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I think that all this talk of the Mavs not having a second star player is bull.
Howard ranked 23rd in the NBA in scoring (Dirk was 10th). Only Washingtion (Jamison and Arenas) and Denver (Anthony and AI) have a higher scoring duo. (Neither of the Heats star players playing in more then 50 games last year though they were on pace to be finish ahead of Dirk and Howard.)
He was fifth in the league amoung SF's in scoring betting star players like Artest, Miller, Iguodala and Maggette.
Howard was third in the league amoung SF's in rebounding beating stars like Lebron, Artest (Again), Carter, Maggette (Again), Iguodala (Again), Miller (Again), and McGrady
He was 14th in the league in shooting % amoung SF's betting out the likes of Carter (Again), Maggette (Again), Iguodala (Again), Artest (Again), Pierce and McGrady (Again)
He was 10th in FT shooting in the league amoung SF's beating out (You guessed it) Carter, Maggette, Igudala, Miller, Artest and McGrady ... all of them ... Again.
16th among SF's in 3% shooting beating out (Here we go again) Redd, Artest, Carter, McGrady and James
10th in Steals, 3rd in Blocks, 22nd in TOP48 (beating out every player listed above)
Howard my not get the press ... Yet, but he is playing like a star player. Playing better then alot of "#1 Stars" on their teams.
average age is 25.9
I never said that the mavs did not have a couple of stars. They do in Howard and Dirk, but they have no superstars such as Wade and Shaq. Other than the Detroit pistons of 2004, which had 4 stars, every NBA champion for the last 30 years had at least one superstar, imo.
Hmm... leads his team to the Finals, consistently been among the tops in the MVP race over the past 5 years winning it this year, considered by many to be one of the most gifted players in NBA history, and hes not a superstar? you're nuts.
Are we talking about talent or jersey sales? Because it sounds like your talking about jersey sales. Why don't you look over what Shaq did in the finals and then tell me what about his performace you would call "superstar" like.I never said that the mavs did not have a couple of stars. They do in Howard and Dirk, but they have no superstars such as Wade and Shaq. Other than the Detroit pistons of 2004, which had 4 stars, every NBA champion for the last 30 years had at least one superstar, imo.
I'll give you the chance to correct me. I think Shaq averaged 12 ppg and 7 rpg. Not very "superstar" like numbers I know ... Go ahead and correct me if you want.
If your saying that Howard doesn't play at the level of Carter and T-Mac (Who most would say are superstars) then i just proved you wrong when I posted exactly what Howard did do last year.
If your going to say that Dirk is not a "Superstar", then your just blind and cant see anything past your own thoughtsOther than the Detroit pistons of 2004, which had 4 stars, every NBA champion for the last 30 years had at least one superstar, imo.
What Shaq did was win a NBA Championship, his 4th! Shaq’s averages may have been low in the finals that season but it would be foolish to say he was not a factor. , the mavs went to Hack a Shaq! A clear sign that they could not handle him. He’s a superstar, he makes a difference on both ends of the court! He has 4 Rings to prove it! He is still the best center in the game and can still be a factor in any le hopes.
About howard, I like howard. I think he is a very good player and an all star in this league. A superstar? No way. Neither is Carter.
No disrespect to Mavs fans and Dirk, but In my humble opinion, he is not a superstar. He does not play both ends of the court effectively. He is one dimensional. If he’s not scoring, he’s useless. He can not defend his shadow. I have a thing about seven footers shooting nothing but jumpers. That’s a weak game to me. Can you imagine a 6’6 or 6’7 Sf ever being able to guard one of superstars of yesterday and today? The superstars in this league are, Duncan, Bryant, Shaq, Wade, James, Garnett and McGrady is on the bubble, Imo. If I were trying to build a championship team, Dirk would be low on the list of PF’s I’d chose. I want a pf with Power! I’d take Howard, Duncan, Garnett, Boozer before I chose Dirk. I would even take Wallace, Stoudemire and Brand before Dirk. Dirk is too weak in the paint. Now that's my opinion, others may think differently which is cool. But I call it like i see it!
You need to go to school and learn how to think up good comebacks, son. For example, say something about the topic at hand.
hey big guy, quit looking at moe greene's ass.go suns
When you look at this one -
With this one -Other than the Detroit pistons of 2004, which had 4 stars, every NBA champion for the last 30 years had at least one superstar, imo.
You seem to indicate that only five or maybe six team can win a Championship (Spurs, Lakers, Heat, Cav's, Celtics and maybe Rockets). Now granted you didn't do too bad at picking the Spurs and cavs for the finals (That must have been hard) but then you brought up the Lakers and Rockets (they didn't do too good this past year) and the Celtics ... Or Minnisoda if you want to look at last year ... which didn't even make the post season.The superstars in this league are, Duncan, Bryant, Shaq, Wade, James, Garnett and McGrady is on the bubble, Imo
How do you judge who is a Super Star? By what you say a two time MVP (Nash) isn't one, but Lebron and KG who hasn't won anything at any level are. Is it winning? Is it stats? or, like I think, is it jersey sales?
What O'Neal did was choke, but he was saved by the only player on the Heat that did play like a "super star" in Wade
Either O'Neal decided to take the series off, or the Mavs shut him down ... your pick.
