Nobody seems to give a in the baseball forum

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

And I love baseball... I fail to see what it has to do with the discussion.

[thispego]

cheech marin is not in a gang. but he was born in east la

[Kori Ellis]

New Era has been making these types of hats for years, why make a fuss about it now? Honestly it isn't even that big of an issue. Its the equivalent of arguing about blue and red rags being sold still.

They have been selling white caps with the bandana image on them for years? I thought they came out last year.

[thispego]

So Joseph Abbot, who makes high end suits, and the inside of the suits have the color red with paisleys, are designing suits for the high end cripp or blood?

does joseph abbot specifically make high end suits for "urban youth culture"?

[T Park]

im shocked no one made a stink on that poster.

"The wrong side of the line"

WTF??

[thispego]

I finally got to see a picture of those caps.

Flat out targeting gangstas.

Thank you SB, you are wise

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Fillmoe's got a point. I haven't seen it anywhere, but I wonder how long the caps were out before people became upset.

[CuckingFunt]

They probably don't hang in downtown L.A. - they are in South Central.

And Pasadena. And Altadena. And Torrance. And Duarte. And... pretty much everywhere.

[ChumpDumper]

Stupid design.

[T Park]

does joseph abbot specifically make high end suits for "urban youth culture"?

nope

New Era makes caps for people who root for the teams

gangs take them and adopt them.

See my point now?

[thispego]

New Era has been making these types of hats for years, why make a fuss about it now? Honestly it isn't even that big of an issue. Its the equivalent of arguing about blue and red rags being sold still.

blue and red dew rags will never stop being sold, nor should they. New Era took these symbols and used them just and blood and crip gang memebrs used them.

[timvp]

This has been gong on for years. Seriously, this is nothing new. Companies have been "urban targeting" for like two decades now.

The first controversy I heard was when the Colorado Rockies came out with their logo. It was a blatant crips tie-in.



Reebok has pioneered the practice in sports gear. I've read articles about it in the past. While yes, this one was more blatant than most, it's a common practice.

[T Park]

Theres gangsters that wear just a regular Yankees hat.

Theres punks that wear just a regular Cardinals or Reds hat.

Should New Era stop making those hats?

[thispego]

And I love baseball... I fail to see what it has to do with the discussion.

well i originally posted it in the baseball forum because it was baseball related... now that the Yankees are off the hook it's strictly New Era who ed up

[T Park]

The first controversy I heard was when the Colorado Rockies came out with their logo. It was a blatant crips tie-in

Here I was stupid to think it was the C for Colorado, and the R for Rockies.

[thispego]

nope

New Era makes caps for people who root for the teams

gangs take them and adopt them.

See my point now?

i've always seen your point and i think you get mine, you just want to stick to your original position, and that's cool, but surely you see what is wrong with these caps.. SURELY?

[Kori Ellis]

nope

New Era makes caps for people who root for the teams

gangs take them and adopt them.

See my point now?

Nope.

New Era makes caps for people who root for the teams.

But New Era specifically made these caps for gang members who root for the teams.

See the point now?

[timvp]

Here I was stupid to think it was the C for Colorado, and the R for Rockies.

Are you also well versed in crips graffiti symbols that predated the existence of the Rockies?

[T Park]

but surely you see what is wrong with these caps.. SURELY?

I can see how it can be misconstrued as such yeah.

You interpret it as a totally gangster evil hat.

I look at it as an ugly yankees hat.

[thispego]

This has been gong on for years. Seriously, this is nothing new. Companies have been "urban targeting" for like two decades now.

The first controversy I heard was when the Colorado Rockies came out with their logo. It was a blatant crips tie-in.



Reebok has pioneered the practice in sports gear. I've read articles about it in the past. While yes, this one was more blatant than most, it's a common practice.

yeah, i remember the colorado rockies and oakland raiders caps being adopted by certain gangs... it's a chicken and egg thing, i'm not entirely sure what came first

[T Park]

Are you also well versed in crips graffiti symbols that predated the existence of the Rockies?

Now they are copying old NHL Logos?

The bas s....

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

nope

New Era makes caps for people who root for the teams

gangs take them and adopt them.

See my point now?

Ehhh...I have to disagree on that end.

These fashion caps are being marketed and designed for a youth culture.

Baseball guys like you and me aren't buying these caps.

[T Park]

But New Era specifically made these caps for gang members who root for the teams.

See the point now?

I've seen the point.

I just find it hard to believe.

[thispego]

I look at it as an ugly yankees hat.

but it's so much more than that

[Kori Ellis]

And Pasadena. And Altadena. And Torrance. And Duarte. And... pretty much everywhere.

Yeah I was just making the point that if TSA was on the lookout for high gang activity, it's not on the regular streets of downtown - that's mostly bums But Crips & Bloods can be found easily in L.A. Go stand on the corner of MLK and Crenshaw.