return of parker at san antonio

[sabar]

Tony's dream is win a medal in olympic games with his friends of yhe NT (his best recall is the win with junior national team and he keep the trophee in his house)
Maybe a very bad decision for the futur after 2011
Tony said he never forgot and the spurs make like they want to kill Tony's dreams

No one told Tony to sign with an NBA team. If he really cared that much about pride then he would have stayed in France. And how exactly is pride better than greed (referring to your USA potshot)? Plus if the French aren't greedy either, why does Tony need $60 million, he should have signed for $0.01.

[Bruno]

Spurs are stupid for investing millions of dollars in Tony Parker and then worrying about France keeping him from being hurt?

RIF.
I've never say that.

I don't get why that is hard for you to understand.

Since you don't get it, I will try to explain it again with an example.

Someone spend a lot of money by buying a Ferrari.
Few times later, he said : "this car sucks, there is no space and it can't go on clay road. It sucks, I have spend a lot of money on it."
What will you say to him ? Something like that : "Are you an idiot ? You bought a Ferrari ! If you wanted a car able to go on clay road and with a lot of Space you should have bought a SUV, not a Ferrari."

Now the Spurs analogy :
Spurs have spend a lot of money on a French player like Parker.
Few times later, Spurs said : "this player wants to play every summer for his NT. It sucks, I have spend a lot of money on him."
Wat did I say to them ? Something like that : "Are you idiots ? You bought an international player ! If you wanted a player who doesn't play the summer, you should have gone after an American player, not an international one."

[temujin]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady M






I am referring to LadyM's comments.

Mr. Parker signed to have those type of restrictions placed on him as far as health etc. It is a very big investment the Spurs or any organization places on its players and its a fair tradeoff to make and is fully understood to when contracts are signed. They cannot stop them from playing for their countries nor should they but if a player takes the risk and gets injured then technically its a breach of contract.

Yes.
On the other hand, I am sure the 25 years old Mr. parker is NOT worried of a breach in his contract, after the ennieme NBA le, with an MVP seasoning on top.
I would dare imagining that at least 1/2 teams might be interested in Mr. parker' skills.
The point I was trying to make was probably too subtle.
I will say it frankly.
Parker is important to the french NT. I am sure that after this, they will be tempted to play him to death, if necessary, untill they get to the Olimpics.
It's money for them.
And if this means banging him up a bit -even QUITE a bit- well, it's none of their business.
No breach of any contract there.
All perfectly legal.

Just too bad, in case.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

My country's team (France) really sucks bad without Tony, it sucks that the big bad Spurs are making him come here for treatment. They should stand by and let him destroy his ankle all for the love of our country, the Spurs should eat the $70 million and let him focus on French basketball so maybe we can actually win something for once.

[picnroll]

So when is Parker going to agree that if he gets hurt playing for his national team the Spurs don't have to pay him?

[HJNTX]

Hmmm maybe the SPURS front office need to look closer to home for players ..

[ploto]

If they do not want to allow them to play for their national teams, then put it in their contracts. It is just interesting to see the 180 taken by the Spurs in the past couple of years.

[angel_luv]

Did I miss another thread about how he got injured? Or is this the first mention of it?

I saw this one when I was browsing through past pages.
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=74799

[judaspriestess]

Yes.
On the other hand, I am sure the 25 years old Mr. parker is NOT worried of a breach in his contract, after the ennieme NBA le, with an MVP seasoning on top.
I would dare imagining that at least 1/2 teams might be interested in Mr. parker' skills.
The point I was trying to make was probably too subtle.
I will say it frankly.
Parker is important to the french NT. I am sure that after this, they will be tempted to play him to death, if necessary, untill they get to the Olimpics.
It's money for them.
And if this means banging him up a bit -even QUITE a bit- well, it's none of their business.
No breach of any contract there.
All perfectly legal.

Just too bad, in case.

I thought this was not about money for the French, I thought it was about national pride??

[itzsoweezee]

hey frenchies, no american gives a if the france national team sucks without tony. in other words, quit your crying.

[itzsoweezee]

If they do not want to allow them to play for their national teams, then put it in their contracts. It is just interesting to see the 180 taken by the Spurs in the past couple of years.

david stern won't allow it. i'm sure pretty much every american team would do it if that weren't the case.

[spursfan09]

For all we know maybe Parker is that hurt and doesn't want to play anymore, but wants the Spurs to say he can't.

