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Dude, you ing contradict yourself often.
I'm still waiting for you take on Capitalism.
New poster child, John Edwards.
He down talks the sub prime lenders, but has $16 million of his $31 million invested in Fortress Investment Group, which became a public traded company in February of this year. They paid Edwards $479,512 last year for consulting fees. Kind of hard for him to say he had no idea people would be hurt. I heard he was involved in another sub prime lender, but couldn’t remember enough details.
If he is really that stupid, he should never hold public office again.
links:
EDWARDS' FORTRESS INVESTMENT
Edwards to end investments with lenders
Fortress Investment Group
Last edited by Wild Cobra; 09-15-2007 at 05:22 AM.
Dude, you ing contradict yourself often.
I'm still waiting for you take on Capitalism.
"I'm still waiting for you take on Capitalism"
while waiting, go yourself
and dude, list the contradictions
Last edited by boutons_; 09-15-2007 at 09:24 PM.
Are you re ed or just playing dumb?
You bash capitalism in every one of your posts through hyperboles.
You even post:
And then you say:
Don't you see the contradiction, you moron?
Now answer the ing question:
What is you take on capitalism?
"The whole philosophy of capitalism is to screw the other guy more than he is screwing you."
statement of fact.
"Who said I was against capitalism?"
Where did I say I was against captilism? still waiting, and still you yourself.
So you support a system that is designed to screw you?
Your stupidity amazes me . . .
He is incapable of doing as you ask. It's only attack, attack, attack with him. A major reason I put him on ignore, as not to waste time with him.
Ignore is for pussies
Call me ignorant but wtf is a neocon?
I don't follow politics all THAT closely
Yes. Ridicule is much more enjoyable.
"support"
If one lives in USA, capitalism, good and bad, is inescapable. Observant people can see both, you right-wing dumb s have terminal myopia.
Last edited by boutons_; 09-17-2007 at 10:34 AM.
If you say so. In the case of those I placed on IGNORE, I just find nothing worth debating from them. If anything, blame me for the lack of self control I have in being bated by their flaming. I get into that mode myself, which I prefer not to.
Smeagol, you and I have serious disagreements. However, both of us generally do not stoop as low as the real flamers here do. Call it my way of helping myself from going into that flaming mode, which I prefer to avoid.
Do I taunt? Yes. Generally I just call things like I see the. If you notice, I have acknowledged being wrong at times. Have you seen those I placed on IGNORE ever admit such things? No, like I said, it's just ATTACK, ATTACK, ATTACK with them.
I don't know about you, but I don't need that. I can deal with terse conversation, and attacks on me at times, but not when that's all it is. When there is only destructive flames, with no constructive discourse. They are gone.
You should be happy to know that as long as you offer constructive discourse as you almost always do, you can flame me all you want, and I will not place you on IGNORE. I hope you don't take me up on that however.
Last edited by Wild Cobra; 09-17-2007 at 04:03 AM.
Damn, what a pussy.
Dude, your posts are starting to read more and more like a South Carolina Beauty contestant answer every day..........such as.
What does living in the US have to do with agreeing or not with capitalism as the best economic system to develop a country?
You have dodged the question five times already.
Pussy.
Here's Greespan's take on capitilism:
He continues, "On one side of the Iron Curtain were essentially centrally planned collectivist societies based on the principal that collective activity is what produces wealth and therefore there are no individual rights to property. On the other side were capitalist societies built around the market system, with free trade and individual-property rights. The classic case was East Germany versus West Germany, which were two economies coming from the same history, culture and language... The conventional wisdom was that East Germany's economy was three fourths the size of West Germany's, and that the Soviet Union, while having major shortfalls, was a formidable economic power. Then the Berlin Wall came down, and the economic ruin behind the Iron Curtain was utterly unexpected and unimaginable."
I'm indifferent. Whatever works, and each industrial country has different mix.
It's clear that corps have gamed and corrupted the system. "free market" and "compe ion" are untrue as often as true. They have also gamed democracy by buying politicians, disnenfranchising citizens, to obtain/kill legislation that protect the corps, their products, their practices, their profits, while unprotecting employees and the environment.
The Iraq war is oil corp wasting $1T of citizens' tax dollars and 100s of 1000s of lives to grab Iraq oil.
The way you criticize it, one would think you are not very fond of it.
But I will take your word for it.
Actually it is an argument for Liberals. If they don't agree
with you then your are a neocon. True definition changes
with the argument.
I hate the bad parts of capitalism and how capitalsim has been perverted.
Since we individuals have NO power to combat the evils of capitalism, it's the role of govt to regulate corps. The ONLY thing stopping the corps from ing us over more is govt.
This much, I agree with. Corporations should be outlawed from making political contributions. Lobbyist groups should be completely restricted to citizen concern.
Free market/Capitalism has been perverted. No one is elected to a federal position without money coming from some large corporation. Corporations do not have the interest of the people, therefore should have little representation with the People.
Ooops...my bad...there I go thinking this is a government of the people, by the people, for the people again. Silly me.
Sub prime credit problems are not the real issue but a symptom of the underlying issue. The issue is labor. A quick review of some of the economies worldwide effected currently by "the Sub-prime Crisis indicates two things:
#1. Developing economies such as China, India, Brazil, Mexico, and Russia have positive outlooks on their prospects and are not facing credit problems because their labor force is becoming more affluent due to outsourcing. They are becoming more wealthy. And they are putting their cash into savings and investments.
#2. Developed countries with high labor costs and availability to credit are becoming less affluent because corporate investment has focused on moving labor to foreign markets.
Sub-prime credit problems are the symptom not the cause which is: Corporations moving their operations into economies where they face drastically lower labor costs.
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