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Chris Webber, anyone?
Didn't see this posted. Shed some light on the situation for me. Take it for what it's worth.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/s...xplainsNBAbets
Editor's note: Brandon Lang, whose life story was immortalized by Matthew McConaughey in the 2005 film, "Two for the Money," considers himself the best big-game handicapper in the country. The man who gives wagering advice on his Web site, www.BrandonLang.com, is the self-proclaimed "most honest man in the business."
He never has lost a Super Bowl in his career, going 15-0-2. With NBA referee Tim Donaghy under investigation for allegedly betting on NBA games the past two seasons -- including games he officiated -- ESPN.com senior writer Wayne Drehs asked Lang to explain how sports gambling works in America and how Donaghy and his bookies might have been able to take advantage.]
ESPN.com: Brandon, explain what types of bets can be made on the NBA.
Brandon Lang: You can bet on who's going to win, by how many points. You can bet whether it's going to be a high-scoring or low-scoring game with the over/under. You can bet the first, second, third or fourth quarter. You can bet the first-half and second-half winner or loser. What you have to understand is that gambling is always designed to keep people watching.
If it's a televised game or the playoffs, you can bet the over/under on total points for a player, say whether or not LeBron James is going to score 30. You can bet over/under on rebounds for a guy like Tim Duncan. There are a lot of individual prop bets, but normally those are only in the playoffs or for major regular-season televised games.
ESPN.com: What are the various ways that a bettor can place his bets?
BL: If you're in the state of Nevada, you can do it 100 percent legal at any sports book. If not, you can do it [albeit illegally] with your corner-store bookie at just about any bar in any sports city in America. Or you can do it offshore with offshore sports books. That's pretty much it.
ESPN.com: How does placing a legal bet in Las Vegas differ from placing a bet offshore or with the bar bookie you refer to?
BL: Most of the time, when you bet with a bookie, you can bet on credit. When you bet offshore, you have to post up that money. I have to wire that offshore sports book $1,000 so I have $1,000 in my account to play with. As soon as I double my money, I can ask them to send $1,000 back or all $2,000, whatever. With your bookie, you typically settle up once a week. And that's when people get in trouble. It's credit -- usually somebody vouches for you, they'll give you a $5,000 line or something like that. Then you start getting behind, you start chasing and the next thing you know you just lost $7,000 and you don't have it. In Vegas and offshore, you have to post your money before you gamble with it.
ESPN.com: On a December night in the regular season, how much money would you guess is bet on the NBA -- legally and illegally -- in our country?
BL: In our country, so that's just Vegas and the bookmakers … you figure on any given night, you have an average of eight games. So in my calculations, on a random given night, I'd say about $50 million. That's legally and illegally. A random December night in the United States of America. But that number has been declining.
ESPN.com: Describe for me the average individual who bets on an NBA game?
BL: They're college students, middle-aged businessmen -- they're the people who crave action every single night. There was a time, in the winter, when the NBA and NHL were the only real betting options between football games each week. We never used to have a MAC game on Tuesday night followed by a Conference USA game on Wednesday, an SEC game on Thursday and an ACC contest on Friday. You needed the NBA to connect Monday Night Football to the following Saturday's games. And why bet two or three NBA games where guys don't always seem to show up every night when you have a college football game on Tuesday where you know the players are going to give maximum energy and effort?
ESPN.com: What role does a bookie play in placing bets?
BL: He's basically the sports book. He has his own line, his own money. He runs his own book. Different bookies will have different lines. To get into the various intricacies, most players want to have multiple bookies because lines can vary. If I have a guy in New York who has the Knicks as a 6.5 point favorite against the Nuggets and I have another guy in Florida who has the Knicks at 5.5, I'm going to take my bookie in New York and take Denver and then take New York with the bookie in Florida and lay the 5.5 points. If the final margin is six points, then I'll win both.
ESPN.com: So explain then, how a referee could control the outcome of a game so that he or associates of his could win a bet?
BL: Totally with the fouls he calls. If he has fixed the total and has a number he's thinking of, he can get the team in the bonus earlier in the quarter. Let's say he wants a final score where both teams tally more than 205 points and he needs 59 points in the fourth quarter to make that happen. If he puts both teams in the penalty with 8:00 to go and every foul is a free throw, it's not too hard to have a 60-point quarter.
ESPN.com: So what do you think, given your experience, might have happened with Tim Donaghy?
BL: You see a lot of calls in the NBA, "Hey -- he didn't even touch him." But he's [under su ion] because they will go back and watch every game he officiated, know the spread, know the totals, they'll watch the fourth quarter and they'll know exactly what games he [allegedly] fixed. One hundred percent, no questions asked, they'll know exactly.
They just have to look at the fourth quarter. That's where you'd be able to tell. I'm telling you -- it would have to be the total, not the winners or losers. You can't dictate a side, especially in the NBA. He couldn't take that chance. If someone gets injured or doesn't show up or is having a terrible night or whatever, you can't do it. But manipulating the total you can control from the very tip. If you need an over, a referee can dictate a high- or low-scoring game just by how he's calling it. It's going to come out.
ESPN.com: Given your expertise in watching and wagering on games, what influence does a referee or official have in the gambling outcome?
BL: If he has action on the game and wants something in particular to happen, I'd say 75 percent. I've been asked for years if games could be fixed. And I always told people not by players. Because the guys in the key positions who could get something done, your quarterbacks and running backs, are making millions and aren't going to risk it all to help some friend make $100,000. An official, though, could do it. In the NFL, there's a task force that on Monday reviews every critical call that came anywhere near the point spread. I don't believe that's ever been done in the NBA.