[ehz33satx]

RIF.




Since you don't get it, I will try to explain it again with an example.

You bought an international player ! If you wanted a player who doesn't play the summer, you should have gone after an American player, not an international one."

[ehz33satx]

It's a dream of many international players to come play in the NBA. They come for the money AND the chance to play with the best basketball players in the world. Tony Parker chose to come play in the NBA and he says he is extremely proud to be playing for the San Antonio Spurs. If it was not for the Spurs having the best trainers and training to take Parker to such heights as winning NBA championships and a well deserved MVP trophy, you would not have the player he is today to lead your French team. Think of it that way Bruno.

[ehz33satx]

You provided the Ferrari, the Spurs just gave it better tires and super tuned it. If not for the Spurs investing heavily, he would be the same player he was years ago.

[JP le Requin]

You provided the Ferrari, the Spurs just gave it better tires and super tuned it. If not for the Spurs investing heavily, he would be the same player he was years ago.

i am agree with you and i am french!

TP has to be sure he is ok with his health...business is business in nba, i follow nba since 1993 and its always the same way, dont change it.
imagine spurs reveals Tp has more we thought???
i will be happy to get tp @ home than to play hurt...

aux français, arreter de dire qu'on aime pas les spurs, ca fait 14 ans que je les kiffe!!! et on est nombreux , les autres sont jaloux de leur succes

si tp est bléssé et bien que le staff des spurs les chek...a ma connaissance il est quand meme le meilleur staf medicale de la nba et ont TOUT le matos nécéssaire pour detecter toute anomalie et soigner...

[Bruno]

It's a dream of many international players to come play in the NBA. They come for the money AND the chance to play with the best basketball players in the world. Tony Parker chose to come play in the NBA and he says he is extremely proud to be playing for the San Antonio Spurs.

I don't see the link between what you said and what I said.
I just said that Spurs have chosen to go after international players and when a nba team does this choice, it had to accept that its players will play for their NT this summer.

If it was not for the Spurs having the best trainers and training to take Parker to such heights as winning NBA championships and a well deserved MVP trophy, you would not have the player he is today to lead your French team. Think of it that way Bruno.

Sure, if Parker is better now than 6 years ago, it's because great Spurs staff. It has nothing to do with Parker work ethic and a basketball player being better at 25 than at 19.
Spurs have done a great job with Parker but saying what you said is just wrong. Maybe you don't know that but French BB federation spend money on young players to have a good NT. They have a high school called INSEP where they work with best young French prospects. Parker has spend two years at the INSEP and always give them credits for what he is today. Is it fair to spend money on players to have a good NT and not to have them when they pan out ?

If it was not for the French BB federation spending money on Parker and working with him with a high level staff when he was 16/17 years old, you would not have the player he is today to lead our Spurs. Think of it that way ehz33satx.

[stéphane]

The funny thing in this thread is that for once manu's church and oberto's at a lesser extent can understand the problem. Only americans are arguing because they still don't get the NT thing like internationnal posters do. I stopped arguing about NTs about a year ago after TP broken finger.

[JPB]

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Maybe you don't know that but French BB federation spend money on young players to have a good NT. They have a high school called INSEP where they work with best young French prospects. Parker has spend two years at the INSEP and always give them credits for what he is today. Is it fair to spend money on players to have a good NT and not to have them when they pan out ?

If it was not for the French BB federation spending money on Parker and working with him with a high level staff when he was 16/17 years old, you would not have the player he is today to lead our Spurs. Think of it that way ehz33satx.

You beat me to it, Bruno.
I was looking for someone to mention this in this thread. TP is a french federation product. He had his natural abilities and did his part but he did in the INSEP/international compe ions environnment. That's what allowed him to catch scout's eyes.

Besides now that he has 3 NBA rings, one of his remaining goal is the olympics. Olympics are something that makes every athlet dream.

Don't forget that , if TP has very well acclimated to the NBA and the USA (thanks Eva), your native country, the one you grow up in, will always be special. Playing with his buddies, some of them the best he has) is something that allows him to change his air, find his roots back, speak french...His childhood friends, a part of his family is in France.

TP has always said he wanted to make history and FIBA comp., olympics are opportunities of doing so while he's still young. I don't think he'll play for France after 30, or even before. He doesn't want to have regrets at the end of his career. A basketball player career is pretty short.

You also have to know that NBA is not seen by so many people in france. It's on cable TV and if the majority of french people have heard about Tony Parker, few have seen him play.

