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    License to Lillard tlongII's Avatar
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    Oh it's true. It's damn true!

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    It doesn't always make you bigger, and if he's cycling and using basically to recover from injury he may not get bigger but could get stronger. Either way, using it to recover quickly from injury ala Rodney Harrison is still cheating and is still gaining an unfair compe ive advantage. As for the story, it sure does contain a lot of details to be a complete fabrication. My guess is it's true, but we'll wait to see. If it is true, this brings him into complete su ion and completely ruins this "feel good" story from the "do the right things and persist to succeed" aspect. To me, it's still a relevant story of doing whatever it takes to succeed, which I can completely understand and have done myself.

    Thats steroids.

    Hes accused of using HGH. Human GROWTH hormones.

    No, he hasn't grown hardly at all since he was last up.

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    Thats steroids.

    Hes accused of using HGH. Human GROWTH hormones.

    No, he hasn't grown hardly at all since he was last up.
    HGH is used the same way for rapid recovery, it just has the added benefit of being untraceable for now.

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    adolis is altuve’s father monosylab1k's Avatar
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    Thats steroids.

    Hes accused of using HGH. Human GROWTH hormones.

    No, he hasn't grown hardly at all since he was last up.
    do you even know what the HGH is?

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    Yawn

    what Mav fan, are you gonna educate us on HGH now, just like you educated us on how dog fighting is OK.

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    Palmeiro was juicing and he wasn't huge, just because you're not musclebound doesn't mean you're not taking performance enhancers.

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    Good point. Palmeiro = flabby, durable, perfect swing, big time power hitter in youth, consistent production in MLB, plus he was the guy who took the hard line stance against congress (tell me that you didn't believe him at that time).

    Raffy was basically anti-everything that was viewed as a sign of using performance enhancing drugs.

    When he tested positive, everybody should realize that there are no obvious tells to being clean. You can hope and guess with your favorite players, but to use no obvious change in size as evidence of cleanliness, well that just doesn't work.

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    doesnt your head grow when you are on HGH? isn't that the big thing with bonds he had to get a bigger helmet size in his late 30's
    steroids doesnt which would explain why palmeiro's didnt.

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    doesnt your head grow when you are on HGH? isn't that the big thing with bonds he had to get a bigger helmet size in his late 30's
    steroids doesnt which would explain why palmeiro's didnt.
    Like most side effects of medications, your head (specifically the facial bone) CAN grow. Depending on how much you use plus the fact that different people can react differently to the same medication, you may see completely different side effects from person to person.

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    adolis is altuve’s father monosylab1k's Avatar
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    Yawn

    what Mav fan, are you gonna educate us on HGH now, just like you educated us on how dog fighting is OK.
    go cram another donut you ignorant . see things in your own small-minded assbackwards world, what the do i care? you might find a clue behind the pizza hut.

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    go cram another donut you ignorant . see things in your own small-minded assbackwards world, what the do i care? you might find a clue behind the pizza hut.

    Lovely.

    Any more genius lines you want to grace us with like "Dog fighting is normal and ok"

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    Lovely.

    Any more genius lines you want to grace us with like "Dog fighting is normal and ok"
    Sadly, in many places it is...........along with fighting, bull fighting, etc.

    HGH on the other hand...............

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