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    btw, 40K + people are into dogfighting.

    millions have no health insurance and die every day because they can't get the healthcare they need. troops are dying or being mangled by road side bombs that pussies leave there.

    and the lead story is Vick is a dogfighter.... Keep on watching that CNN!!!!

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    TALK TO YOU GUYS LATER. I"M ON MY WAY TO THE THURSDAY NIGHT DOGFIGHTS DOWN ON THE BAYOU.

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    Vick is an idiot for getting himself into this, but Kobe raped a young woman and he's still idolized. Who gives that much of a about pit bulls? Seriously.

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    pit bulls should be shot.
    should not.

    my boss has a pit and it's the nicest dog i know of. i've met plenty pits that are gentle loving dogs. i don't agree with your statement but whatever.

    it's not the breed that is evil it is the owners behind them.

    with all that said i still agree with marbury.

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    Yeah yeah, pit bulls are sweet innocent dogs.

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    Vick is an idiot for getting himself into this, but Kobe raped a young woman and he's still idolized. Who gives that much of a about pit bulls? Seriously.
    I'm sure if Kobe had plead guilty there would be a different view on that subject. And as for your earlier take
    white people hunt, I guess. Who are those negroes to think they can kill animals?
    Dog fighting is not a "black" sport. There are many whites who engage in it as well. I don't know if any of you got to see the HBO Real Sports that had a segment on this, but it is just sickening... and most of those shown were white.

    The analogy to UFC fighters is also a poor one. The fighters are not "trained" (through various abuses) to kill each other, and the losing fighter does not get taken out to a field and get shot, or electrocuted, or drowned.

    Vick was not unaware that this sport was illegal. The promoters of these events go to great length to keep them quiet so the police don't find out. He lied about his involvement to the owner of the Falcons and the commissioner of the league.

    As far as saying that he still has a right to make a living, you are absolutely correct. But playing in the NFL is not a right. Just like if I worked for AT&T and got charged with a felony and lied to my boss about it, he has the right to fire me if he chooses. I can go get a job doing something else, but I'm not guaranteed to get back the same job I had before. If Goodall decides to ban Vick, it will not just because he "killed a few dogs". There is the gambling, dog fighting, and lying about it right to the commish's face.

    As for the hunting comparisons...there might be something to that in the sense that both kill animals. That is it though. One is legal, one is not. Arguing that Alcohol and cigarettes are illegal is not a good defense for getting busted with pot, cocaine, etc. You know it is illegal and you take that risk if you do them. You don't get to cry about it if you get caught and blame someone else for your actions.

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    Black people aren't allowed to hunt?

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    Im waiting for Fillmoe or more of the educated posters to now tell us how this is a "racist" conviction and another example of George Bush and the white men of america holding down the black man.

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    It's dogs people! Why don't you mofos get in an uproar about healthcare for the elderly. Go protest this pathetic war and get the troops back home w/ their families. I have a dog. If you come to MY house and kill my dog, that burning sensation in your temple would be a round from one of my pistols. My neighbor has 9 FREAKING dogs in his backyard. I pray for the day I wake up to find them ALL hanging from the oak tree in his front yard! All of you calling guys insane, barbaric, stupid, etc., are a bunch of MEDIA S! Shut the up will you w/ the self-righteous bull . I've seen plenty of photos from GTGs on this forum w/ PLENTY of drunkeness. I know all you S.O.B.'s didn't catch a ing cab home! Therefore, you broke the law and should be arrested, have a DUI on your record, and get your license suspened for a year. "He broke the law, so he should pay for his crimes" SHUT THE UP w/ the bull . Call me what you want, but I run over at LEAST 3-4 dogs or cats per month. If they run
    out in front of me, I don't swerve at all... They are roadkill.
    This is why abortion should be legal. Kidding, but seriously, you have a sick mind. People don't get up in arms over healthcare or the elderly? Ever go to the political forums, you can read 100 threads on it in the past 2 years versus... 2-3 dog fighting threads.

    btw, 40K + people are into dogfighting.

    millions have no health insurance and die every day because they can't get the healthcare they need. troops are dying or being mangled by road side bombs that pussies leave there.

    and the lead story is Vick is a dogfighter.... Keep on watching that CNN!!!!
    BREAKING NEWS: The American healthcare system and troops dying have been in the news every day for the past 5 years. CNN is like 24/7 criticism of the war for the past 4 years, not Vick's case.

    You people are sick. It's you asses that go 70 MPH on the road behind my house that made me bury my cat and 20-30 other people's pets.

    T Park is so right that's its' scary.

    Kobe's case was about , not truth.

    So much over this. Hope Vick has fun in prison! Maybe he'll give his fans a good-bye middle finger or two, that classy guy.

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    No he has no point.

    Agreeing with Marbury, is about as stupid as someone defending dog fighting.


    Adios mouth breather.
    Great insight there. Im not saying that dog fighting is good but rather animal abuse is generally accepted across the board in our culture and because we have a sentimental attachment to dogs does not mean we should force everyone else too.

