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    Get Refuel! FromWayDowntown's Avatar
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    Curiously, I think that's realistic.

    Even stockton in his prime playing 48mpg could not do that in SA, we know it, voters should know it to
    That's absurd. Voters never give sway to players because their teams play slow-down styles or because a point guard is not a true distributor in the scheme. I'd argue, though, that if Stockton in his prime was playing in San Antonio, the system would be tweaked to exploit his playmaking and distribution abilities and he'd easily be a 10+ apg guy. Pop won't alter the offense to make his point guard a true distributor because he knows that: (1) Parker is at his best when he's attacking and scoring; and (2) trying to force Parker into being a distributor would be counter-productive.

    There's a huge difference between being a 19yo unknown european pg and a final's MVP
    Parker hasn't been a 19 year-old unknown European point guard for at least 5 years. Being a Finals MVP is nice, but that doesn't automatically make one a candidate to win the next year's MVP award. Ask Cedric Maxwell about that sometime.

    Or being considered the most valuable regular season player of the best team while TD is coasting a little bit
    Tony was that in 2005-06, and it got him to 1% of the MVP vote that season. Plus, I suspect that the Spurs won't be the best team in the 2007-08 regular season.

    Absolutely, then best scorer in 2009 and MVP in 2010. It's all in the plan.
    I'll reserve judgment about being MVP in 2010, but I have very little doubt that Parker WILL NOT be the league's best scorer in 2009.

    Let's make another All-Star team and strive to be Third Team All-NBA for now.

    And no, I'm no Parker's church devot. I don't really like his personality and I think he's been very lucky to play for the best pro sports franchise with the best player in the game and a great coach.
    But he has 'it'. The thing Presti saw first. The thing we all saw in his eyes after that 3pt shot in the third quarter of final's game 4.
    Parker is undoubtedly a compe or and has become a much better player because he's been willing to learn the game from those around him while working his ass off to improve things that need improvement. With that said, having that sort of "it" does not make one a true MVP candidate. Parker's reputation has been enhanced because he had a wonderful playoff run in 2007 and was the most proficient scorer on the floor during the Finals. That said, the Spurs don't win that championship without Duncan and for as long as Duncan is in San Antonio, Parker won't be seen as the team's leader or the person most responsible for its success. Until he's either of those things, he's not a top 3 MVP candidate, IMO.

    He won't be either of those things until Tim Duncan is done, and once Duncan is done, this era of such fabulous success will come to a screeching halt.

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    Parker will never be the leagues top scorer. There are far to many guys in the league with much worse teams that can take way more shots than Tony will ever be able to. And even if he could shoot as much as he wanted, I still dont think he would ever be able to score more than the excellent scorers we have in the league right now

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    who has won the award last leading the league with most points scored?


    I doubt tp wins it but he does not have to lead the league in scoring to do so

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    has there every been a team in the nba that has 2 mvp candiates on the same team?

    Kobe & Shaq, Amare & Nash, Snaq and Wade recently. As fas as ever, that list is endless.

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    amare was not
    shaq was not

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    amare was not
    shaq was not
    yes they were. Your man crush for TP is weird. just did a quick search. Here's a link with several players from the same team getting MVP votes.

    http://www.nba.com/news/nash_mvp_050508.html

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    Top 25 i would guess

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    I really agree with FWD when he says that another all star and a 3rd all NBA woul be already nice.
    What I would like to see about Tony is some of the defense he gaves us in the last playoff all the time. He's a really good scorer now, he progresses every year in managing his energy to keep focus late in the game and s less plays being blind. So some more effort and good D all season could be rewarded with an all NBA team. And honestly making it with the team the spurs have right now is awesome.

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    Hmm, I think you may be forgetting one.
    Timmy Dunkar in 2003.

    Including Karl Malones joke selection over MJ in 1996-7, the past 11 years have been 3-8 for MVP being on Champ team.

    Tony, we don't care if you get it.
    Go for that 4 ring in 6 years.

