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    go look on smoking gun...
    All the "Jena" search term got was Al Unser Jr.'s domestic violence arrest.

    I'll ask again -- all this is do ented, right?

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    I guess he meant The Globe, no?

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    ..because the National Enquirer was never right...


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    So all these events are do ented, right?
    Those incidents have been on the record for months.

    The reason this case is a problem is not because some black kids should get away with beating up a white kid without punishment. They deserve punishment. The problem is that the narrative reveals a series of events where whites engaging in bad behavior (nooses, assaulting blacks, aiming firearms at blacks) either were not punished or had their punishments reduced, while blacks engaging in bad behavior got grossly trumped-up charges pressed against them. It's called differential prosecution on account of race, it was standard practice in the Deep South during the Jim Crow era, and apparently also in central Louisiana today. It is a federal crime under civil rights law, though a difficult one to prosecute.

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    Those incidents have been on the record for months.
    Then they'll be easy to link. I'm new to the story and just want to see independent confirmation.

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    I have another question. Aren't these public officials being discussed popularly elected in the parish?

    Couldn't they just be voted out of office by the 80+% black population?

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    I have another question. Aren't these public officials being discussed popularly elected in the parish?

    Couldn't they just be voted out of office by the 80+% black population?
    Apparently the road to change here in 2007 leads to media friendly protests and not the ballot box. I have the feeling that soon enough we will be seeing reports that African-American high school students in Jena have to sit in the back of the bus...

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    I'm not sure if this is a story of stupidity or gullibility. Perhaps both.

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    I have another question. Aren't these public officials being discussed popularly elected in the parish?

    Couldn't they just be voted out of office by the 80+% black population?

    Jena is 85% white. La Salle Parish which Jena is located in is 86% white.

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    Jena is 85% white. La Salle Parish which Jena is located in is 86% white.
    Sorry, I got the numbers transposed when I saw the graphic on TV. Thanks.

    If these patterns can indeed be proven, fine. I still don't get why the kid is still in jail.

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    If these patterns can indeed be proven, fine. I still don't get why the kid is still in jail.
    This is his 4th or 5th run in with the law, apparently.

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    Jesse and Al don't have $90K in their pockets, I guess.

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    Then, in December, a white student was beaten up by six black schoolmates outside the school gymnasium. The black students were charged with attempted murder.

    Eventually, those charges were reduced to offenses such as aggravated battery. In June, Bell was found guilty of second-degree battery charges.
    So is this still too harsh?

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    So is this still too harsh?

    Hey, it involves a noose.

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    The noose, synomous with racial vigilante "justice" in the South for almost a century, is now cited as the rationale for racial vigilante "justice" today.

    Since when does "they started it" become a proper defense for assault and battery?

    It's not hard in the South to find dumb whites who do stupid racially charged things. I'm not sure these random episodes are worthy of national attention today.
    This is like beating your head up against a wall. Nobody's trying to say that their actions were justified. What people are protesting is the differential prosecution on account of race and if you don't see that well it speaks volumes about you.
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    And this matters why?

    There are probably plenty of worthy causes, and people to take up for in this country. Taking up for 6 people (4 adults!) who beat the crap out of another is not one of those causes!
    Do you know what aggravated assault is? I think if those 6 boys really wanted to kill him or do him great bodily harm he would not be able to attend any function that night.

    This issue is so much bigger than those 6 boys. If differential prosecution on account of race can happen to them, then it can happen to anybody.
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    Do you know what aggravated assault is? I think if those 6 boys really wanted to kill him or do him great bodily harm he would not be able to attend any function that night.

    This issue is so much bigger than those 6 boys. If differential prosecution on account of race can happen to them, then it can happen to anybody.
    If assaulting someone can result in a criminal charge, don't do it.

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    If those six kids had been white they would had gotten a slap on the wrist and told "boys will be boys".

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    If those six kids had been white they would had gotten a slap on the wrist and told "boys will be boys".
    I doubt it. Especially if they beat up a black student. Even this school's administration couldnt have covered that up.

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    Do you know what aggravated assault is? I think if those 6 boys really wanted to kill him or do him great bodily harm he would not be able to attend any function that night.
    They beat him until he was unconscious then a bystander broke it up. I'm tired of the black "community" crying and rallying behind criminals.

    free mumia
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    ahhhh righteous movements
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    I think the major points that were not brought up are:

    1) The shotgun carried by the white was being used as self defense, yet he didn't shoot, and had it taken away from him anyway.

    2) The kid that was beaten was still beaten after he was unconscious. He could have been killed. That is why the stiffer charges were brought. If they stopped after he was down, things would be so much different.

    Now I assume there are still some pretty deep racial tension there, but when you hear all the facts, did the punishments match the crimes? As far as I know from everything I heard, they do.

    Provokative actions were taken by both sides. However, th first amendment protects such actions also.

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    I think the major points that were not brought up are:

    1) The shotgun carried by the white was being used as self defense, yet he didn't shoot, and had it taken away from him anyway.

    2) The kid that was beaten was still beaten after he was unconscious. He could have been killed. That is why the stiffer charges were brought. If they stopped after he was down, things would be so much different.

    Now I assume there are still some pretty deep racial tension there, but when you hear all the facts, did the punishments match the crimes? As far as I know from everything I heard, they do.

    Provokative actions were taken by both sides. However, th first amendment protects such actions also.
    1. Self defense against whom, any and all blacks he sees. Also I'll try to remember that you can only defend yourself once you've been shot at.

    2. Then tell me why the white kids who did the same to another white kid only got a misdemeanor assault charge, that person could have been killed.
    You are really coming off as somebody that supports differential prosecution on account of race.

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    I am quite sure we all have the full story on what occured in
    Jenna. I just know we have. The media, Jesse and the other
    groups would be sure to give us the un-slanted truth of the
    matter.

    On the surface it looks like the criminal justice system failed.
    It was a fist fight, unfair, but not unusual, I am sure worst
    happens here in SA on a weekly basis. There seems to be
    lots we don't know.

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    Do you know what aggravated assault is? I think if those 6 boys really wanted to kill him or do him great bodily harm he would not be able to attend any function that night.

    This issue is so much bigger than those 6 boys. If differential prosecution on account of race can happen to them, then it can happen to anybody.

    You can get aggravated assault for less than knocking somebody out, which is what happened here. The boys recovery time is irrelevant, IMO, although it sure seems to get people worked up.

    This thread is the first I have read of a similar cir stance being treated differently (ie. a group of white thugs beat up a black kid); it that happened, and those white boys weren't arrested, then they should have been. Doesn't mean the black thugs should be let off easy.

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    This thread is the first I have read of a similar cir stance being treated differently (ie. a group of white thugs beat up a black kid); it that happened, and those white boys weren't arrested, then they should have been. Doesn't mean the black thugs should be let off easy.
    nothing happens in a vacuum.

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