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    I posted on the other board and I wasn't going to get into it here, but some of the responses got me scratching my head:

    "So I guess clubbing and stabbing the crippled dogs is just an occupational hazard? Poor Stephon must not realize that the dogs used in these events often die of blood loss, shock, dehydration, exhaustion, or infection hours or even days after the fight. Other animals are often sacrificed as well. Some owners train their dogs for fights using smaller animals such as cats, rabbits or small dogs. These "bait" animals are often stolen pets or animals obtained through "free to good home" advertisements.

    Starbury's comments border on insanity. I think I preferred him when he was merely stupid."

    "One doesn't have to be an animal rights person, heck to me it's not even a PETA issue. One just has to know right from wrong. Dogfighting is a sadistic "contest" in which two dogs—specifically bred, conditioned, and trained to fight—are placed in a pit (generally a small arena enclosed by plywood walls) to fight each other for the spectators' entertainment and gambling. Fights average nearly an hour in length and often last more than two hours. Dogfights end when one of the dogs will not or cannot continue. Their innate breeding won't let them quit even if they've lost eyes, disemboweled....you get the picture.

    Whether the issue is dogfighting, fighting, bullfighting or one human being hurting another human being, wrong is wrong and the offender should be punished, celebrity or regular joe."


    I'm not a hunter now, but I was when I was younger. Heck I was born in south Texas so I grew up with hunting a big part of my life. I'm not defending hunters but you gotta admit a quick kill ordinarily doesn't put the animal through extended barbaric agony.

    I'm not an animal rights fanatic or a PETA card carrying member or one of those annoying Vegans. I love a good steak. Is it hypocrytical? I don't know. What I do know is that there is just something inherently revolting and repulsive about animal fighting. Before I read into this and became more informed about dogfighting, I may have been one of many who would have dismissed this as a witch hunt against a well known athlete. Not anymore.
    It's a gross, sadistic "sport" and I question the humanity of anyone who doesn't think that it is revolting. I really think that the blood thirst is a sickness.

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    This is why abortion should be legal. Kidding, but seriously, you have a sick mind. People don't get up in arms over healthcare or the elderly? Ever go to the political forums, you can read 100 threads on it in the past 2 years versus... 2-3 dog fighting threads.


    BREAKING NEWS: The American healthcare system and troops dying have been in the news every day for the past 5 years. CNN is like 24/7 criticism of the war for the past 4 years, not Vick's case.

    You people are sick. It's you asses that go 70 MPH on the road behind my house that made me bury my cat and 20-30 other people's pets.

    T Park is so right that's its' scary.

    Kobe's case was about , not truth.

    So much over this. Hope Vick has fun in prison! Maybe he'll give his fans a good-bye middle finger or two, that classy guy.
    My mind is not 'sick". I just don't agree w/ you. Some people get in an uproar over dogs, but can't treat their fellow man w/ decent respect. And the uproar is not limited to political forums. I've seen the t-shirts w/ Vick's name and jail bars in front of it. Underneath it says, "animal hater". That's overboard. While I think it was dumb to throw away 130 mil. like that, I do not agree w/ most peoples' assement that he's some type of skid mark, lower lifeform, demonic creature. Eddie Griffin got burned to a crisp... FRONT PAGE, Chris Benoit offs his wife, kids, and himself (now that's sick).... Front Page, Vick fights and abuses DOGS........ last page.

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    I'm sure if Kobe had plead guilty there would be a different view on that subject. And as for your earlier take Dog fighting is not a "black" sport. There are many whites who engage in it as well. I don't know if any of you got to see the HBO Real Sports that had a segment on this, but it is just sickening... and most of those shown were white.

    The analogy to UFC fighters is also a poor one. The fighters are not "trained" (through various abuses) to kill each other, and the losing fighter does not get taken out to a field and get shot, or electrocuted, or drowned.

    Vick was not unaware that this sport was illegal. The promoters of these events go to great length to keep them quiet so the police don't find out. He lied about his involvement to the owner of the Falcons and the commissioner of the league.

    As far as saying that he still has a right to make a living, you are absolutely correct. But playing in the NFL is not a right. Just like if I worked for AT&T and got charged with a felony and lied to my boss about it, he has the right to fire me if he chooses. I can go get a job doing something else, but I'm not guaranteed to get back the same job I had before. If Goodall decides to ban Vick, it will not just because he "killed a few dogs". There is the gambling, dog fighting, and lying about it right to the commish's face.

    As for the hunting comparisons...there might be something to that in the sense that both kill animals. That is it though. One is legal, one is not. Arguing that Alcohol and cigarettes are illegal is not a good defense for getting busted with pot, cocaine, etc. You know it is illegal and you take that risk if you do them. You don't get to cry about it if you get caught and blame someone else for your actions.
    i love it. All that and the only justification you can come up with is one is legal and the other is illegal. That is my ing point about asserting one cultures values onto anothers. Its a disgusting cultural hypocrisy as we wear our perfumes that have a trail of maimed rabbits in their wake, grab our winchester so we can go find some 12 point to kill and throw baby cows in boxes for months unable to move so we can get that meat oh so tender.