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    Just think of this way for Tony to be a top 3 mvp candidate if you could choose any top 3 players in the NBA right now to start a franchise would Tony be one of them?

    He is getting better but He wasn't even the MVP in the entire Playoffs Duncan was. Tony was the MVp for 4 games against the worst compe ion the Spurs played in the entire playoffs.

    He is a star on on the Spurs while Duncan is a superstar!
    So, you're saying you would choose Nash as a top 3 player to build a franchise with If you don't think he'll be MVP material, that's your opinion, but that argument about inferior comp. is whack. I guess Shaq shouldn't have gotten it when they swept NJ????

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    So, you're saying you would choose Nash as a top 3 player to build a franchise with If you don't think he'll be MVP material, that's your opinion, but that argument about inferior comp. is whack. I guess Shaq shouldn't have gotten it when they swept NJ????
    I don't think the inferiority of the compe ion means that the best player on the winning team shouldn't be MVP. I think, though, the argument that Tony Parker faced lesser compe ion in the Finals than Tim Duncan did is probably correct. And it stands to reason that Parker would look really good against inferior compe ion while Duncan would struggle a bit as the Cavs focused their defense on him. But I also think its absolutely correct that Duncan was the Spurs' playoff MVP for 2007, even if Parker won the Finals MVP trophy.

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    I don't think the inferiority of the compe ion means that the best player on the winning team shouldn't be MVP. I think, though, the argument that Tony Parker faced lesser compe ion in the Finals than Tim Duncan did is probably correct. And it stands to reason that Parker would look really good against inferior compe ion while Duncan would struggle a bit as the Cavs focused their defense on him. But I also think its absolutely correct that Duncan was the Spurs' playoff MVP for 2007, even if Parker won the Finals MVP trophy.
    I got one word for you, GINOBILLI!!!!!!!

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    Brandon Roy will win MVP.

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    So Tony, what will you do if you win that MVP? Jump off a boat you say!!!


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    yes they were. Your man crush for TP is weird. just did a quick search. Here's a link with several players from the same team getting MVP votes.

    http://www.nba.com/news/nash_mvp_050508.html
    dude I do not even think tp has a chance
    I am trying to point out not very many top mvp candiates play on the same team


    you are proving that can happen

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    Brandon Roy will win MVP.
    maybe mip

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    dude I do not even think tp has a chance
    I am trying to point out not very many top mvp candiates play on the same team


    you are proving that can happen
    you asked if there has "ever" been two mvp candidates on one team. I answered all the time and gave you recent examples. You then began to argue that my recent examples were wrong. I then provided proof.

    Stop trying to hype up TP to more than he already is. It's gay at best.

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    Nash-3.8 turnovers a game
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    Stupid Texas idiots. Are you ALL this stupid?

    Probably.

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    If Chauncy Billups can get mentioned in MVP talk, Parker can as well. That being said I dont see him finishing top 3 mainly due to Pops way of pacing his players during the season along with competing with guys like Nash,Dirk,Kobe,Bron etc etc. I can easily see Parker really blowing up as a complete player this season nonetheless.

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    Stupid Texas idiots. Are you ALL this stupid?

    Probably.
    You say he turns the ball over to much, I say he turns it over way less than the former MVP, and Im the idiot.

    Another stupid Suns fan

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    MVP. save Tony for playoffs. its all about rings.


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    talk about jumping the gun. I'm sorry, I love Tony but if you think he's already good enough to beat Nash, Nowitsky or Tim you're delusional beyond your wildest dreams. As long as Tim is the backbone of this team (and he still is) its crazy to think Tony will win the MVP.

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    Oh, man, that is a funny-azz picture. How have I not seen this before?

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    Tony has gotten better every year but he still needs work on ball distribution. He needs to raise by half again the number of his assists. Then, (with his 20+) he'd be a contender. Until then it's just a wishbone.

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    Tony MVP ?

    Nope

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