He shot the same number of foul shots as he had all season during the finals (8 per game) so the whole, but you played Hack a Shaq all game crap, is just that. When someone shoots under 30% from the line ... Thats what you do.
We held him to two-thirds of his scoring average against the rest of the league, didn't foul him more then anyone else did and what did the "Super Star" do? He trie to kill the poor fans sitting around the basket with his FT shots.
but he is a "Super Star" ... Obviously its not an ability to "step it up" because Shaq sure didn't.
Its not the ability to win it all as KG, Lebron and T-Mac haven't .. So what is it?
What defines a super star?
If a player can win MVP, then they are obviously a super-star...no questions asked
Good post.
It's okay son. I know you don't want to click the Start Menu and go to My Pictures and look for that pic through all your other gay porn, so you post as a sig so you see it wherever you go. And I never want to look at Moe Greene's ass for 2 reasons: 1) It's gay. 2) His ass is all yours. I know if he lived in your city you would stalk him and ram him in the back end when he's asleep. I'll give you some extra time to respond to this so you can go pound it to your sig.hey big guy, quit looking at moe greene's ass.
Like I said, I judge a superstar on their ability to do well consistently on both ends of the court. Dirk doesn't do that. He's often the biggest man on the court and shooting jumpers. He gets pushed around like a rag doll and he's soft and weak!
Re: Shaq, the mavs double and triple teamed him whenever he touched the ball. The mavs also went to the hack a shaq while ahead. Why is that? They were conceding that he would score and took their chances with him shooting freethrows instead. Which is the punk way out. He was instrumental on the defensive end while not putting up big numbers. He was a difference in that le run and you're fooling yourself if you think otherwise. Just like Dirk was the difference in the mavs failed le run and their first round exit to an 8th seed. If he didn't get pushed around by the little guys the mavs may have won a le.
The MVP is a joke and so is Dirk!
They went to hack a shaq because he was shooting a whopping 30% from the line. The point of defense is to keep your opponent's chance of scoring at the lowest possible. I'll take my chance with putting a guy who shoots 30% at the line over shooting a monster 60% from the field.
Now I'm not saying he was useless by any stretch of the imagination. And I'm not saying that Hack-a-Shaq is what teams are supposed to do, BUT the way he was shooting FT's through the playoffs, especially in that series, I can't blame anyone wanting to put him at the line.
And I don't recall many triple teams on Shaq at all.
BTW- Being the biggest guy shooting jumpers has gotten him farther than any other elite PF in the game today (aside from Duncan). It's gotten him as far as other HOF PFs as well, such as Karl Malone and Charles Barkley. Obviously the guy must be doing something right. If it isn't Dirk, then what is the biggest reason for the Mavericks success over the years? I would really like to know that.
It's okay son. I know you don't want to click the Start Menu and go to My Pictures and look for that pic through all your other gay porn, so you post as a sig so you see it wherever you go. And I never want to look at Moe Greene's ass for 2 reasons: 1) It's gay. 2) His ass is all yours. I know if he lived in your city you would stalk him and ram him in the back end when he's asleep. I'll give you some extra time to respond to this so you can go pound it to your sig.
your about as sharp as a bag of wet hair, and your comments are worth about as much. this is your obsession, you won't shut the about it little guy.dance muthaphucka dance. go suns
go suns
No that's not my obsession. I'm just saying you're a et because you have a picture of a half naked guy as your sig. And then you go saying other people are gay. Take a look in the mirror you pussy. And P.S., there's nothing gay about kermit. He'll kick your ass. Spurs in 6.your about as sharp as a bag of wet hair, and your comments are worth about as much. this is your obsession, you won't shut the about it little guy.
Children, Children...let's stick to the topic shall we? Mavs in 6 against both your teams
No that's not my obsession. I'm just saying you're a et because you have a picture of a half naked guy as your sig. And then you go saying other people are gay. Take a look in the mirror you pussy. And P.S., there's nothing gay about kermit. He'll kick your ass. Spurs in 6.
i took a look in the mirror and i saw the father the ran out on your mom all those years ago. keep dancing little guy, keep dancing
moe greene's ass = elliot fan's obsession
LMAO at you running out of jokes so you talk about my mom.
The Spurs beat the Suns 3 times at their full potential, one time without Horry. Spurs in 6.keep dancing little guy, keep dancing
Kermit>male asskermit was cool when i was 2. a green piece of felt with ping pong balls for eyes and jim henson's hand up it's ass is not something i go worrying about.
Nah, I'll be going to the straight prom since I'm straight. And besides, the other gay guys are wasting their time since they will never live up to the Gay Prom Queen expectations you set when you were at prom.
It's your sig and it's supposedly my obsession? Go getmoe greene's ass = elliot fan's obsession
with Moe Greene's ass. He'll probably want a divorce after he catches your computer filled gay porn.
i was laughing at you a long time before this little guy. suns in 7.
Apparently you ran out of comebacks. It's okay son.
Apparently you ran out of comebacks. It's okay son.
little man, it's not like you ever gave me anything to comeback on, with your silly got ass...suns in 7keep dancing...
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