ESPN.com: What sort of precedent is there for scandals like this in the betting world? And does this surprise you?
BL: The mob has had its hands in fixing and shaving games going back to the late '40s. They've always been under question for getting teams to shave points. The fact that they finally got to an official -- well, at least an official who got caught -- isn't surprising. Listen, this is just the first guy to get caught. I think, without question, there are more officials out there who have shaved points. I guarantee you there are. This is just the first guy to get caught.
And it's going to be fascinating to see how this all plays out because [if the allegations are true, it's my opinion that] he's going to cut a deal and rat on everybody. And it was a mob bookie that supposedly turned him in. That was the worst thing they ever could have done. They turned him in, now he's going to give them all the evidence, spill everything and then go in the witness protection program. I don't get it. He was their meal ticket. Whatever risk they had with him, turning him in was a bad move. Now he's going to be dropping dimes on them.
ESPN.com: What sort of an effect do you think this scandal will have on NBA wagering and sports wagering as a whole?
BL: I think it will have a solid impact on people betting the NBA. Because really, college and pro football -- that's what people live for. Wagering on the NBA has already been dropping because of the intensity of play. On some nights, these guys just don't seem to care. And you don't want your money on that. This will only have even a greater impact and keep people away from betting the NBA.
Chris Webber, anyone?
i wouldn't be surprised if someone doesn't end up wearing cement shoes when all of this comes to light.
Beno !
There's no other explanation.
Maybe Joey Crawford will be named. After all, he was one of a group of unscrupulous refs that got caught profiting from the sale of NBA-issued first class airline tickets. It seems he got busted when the IRS came after him for the unreported revenue.
Stoudemire, maybe? Maybe he needed the money to bail his brother out of jail.
I'd buy him a beer
What do you think will happen to the players/coaches who were involved?
Every single one of them should be banned for life.
Quoted for truth.
I agree. I am really curios what will happen. We had the exact same case here in Germany with soccer. The ref is now in jail. The players suspended forever. Something like that just sucks. I hope no Spurs player is involved.
vince carter? ricky davis?
I'm going to LMAO all day if Nowitzki is named as an accomplice so I can troll every single Mav Fan I see here at The City of Dallas at San Marcos. Especially that annoying er who works at Wells Fargo.
Hilarious. Take a joke ya old .Retired dentist John Minutella of West Chester, Pa., where Donaghy grew up and worked at a golf course, recounted a horrific prank Donaghy pulled on him 10 years ago, when the embattled ref put a dead bird in his golf bag. Minutella found the maggot-infested carcass 24 hours later.
"Nobody wanted to play golf with him," said Minutella, 64. " I can't say one nice thing about him. I believe this guy was almost soulless."
Amen. There is no place for that in professional sports, period.
Pete Rose got banned from baseball for gambling even though (as far as anyone knows) he never bet against the Reds, and there were no allegations that he ever shave points or fixed games. Actually putting the fix in is 10x worse than that.
I hope these guys go to prison -- and not the country club kind.
david stern has got to be close to sizing up the shower rod.
Everyone should be banned.
I would not be shocked to read Jordan's name.
shut down the whole thing forever so dallas and phoenix never get to win a ring ever...lolz
"not the country club kind."
any crime figure with a record will go to the usual prison.
refs and players with no records will go to low-security prisons for white-collar criminals. However, a player with a record of dope possession, DWI, no driver's license, no car insurance, gun usage/permit violations, etc should expect a tougher prison.
According to dubya and his DoJ, federal sentencing guidelines are extremely strict and aggressive (except when a Repug lies repeatedly to a federal grand jury).
Without a doubt. I really hope he spills the beans
He may be receiving calls from crime types threatening him and his family if he spills his guts.
Sports Illustrated chimes in.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200....ap/index.html
Authorities concerned for ref's safety
BRADENTON, Fla. (AP) -- NBA referee Tim Donaghy, who's being investigated by the FBI for betting on games he worked, had local lawmen at his Florida home because of two threatening phone calls he received, authorities said Monday.
Three squad cars from the Manatee County Sheriff's Office arrived at Donaghy's home after he received the calls threatening his life Sunday, a sheriff's office report said. They seemed to come from the same unidentified caller.
"There is reason for us to keep an eye on his place and follow up," sheriff's spokesman Randy Warren said.
Authorities are examining whether the referee made calls to affect the point spread in games on which he or associates had wagered thousands of dollars over the past two seasons. Authorities say the referee had a gambling problem and was approached by low-level mob associates through an acquaintance.
The New York Daily News reported Sunday, citing unidentified law enforcement sources, that Donaghy will cooperate with authorities and possibly name other officials and players involved in the betting scandal.
On Monday, the newspaper reported that former neighbors of Donaghy's in Pennsylvania say they were approached more than a year ago by a private investigator they believed was hired by the NBA to check into Donaghy's gambling habits.
Kit Antsey, a real estate agent in West Chester, Pa., who helped Donaghy buy a home, told The Daily News a private investigator contacted him 18 months ago and asked him whether Donaghy bet on sports and at an Atlantic City casino.
However, The New York Times reported Monday, citing two unidentified people briefed on the investigation, that the NBA didn't know about Donaghy's betting or whether he affected the outcome of games until after the season.
The Times and The Daily News also reported NBA commissioner David Stern plans to speak publicly about Donaghy this week, maybe as soon as Monday.
Donaghy did not have a listed phone number at his Florida home.
this could be the destruction of the NBA as we know it.
That's exactly what it is.
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