PS : please some french posters, calm a bit down and don't turn this into a USA-France battle.

[timvp]

From skimming this thread, it looks like Bruno is destroying peeps. A mad Bruno is the wrong poster to mess with.

[picnroll]

[QUOTE=Bruno]I find that Spurs are stupid by acting like that.

Either you don't trust French NT medical staff and you don't let Parker play with the NT or you trust them and you don't call him back when Parker has a minor injury.

If Parker is tired or injured during the regular season or the playoffs, Spurs will be the ones to blame not French NT. Parker has a very busy summer and he will have two more Europe/USA travels just because Spurs medical staff don't trust French NT medical staff. Very clever...[/QUOTE=Bruno]

When Spurs signed Parker to his rookie contract, have they said that they won't allow him to play for his NT ? NO
When Spurs signed Parker to his $66M contract, have they said that they won't allow him to play for his NT ? NO

Spurs have invested a lot on money on Parker but they knew that he was French and the he will likely play for his NT. If Spurs want players who don't play during summers, they must sign American players and not international ones.

If Spurs don't want that international players plays for their NT, they should clearly tell them before signing a contract with them.

Spurs have a ty at ude towards international players and their NT. Not letting Manu and Oberto playing with the Argentinean NT and acting with Parker like they do is just disgusting.

From skimming this thread, it looks like Bruno is destroying peeps. A mad Bruno is the wrong poster to mess with.

Destroying? Those are the weakest posts I've seen by a very good poster. Of course the Spurs are going to have Parker back here to assess his ankle injury, They don't know the French doctors from Kevorkian. They want to use their team of doctors they know and trust and their facitlities. There's even a chance if the Spurs paid an insurance poicy n his summer play, their doctors didn't look at him and some serious omplications occured the policy could be voided.

An across the Atlantic flight wiping out Parker and threatening his season. . I know a 50 year old CEO of a large international compnay who hops around the globe on a constatnt basis logging18 hour work days who's prety spry on a daily basis. I'm pretty sure the 25 year old Parker can handle a premium business class flight sleeping all the way. Eva probably gives him a harder workout.

Spurs having a " ty" at ude toward their international players? They publicly stated it was fine that Parker play this summer but when he turns 30 like Manu they will ask him to limit his play. Manu came out not wanting to play this year first. In all likelihood Spurs are just giving him a graceful way of declining. They even said they expected and endorsed Manu playing in the Olympics.

When it comes to international play and France Bruno loses his objectivity big time and posts some weak

[picnroll]

Two questioins for Bruno;

1. When Parker broke his finger last summer wasn't it first not recognized. Even after it was recognized didn't Parker initially try to play? Wasn't it Parker who decided it was too painful to try, not the French doctors telling him he shouldn't. Wasn't it detrmined that if Parker had tried to play he risked further damage and the finger not healing straight?

2. Why is the French basketball federation not paying Diaw's insurance. Why isn't Diaw paying his insurance? On top of his salary are the Suns expected to pay the insurance to let him play for another team?

[jéjé]

that's really suck !!

I hope that tp come back to the tournament of strasbourg !!!

[jéjé]

picnroll :

tp wants to play the last year , the french doctors would put a splint on his finger . It was tony who wants to play at this time the coaching staff says nothing .

2° The french basketball federation doesn't pay the insurance because they aren't rich . The basket ballisn't the first sport in french ( soccer , bike, and the swimming especially with manaudou) . They search the best for pay the insurrance but maybe diaw would pay like nowitsky for the Deutschland

[ArgSpursFan]

I find that Spurs are stupid by acting like that.

Either you don't trust French NT medical staff and you don't let Parker play with the NT or you trust them and you don't call him back when Parker has a minor injury.

If Parker is tired or injured during the regular season or the playoffs, Spurs will be the ones to blame not French NT. Parker has a very busy summer and he will have two more Europe/USA travels just because Spurs medical staff don't trust French NT medical staff. Very clever...

Actually you could be the stupid one is you don´t spend just a flying ticket from France to S.A to make sure your U$60 M star Point Guard,Finals MVP don´t need special treatment for that enjury,or to find out if there´s something else wrong in there.
Plus,you know Nat teams will try to keep their best players even if they ´re are seriusly injuried.
Bottom line:do spurs trust France NT docs?NO!!,and they shouldn´t.Same with the Arg NT doctors or Slovenian NT Docs.etc.etc.