    We those animals up for nothing better than something to hang on our wall, a pretty smell and a scrumdiddlyumptious bite to eat. But hey if people in the south want to do something cruel to dogs no way because we grew up on Lassi and Old Yeller?

    I have an idea lets take a cattle prod to a baby cow to scare the out of it and then chase it down and tie it up or better yet lets put a strap on a horse or bull that causes it to have a convulsive reflex for a minute or so and see if we can hang onto it in front of a whole bunch of people. YEEHAW!!!

    People go hunting for deer antlers all the time. I mean if you were to ask me whether i would prefer to be hunted down killed and scalped or be forced into gladiatorial combat I would choose the fighting chance.

    This is before you talk about all the animals we kill in the hundreds of thousands daily so we can eat meat. At least we can actually excuse that with a need for survivability.

    I mean if you really think that dogfighting is bad and needs to be stopped i think you really should stop and look in the mirror at what you by proxy allow each and every day. If you can do that and actually try to live by that then i have the utmost respect for you. That truly is noble.

    OTOH if you cannot then you are nothing but a hypocrite that is no better than Michael Vick.

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    What's sickening is not speaking to a fellow human b/c his opinions differ from yours.... Oh I forgot, he's a human not a dog.

    This isn't just a "difference of opinion" it is a measure of a person's character and moral compass. The capacity for such cruelty is telling and one that condones it is s . But that is "just my opinion"

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    Im shocked at how many people think its ok to fight dogs, and if they lose, to hang or drown them.


    You people need some goddamn self examinations.

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    This isn't just a "difference of opinion" it is a measure of a person's character and moral compass. The capacity for such cruelty is telling and one that condones it is s . But that is "just my opinion
    perfectly said.

    THats not an opinion, thats a fact.

    Anyone that condones such cruelty, hatefull, evil acts, is themselves equally as evil.

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    Call me what you want, but I run over at LEAST 3-4 dogs or cats per month. If they run out in front of me, I don't swerve at all... They are roadkill.

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    This isn't just a "difference of opinion" it is a measure of a person's character and moral compass. The capacity for such cruelty is telling and one that condones it is s . But that is "just my opinion"
    Okay you win, I'm s b/c i don't give a if Michael Vick killed 1,999 dogs by himself w/ his bare hands. BTW, this s 's moral compass is pointing at deez nuts beyatch!

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    This isn't just a "difference of opinion" it is a measure of a person's character and moral compass. The capacity for such cruelty is telling and one that condones it is s . But that is "just my opinion"
    You loathe rodeos, have a problem with hunting, feel that all nonmedical animal testing should be stopped, feel that the veal trade needs to be stopped, feel that the fur trade needst o be stopped, and see the necessity of banning dog racing?

    If you disagree with any of that methinks your a hypocrite.

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    Im shocked at how many people think its ok to fight dogs, and if they lose, to hang or drown them.


    You people need some goddamn self examinations.
    You realize that when ranchers do that with their herds which is quite common they call it culling. They are animals not people and we are mean as to animals as a matter of course. You ever been to a slaughter house?

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    You realize that when ranchers do that with their herds which is quite common they call it culling. They are animals not people and we are mean as to animals as a matter of course. You ever been to a slaughter house?
    Ranchers throw cows into a pit and bet on them to thin their stock? Someone that has a legitimate business has quick, efficient and clean methods of killing animals. That Michael Vick found several different and excessively brutal ways of killing his dogs indicates a level of insanity that is only eclipsed by those that attempt to draw any kind of parallel to the standard practices of the food industry.

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    Im shocked at how many people think its ok to fight dogs, and if they lose, to hang or drown them.


    You people need some goddamn self examinations.
    i dont remember anyone condoning dog fighting... all we want to do is get you to open your mind and use it for once instead of acting like all the other sheep in the herd.

    i am AGAINST dog fighting, but to me it's one thing to say this or that is allowed while totally going against what is outlawed for your own merit. it's all fine and dandy when you wanna go out to the zoo and watch the animals as they are in their natural environments.....or better yet watch these abused animals live a ty life behind bars for your amusement. it's all good when you wanna see a few horses race but when it comes time to shoot the one with the broken leg you want no part of it. it's all good to go out to hunting ranges so you can get your next trophy kill but when it comes down to man's best friend you best believe you gonna be all over it with your tshirts and protest signs. get over yourselves and take some damn anthro classes!

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    Ranchers throw cows into a pit and bet on them to thin their stock? Someone that has a legitimate business has quick, efficient and clean methods of killing animals. That Michael Vick found several different and excessively brutal ways of killing his dogs indicates a level of insanity that is only eclipsed by those that attempt to draw any kind of parallel to the standard practices of the food industry.
    so killing isnt killing right? i dont get it?

    so if i go and kill my neighbor humanely then it's all good? quick shot to the head right?

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    To me, a year to 18 months in jail is way too severe for this crime. Imo, he should get at most six months in jail, a huge fine, and a load of community service.

    But he probably would have received leniency if he just came clean so this is all him.

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    Let's drown Vick.

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