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Damn we're scared of Houston now, aren't we?
No.
Yes.
Absolutelly, if you don't like it leave him in Europe or send him to NYC, but never to Houston.
Damn we're scared of Houston now, aren't we?
There are always going to be doubters and naysayers when it comes to a players ability. That's how Micheal Jordan ends up being not being the first pick in the draft. I like to form my own opinion on things by what i witness and during this tournament i've seen Scola dealing with everything thrown at him. I've also noticed something else in my five days of posting. You are the most argumentative poster on Spurstalk EVER.
You don't understand at all.
Spanoulis much better player than Rafer Alston. Jeff Van Gundy hate Euro players (as in anyone that plays in Europe he don't even care where player is from like Argentina), one of main reasons he fired because he benched Spanoulis and made him want to go back to Greece.
Yao Ming sais this in interview in China that Rockets GM tell him they fire Van Gundy because he makes 3rd best player on team (Spanoulis) ride bench for Alston and makes Wells leave team and plays Head over him all year. Rockets GM describe Alston as "pure garbage" according to Yao.
Rick Adelman already tell Spanoulis he would play big minutes and "No logical reason I could think of why Jeff didn't start you."
Jeff Van Gundy no longer coach of Rockets. Rick Adelman now coach.
Rick Adelman would have plays Spanoulis.
Rick Adelman will plays Scola A LOT.
Jeff Van Gundy would have benched Scola too and want Chuck Hayes play more and more, this what Van Gundy does.
He even supposedly call up Nets and ask them to bench Nachbar because it making him "look bad." This because when he trade Nachbar he make comment, "There's only one player that ever played in Europe that's worth a damn and that's Dirk. Boki will never be NBA worthy, he will have his ass back in Europe because he stinks."
Reporter asks him what about Peja, Manu, Parker?
Van Gundy says, "Dirk is the only one I would ever have on my team, the rest would all ride the pine, they do not understand the game."
He then says, "Dirk is best player in NBA by far."
You actually use Spanoulis as example when he plays for coach like this?
Adelman NEVER act like van Gundy, Spanoulis would have played, Scola WILL play.
You can't use logics like "but how many PT did Spanoulis get"?
Because that's under coach that infamous for hatred of foreign players other than Yao and Dirk.
Peja (Spanoulis long time friend in Greece) even call Spanoulis and tell him Adelman say he would have started.
There ZERO ZERO ZERO chance Adelman treats this player like Van Gundy would have, so your argument is totally wrong.
Billy even tell me he get call from Marcus Camby who tells him "Van Gundy is the biggest fuc**** piece of sh** in the whole NBA. I hate him. He tried to screw me in New York just like he did to you in Houston."
Billy tell me Camby tell him he call any GM or coach in NBA and tell them Billy telling truth about Van Gundy, this what Van Gundy does.
Van Gundy not even think Camby should play and Knicks FORCE him too from what Camby tells Billy. Van Gundy get mad and quit.
Yao tells Billy Rockets GM told Yao he was to FORCE Van Gundy play Spanoulis next year, Van Gundy say no and he gets fired.
You actually think Adelman treat Scola like this? You actually think Scola not play either now that they fire Van Gundy because of this same craps like refusing to play players he not like personally?
No logic.
I've seen more. I have my doubts, but I have no doubt he is a better fit in an Adelman system than that of the Spurs.I like to form my own opinion on things by what i witness and during this tournament i've seen Scola dealing with everything thrown at him.That's just because whottt has been busy.I've also noticed something else in my five days of posting. You are the most argumentative poster on Spurstalk EVER.
In the end, it was apparent, that Scola was not going to fit into our system. Some of this was simply due to his style of play, and the other signficant factor being his aspirations. I believe Scola has a stronger desire to make a name for himself in this league, than winning a championship. Scola has already earned a gold medal with Fabs and Gino at his side. It's time to venture out on his own.
