big man? Maybe Brown? It is also good for the Spurs that the Suns are losing a good defender.
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Great trade for the Sonics. Props to Presti.I wonder who the Suns sign now as a big man? Maybe Brown? It is also good for the Spurs that the Suns are losing a good defender.
Sonics win.
Spurs win.
Suns lose.
I like it.
Neither do first round draft picks.
It doesn't solve anything, either. Unless Marion opts out at years end, the Suns will be right back in this position next offseason thanks to salary inflation and the 2008 Atlanta pick.
So they get worse now, may not even solve their issues, and trade another few picks.
Not much brightside to this move at all. Well, other than for Sarver's bank balance.
I'm talking strictly in the sense that we don't double-team Duncan all the time with Dampier in the game. Sometimes Avery sends the double, sometimes he doesn't. I ain't saying he's worth $70 million over 7 years, but he's a big upgrade over the Mormon or the Raefist.
He gets a lot of those points by going to the free-throw line. I think it's a good strategy to force the best power forward of alltime to have to earn his points at the line where he only hits at 65%. That's better than Parker and Manu getting open, clean looks all game long.
This was very much an expected trade. If you are a Suns fan, this is not as bad as it could have been. The trade saves about $16M this season. That's a lot of damn money. As far as the picks, the Suns always trade away their picks anyways. Plus they still retained their best pick (the Hawks pick next season).
And actually, this was almost the exact trade I wanted the Spurs to do to dump Barry. To dump a salary as big as Barry or Thomas, you have to give up a lot. No one is going to absorb a contract that big without asking for a whole lot.
This trade for the Suns is a lot better than having to salary dump someone like Marion. And at least they salary dumped a big contract ... instead of salary dumping a tiny contract like the Spurs did.
That said, this is great news for the Spurs. The Suns have basically traded Kurt Thomas and James Jones for Grant Hill. Thomas and Jones were the Suns two best defenders last year. Now I really don't see how the Suns guard the Spurs in the playoffs.
I'm not sure if the Suns are going to be adding any pieces but hopefully they aren't able to land a Thomas replacement in someone like PJ Brown. As it stands, it looks like the Suns will be forced to put Amare on Duncan and Nash on Parker.
Or hope that somehow Dallas can repeat what it did in 06 and take care of the Spurs for them. That's an iffy proposition if you ask me.
I'm not sure if the Suns are going to be adding any pieces but hopefully they aren't able to land a Thomas replacement in someone like PJ Brown. As it stands, it looks like the Suns will be forced to put Amare on Duncan and Nash on Parker.
sun fan would you do this move for marion instead of thomas?
You mean in the frontcourt? Or are you saying Bell is overrated?
Cap space is expensive this year. First it cost the Spurs Scola to dump a lousy $3M/ 2 yrs contract and now Phoenix has to give up two first rounders for an expiring $8M contract that Presti is just going to trade again at the deadline anyway.
Wow. What a great move by Presti. It's not like Thomas had 3 years to go on that contract. That thing is expiring this freaking year. Does Steve Kerr not realize what an asset that is? If you want to dump salary, you would think that you could find a better alternative than dumping an expiring deal.
Good point about the expiring year. That means Presti could turn it into another pick or two later this year.
Bell is an overrated defender. Thomas graded out as the team's best defender in both the regular season and the playoffs. Bell is a rugged defender who will do the dirty work . . . but he's far from a Bowen level shutdown defender.
Jones was the better defender in the regular season. Jones was the best defender on the team in the 2006 playoffs. You can make a case that Bell is the better defender due to the fact he plays more minutes, but it's a lot closer than Suns fans will admit now that Jones is in Portland.
Regarding the $8 million TE...is this simply to get under or near the cap, or does it improve their chances of getting KG?
Forget KG. Wouldn't they go after PJ Brown now? Or would that still put them over the cap? Well, even so, not by much I don't think.
Terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible, horrible, godawful, horrendous, terrible, terrible, ing ghastly, terrible trade.
Kurt Thomas and two draft picks for a second rounder and some money. What the .
Well, somebody please correct me if I'm wrong, but you can't combine a TE with current players to match the salary of an incoming player, correct? They'd in effect have to make two trades with Minnesota, one for KG, and another to take a bad contract off Minny's hands, like Jaric or Hudson.
Maybe Kurt Thomas will be in a Mavs uni come February, Seattle sure as doesn't need him.
It saddens me how badly the Suns coaching and management underrated Kurt Thomas. He was worth every bit of that $8 million.
where did Orlando get it then? or was it created in that trade?
I dont know if PJ would consider PHX given their style of play and his older legs. I think he would be a good fit as backup in Dallas to Dirk. Maybe we can finally get a backup PF that can play a little D on Duncan and not have to keep watching guys like Van Horn or Croshere on him
What a terrible move for the suns. They are certainly going backwards now.
PJ Brown is most definitely not the answer to our problems, either. Looking at a list of other possible acquisitions, none of them are as good as Kurt Thomas.
Pwned. Sig-worthy.
Kurt Thomas may be a vet but he can still play pretty solid defense as well as hit the shot you want out of him. Plus he can hit his free throws. I really impressed me during the Suns -Spurs series.
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