That's the beauty of it, the Spurs don't have to put up with his Drama. If he starts any BS obout PT or off court stuff Pop can say bye bye. What would they be him signing for. Malone isn't stupid enough to start . He won't want to mess up his last shot at a le. What would be more interesting is how the media would try and start stuff where there isn't. Sorry to sound like a broken record.The problem I have is the Drama that this b1tch is going to bring to the Spurs.
Willie Anderson neglected child support, Rod Strickland liked to run around hotels in a towel then dropped said towel, Sean Elliott cheated on his first wife and The Iceman burned himself free-basing. The Spurs have had their share of bad behavior.Sure, Malone's personal life leaves something to be desired. Certainly in the history of the San Antonio Spurs have they never had any significant players of ill repute. Never.
Whatever Mikey. You can't say that a person is disloyal for sticking to their moral ground.
Im not saying don't stick to your morals. Don't root for Karl Malone I don't plan to. But don't Duncan, Parker etc. deserve our support?
lol, yeah I did forget you saying that timvp
And I dont wish you gone exstatic, by any means.
I don't care if Karl Malone comes here. I'm not arguing for me. I'm saying that YOU can't judge people as disloyal for making a choice not to root for a team for having a player on it that doesn't represent something they like. YOU have no place to judge them as disloyal. That's all I'm saying.
I don't either.And I dont wish you gone exstatic, by any means
point taken. being judgemental was not my intention. my point was that team loyalty should be paramount. I guess I did not express that point properly.I don't care if Karl Malone comes here. I'm not arguing for me. I'm saying that YOU can't judge people as disloyal for making a choice not to root for a team for having a player on it that doesn't represent something they like. YOU have no place to judge them as disloyal. That's all I'm saying.
actually that was before his first wife, that he had the kid out of wedlock.Sean Elliott cheated on his first wife
HIs First wife, Akiko, left him while he was recovering from surgery, from the kidney operation, left with a male stripper to Miami I think.
I remember this like it was yesterday cause Jay Howard was telling it, and Jay Howard and Sean Elliott were, and still may be tight.
"She left him saying something like, I cant live in SA, a woman like me deserves to be in Miami" something like that.
BTW, said that to him in the hospital, nice lady that Akiko.
I had friends that worked at Rennert World Travel. They used to handle the teams travel before they used their own plane. They all said she was sweet and had less than favorable things to say about Sean. Sad, really.
When did this turn into The National Equirer? I heard David Robinson stepped on his dogs paw accidentally.
Once again, the team, and the players, are still good.
Dale Ellis was a total pile of trash before coming to the Spurs, did anyone drop off the wagon when he came?? nooooo
Dennis Rodman, what more do I need to say about that nutjob, no one jumped off, more people jumped ON.
This organization doesnt make many wrong personal moves.
The bad moves the Pop era has made, I could prob count on my hand.
Carl herrera, Samaki Walker, Jaren Jackson's resigning, not resigning Stephen Jackson
If Drama Queen comes, I'm out. Simple as that. I don't watch WWF wrestling and that is, sadly, what the Spurs will become.
Watch.
but was it an accident?!?!? Enquiring minds want to know!
Mikey,
lol, ive heard different, the truth obviously lies somewhere in the middle.
[QUOTE]I'm out[QUOTE]
Thats too bad.
Well miss you at the games, foolish IMO, but, whatever.
I still say Malone is not needed. Let him go to Miami and mess that team up.
that. You Spurs fans in SA have it easy. You know how hard it is to be a Spurs fan on the arch enemy's turf? I'm sure you don't have people trying to start fights or have 100 people in a bar all talking to you and booing you. Don't say a ing thing about my loyalty, because I rep in LA win or lose. I sported Spurs gear just as strong after the 2001 sweep as I did after the 2003 le.
I'm not gonna ing rep Karl Malone. him, his cheap shot tactics, his flopping, his drama queen at ude, his constant whining to the press (whether it's about Kobe, taking less in LA, how $18 million wasn't enough in Utah, how he doesn't get the same respect as Jordan, or whatever), his disappearing act late in important games, his wanna-be movie career, his child-raping past, his deadbeat-dad act, Rogaine and LA Gear and anything else he's ever endorsed, and any team that ever has him - be it the Lakers, Heat, TWolves, or Spurs.
If Spurs fans could cheer on a team with Dennis Rodman, a player who did indeed cause problems for the team, then I can't see the angst about Malone. But hey, it's still just entertainment.
I notice that many of the guys that are going to shelve their fandom are also many of the ones who want AJ's jersey retired.