Save your biography for someone who cares. Spanoulis sucked in the NBA. He was expected to not suck. You can blame whomever you like, but it doesn't change the fact he sucked and didn't play up to his expectations. It happens.
Probably i mean i think the guy is going to be a good NBA player. One that could have helped them but will it be the difference between winning and not winning another le, i highly doubt it.
Jasikevicius and Macijauskas may consitute valid examples. Though with Macijauskas it was known to be a role player who could only succeed at a very specific role, and he was at odds with his coach. In the right environment, I think he could have done just fine. The others you list are a joke. Lampe still needs to prove he can play at any level. Rigaudeau's career was over by the time he got to the NBA. Wolkowyski and Sánchez were never stars at the FIBA level, Sánchez was even a sub much of the time in his Spanish club. Fotsis and Weis were FIBA stars?Good one. Paspalj I don't know how he fits here.
But I'll name you a few FIBA standouts who did OK: Okur. Manu. Nocioni. Gasol. Calderon. Garbajosa. Herrmann. Oberto. Peja.... blah, blah, blah.
So there are examples of players working out and others not working out. Thanks for agreeing with me.
You using very poor argument.
You don't seem to understand simple fact.
Jeff Van Gundy not play Spanoulis
Jeff van Gundy not play Scola.
Rick Adelman plays Spanoulis and Scola.
You acting like Jeff van Gundy still coach of Rockets. You simply lives in different reality on this issue.
I guess when talking about Spurs I should think of how they make coach decisions under Bob Hill?
That's a bold statement! Of course things may not work out. That's ALWAYS a possibility. For all we know, he could join a cult. But my point is, looking at the players with a similar background who made the transition, I like his chances.
My argument is Spanoulis did not play as well as he was expected to play in the NBA.
Period.
All you have is excuses WHY he didn't play as well he was expected to play.
Fine. I'm not sure, and the fact that no one has been bold enough to tell me what they think he will do in the NBA hasn't helped.
Yes, the spurs made a mistake. Can't wait until the first Scola-bowl vs. SA
Well, I'm not sure either. But if I had to venture a guess, I'd say that after some adjustment period, he'll do pretty well. Not All-Star or Manu like, and probably not Nocioni either, but he'll be a very solid role player for years to come. Plus, he's in the right environment, and with his bball IQ he'll figure out how to make the most of his teammates abilities, particularly Yao and T-Mac. I'm pretty optimistic about him.
Bold.
Not as much as your "he may or may not pan out" statement.
But I'll put some effort into it so that one day I may reach that level.
Any bold stat predictions?
wtf are u talking about? van gundy is not playing scola no matter what.
why you ask?
cuz he aint his coach.
simple as that.
There was a grand total of ONE (1) prediction from an Argentinian, and that guy is a piece of . He was pretty realistic about his rebounding though, predicting Scola would rebound at the same rate Devean George did this past season. Way to step up, Argies!
Last edited by ChumpDumper; 09-03-2007 at 08:29 PM. Reason: corrected stat
I say if he plays 28-33 minutes he can do:
12.5 points
7.2 rebounds
3.0 assists
1.3 steals
0.6 blocks
I picks 28-33 minutes because I thinks Rockets keep Chuck Hayes in backup role at 15-20 minutes for D and rebounding.
I mean look at Juwan Howard stats, you tell me Luis can not do those above stats in 28-33 minutes with Adelman offense if Juwan Howard gets 10/6 in 27 minutes in Van Gundy craps offense?
I think Spurs fans living in denial now. Grasping at straws like "well Spanoulis was coached by antichrist so he gets benched so why not this happen to Scola too even though it's a new coach and old coach gets fired for benching players hey still Rockets right? This must means Scola gets benched too right?"
Scola>>>>Oberto>>>>Manu
You people act like Scola wanted to sign here , when all I've heard was to the contrary....Scola didn't want to be here...as a matter of fact I remember hearing him say he would NEVER play for the Spurs....so f@ck him!
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