The irony...live by the Pop die by the Pop I suppose.
But let's realize what ever tradition of high character and class that the Spurs have, begins and ends with David Robinson.
Not Pop. At last Pop is finally going to suceed in pulling off one of his s bag manuevers and he will no longer get the character benefit he's mooched off of Drob.
Pop has tried to aquire: wife beaters(Kidd), potsmoking malcontent crackpots(Sheed), coach strangling idiots(Spree), other types of idiots(Webber)....on top of that he tried to screw David Robinson...and now Karl Malone.
Oh yeah...he's pursued accused rapists as well(Kobe). Pop isn't classy. He's just like every other coach in the NBA...the exceptional class and high character came from David Robinson.
I was dead set against Malone, but never to the point that I was going to quit being a Spurfan...the only thing that would have made me stop being a SpurFan was if he had suceeded in screwing Drob. Then I would have gone to what ever team Drob went too. Screwing Drob like he tried to do was just wrong.
So I'm philosophical about it...if I can live with AJ's jersey being retired and Kidd being signed, if I can live with Pop being a dumbass about using offensive players, such a dumbass that he hurts our le chances(and no not just this season)...etc...I can live with Malone. Malone IMO, is not as bad a guy as Kidd or Sheed etc...
Besides...Malone may have a role to play if we meet Houston in the playoffs..I just want to see him give Juwan one of those eyesocket fracturing elbows. Juwan's got it coming.
But make no mistake about it...Malone will change the chemistry of this team, everyone that calls him a choker is absolutely right, he is a choker, he is a drama queen.
And people, he is old and broken down. I doubt he is going to have the impact many think...that's part of the reason I am not as against signing him as I was originally...
I finally realized, regardless of what those I was arguing with think...he's not going to get heavy minutes. He has the potential to hurt this team if he starts, not on the deep bench...and I expect he will wind up on the deep bench. He's 41 about to be 42, he's coming of a knee inury...he's broken down, he's old, he's beat up....If I thought he'd get substantial minutes I'd still be really against signing him.
There are some benefits...Pop has lucked out of some really stupid manuevers...Kidd...Webber...etc...IMO, his luck will finally run out if he gets Malone, and people will realize that he can be a total dumbass...this is not to say I want him to leave the franchise, because I don't...but he needs to be questioned and not put up on a pedestal, because he's attemped to do some dumb freaking things and maybe he won't be so full of himself if he makes a dubmass moves and gets caught on it. And maybe he won't have so many Nazis...
But anyone that thinks Malone is going to be some kind of winner...they're just wrong...he has slight value as a thug, the humorous value of watching him break down on the Spurs, and nutride a ring, and make Pop look like a dumbass...but he's not gonna make any difference in if we win a le...if anything he'll make it harder to achieve if he's getting big minutes. But that shouldn't be a problem because he's done, even if Pop tries to give him minutes he will break down again.
I just hope he's got one elbow left in him for Juwan.
Last edited by whottt; 12-14-2004 at 03:02 AM.
I didn't see mikeyp's comment about "loyalty." Gotta disagree with that. Complaining about a team's actual and/or prospective personnel moves does not make one 'disloyal.'
The same could have been said about Jerome Kersey and Danny Ferry.But anyone that thinks Malone is going to be some kind of winner...they're just wrong...he has slight value as a thug, the humorous value of watching him break down on the Spurs, and nutride a ring, and make Pop look like a dumbass...but he's not gonna make any difference in if we win a le...if anything he'll make it harder to achieve if he's getting big minutes. But that shouldn't be a problem because he's done, even if Pop tries to give him minutes he will break down again.
You must have missed the 01 WCF...In any case, Danny was never on teams as good as the teams Malone choked on, he was never the Superstar choking Malone has been.......and Kersey did choke often on good teams until he became bench scrub for the Spurs...
Was he not on the 03 team? Good night.
Yeah and I give him credit for it...game 2 Pho in 03 where he pulled down 10 boards with no Willis or Drob was a huge game for us...and may have been a pivotal point of that season...But that was the only game he played...and Ferry still couldn't buy a freaking shot in that game.
And I need to point this out again...Ferry never played on teams that were as talented as the teams Malone has choked on...It's not like Ferry blew a ton of opportunities...the 01 WCF was his best, he sucked, but he was also injured IIRC...
It's not the same thing...Ferry didn't have the losers aura Malone has. Ferry and Kersey didn't play for a 3 time defending champ with three other HOF'ers on it, and still fail to win...
Bad comparison.
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